DVC ONLY resort

[Mike©]

Respectfully, I think your assumption is incorrect. I can sympathize with being shut out, but it is your fellow owners (who are willing and able to call day by day) who are booking up the time/unit type you want. AFAIK, Disney does not give CRO/WDWTC inventory for cash guests prior to the 11 month window.

I'm assuming that you were trying to get some type of "specialty" unit for a popular time and not calling day by day. Otherwise, it is difficult to believe that you were unable to book at the 11 month window. By "specialty" unit, I mean something like standard view or Boardwalk View at BWV or a 2 bedroom with 2 queens in the second bedroom at BCV or perhaps Christmas week at one of the smaller DVC resorts - VWL, BCV or BWV.

Sorry but you are the incorrect one here. We were willing to accept any room type ( studio, one bedrrom, 2 bedroom, prefered or standard view. ). Again, this was the morning of our 11 month window and again this has happened 3 times since we joined in 1999.

I'm sorry that this seems to be a hard to understand concept for folks. My point was not that complicated. Just a resort that can only be booked by DVC members only!!! No cash non-member "Home Away from Home" bookings.
Yes members can still book for friends and family! Only folks with NO AFFILIATION with DVC can not book!

 

[dianeschlicht]

Sorry but you are the incorrect one here. We were willing to accept any room type ( studio, one bedrrom, 2 bedroom, prefered or standard view. ). Again, this was the morning of our 11 month window and again this has happened 3 times since we joined in 1999.

I'm sorry that this seems to be a hard to understand concept for folks. My point was not that complicated. Just a resort that can only be booked by DVC members only!!! No cash non-member "Home Away from Home" bookings.
Yes members can still book for friends and family! Only folks with NO AFFILIATION with DVC can not book!

But that would still quell your ability to do trades too. That would make your membership lose the flexibility DVC is so famous for.

 

[TenThousandVolts]

On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead.

Assuming you home resort is BWV (from your signature) one thing is for certain- the Boardwalk view rooms are not cash guests- as they can only be booked on points- interesting, really. I think BWV is the only resort with a points only category (are there any others, experts?). So your home resort, at least, has a partial rule similar to your proposal. Of course, such a small number of rooms in that category doesn't help you much with booking- but it is interesting that DVC has seen that there is a reason to go down the 'points only' path- but only to a limited degree.

 

[Doctor P]

Sorry but you are the incorrect one here. We were willing to accept any room type ( studio, one bedrrom, 2 bedroom, prefered or standard view. ). Again, this was the morning of our 11 month window and again this has happened 3 times since we joined in 1999.

I'm sorry that this seems to be a hard to understand concept for folks. My point was not that complicated. Just a resort that can only be booked by DVC members only!!! No cash non-member "Home Away from Home" bookings.
Yes members can still book for friends and family! Only folks with NO AFFILIATION with DVC can not book!

I would like to know as many details as you can provide about being shut out. This is the first instance that I have EVER heard of someone getting shut out of their home resort right at the eleven month mark. What exactly were you trying to book? What is your home resort? For what time of year were you trying to book?

 

[dianeschlicht]

Sorry but you are the incorrect one here. We were willing to accept any room type ( studio, one bedrrom, 2 bedroom, prefered or standard view. ). Again, this was the morning of our 11 month window and again this has happened 3 times since we joined in 1999.

So, are you saying NO room was available when you called the first morning of your 11 month window??? I find that almost impossible to believe. MAYBE if you were saying you wanted standard or boardwalk only, but this post says ANYTHING, and that is what I find difficult to believe.

 

[Doctor P]

So, are you saying NO room was available when you called the first morning of your 11 month window??? I find that almost impossible to believe. MAYBE if you were saying you wanted standard or boardwalk only, but this post says ANYTHING, and that is what I find difficult to believe.

ONCE is difficult to believe. Three times is impossible to believe, IMHO, based on what the OP said they were willing to take.

 

[Mike©]

ONCE is difficult to believe. Three times is impossible to believe, IMHO, based on what the OP said they were willing to take.

Yes, I'm making this up JUST to get under your skin ( Geez ).
Your going to believe what you wish to believe ( this is very clear ).

I believe that all other legitimate questions have been addressed.

 

[Mike©]

So, are you saying NO room was available when you called the first morning of your 11 month window??? I find that almost impossible to believe. MAYBE if you were saying you wanted standard or boardwalk only, but this post says ANYTHING, and that is what I find difficult to believe.

Well all I can say is good luck with that problem.

 

[Doctor P]

Yes, I'm making this up JUST to get under your skin ( Geez ).
Your going to believe what you wish to believe ( this is very clear ).

I believe that all other legitimate questions have been addressed.

You didn't answer the question and we do all want to know. What resort, what time of year? What year? I am generally interested, not trying to give you a hassle. A resort being sold out like this three times at the 11 month mark is something that has not been previously reported. Is it possible that the reservations you were talking about were for the Xmas season in 1999, 2000, 2001, or 2002? The Special Seasons Preference list was in effect for all of those years I believe, and Boardwalk would have been sold out at the 11 month mark since those making reservations with the list were allowed to make them 13-14 months in advance. That list has subsequently been abolished. I am NOT giving you a hassle. What you are reporting IS impossible to believe based on what we as members have seen. That doesn't mean you are lying or mistaken--we just would like the details so that we can also have the information and become believers.

 

[kend58]

Yes, I'm making this up JUST to get under your skin ( Geez ).
Your going to believe what you wish to believe ( this is very clear ).

I believe that all other legitimate questions have been addressed.

I still consider my "How much in Purchase Price?" and "How much in MF?" would you value this feature at questions as unanswered!

Perhaps you think they are illegitimate?

I finally see some amount of benefit in your proposal i.e. an expanded guranteed booking advantage.

The economics based questions I would pose would be:

For an only for points (or for Cash with the DVC Members only resort owner on the reservation) resort on property at WDW how many people would value belonging? How much more in Point purchase price would they be willing to pay? MF? In order to belong to this Members Only resort rather than to a standard DVC resort.

 

[Doctor P]

 

[OneMoreTry]

Sorry but you are the incorrect one here. We were willing to accept any room type ( studio, one bedrrom, 2 bedroom, prefered or standard view. ). Again, this was the morning of our 11 month window and again this has happened 3 times since we joined in 1999.

I'm sorry that this seems to be a hard to understand concept for folks. My point was not that complicated. Just a resort that can only be booked by DVC members only!!! No cash non-member "Home Away from Home" bookings.
Yes members can still book for friends and family! Only folks with NO AFFILIATION with DVC can not book!

This is exactly the case at 11 months. At that time rooms "can only be booked by DVC members only!!! No cash non-member "Home Away from Home" bookings.
Yes members can still book for friends and family! Only folks with NO AFFILIATION with DVC can not book"

So a DVC members only resort would not have solved the problem you indicate in this scenario.

Although, I am like others here -- I have never heard of this before and have a hard time believing what you say.

 

[Mike©]

I still consider my "How much in Purchase Price?" and "How much in MF?" would you value this feature at questions as unanswered!

Perhaps you think they are illegitimate?

Sorry , but the question seemed to be a alltogether different issue with little to do with the poll. I do believe I qualified what I ment by DVC Only.

Y/N ?

 

[Mike©]

You didn't answer the question and we do all want to know. What resort, what time of year? What year? I am generally interested, not trying to give you a hassle. A resort being sold out like this three times at the 11 month mark is something that has not been previously reported. Is it possible that the reservations you were talking about were for the Xmas season in 1999, 2000, 2001, or 2002? The Special Seasons Preference list was in effect for all of those years I believe, and Boardwalk would have been sold out at the 11 month mark since those making reservations with the list were allowed to make them 13-14 months in advance. That list has subsequently been abolished. I am NOT giving you a hassle. What you are reporting IS impossible to believe based on what we as members have seen. That doesn't mean you are lying or mistaken--we just would like the details so that we can also have the information and become believers.

OK , a leap of faith here

Resort: BWV
Time of Year: May & Sept with date flexability for a 10 day booking.

I know one of the occasions was durring one of Disney's big golf outings.
Don't remember exact months or years, but all 3 times fell betwween 2002 and 2006.
Not sure how this info helps with the poll, but there it is!

 

[ClarabelleCow]

Mike - were you booking day by day, or did you call so that all days could be booked at once? What was the excuse the cm gave you that there were no rooms available???

 

[CarolMN]

May and September are among the easiest times to book BWV.

I cannot believe that anyone who calls when the 11 month window opens will be shut out of any DVC resort - especially for May or September. It's even more difficult to believe if the member is willing to take any BWV unit. That's a LOT of units to book up in a period of a week to 10 days. If it happens, it is very rare and only for very specific times of the year. It might have happened for the first week of December, 2007, but to the best of my knowledge it didn't happen for that week in past years. It could happen for New Year's eve. That's about it for booking up the entire resort in the first week or two of the 11 month window - of course, that is my opinion. You may have a different one.

Last month, I made a 6 night reservation for a standard view unit at the BWV for May 2008. I made only one call and the CM said there was still plenty of availability for both standard view and Boardwalk view.

That said, the OP is correct that we believe what we want to believe. Since I do not believe that he was really shut out at 11 months, for me the poll is moot.

 

[kend58]

Sorry , but the question seemed to be a alltogether different issue with little to do with the poll. I do believe I qualified what I ment by DVC Only.

Y/N ?

Y - I believe you made it clear that only members would be allowed to make reservations at such a resort which answered the original question I posted.

My subsequent questions seem pertinent to the discusion to me as I most sincerely doubt Disney would offer a Members Only style of resort without some financial incentive above standard DVC sales [after all they are giving up CRO booking rights at the resort under the scenario you pose] so I see the questions of what incremental costs, if any, you as the originator of the thread would be willing to have the members of such a resort bear as pertinent to the discusion.

The entire exercise is of course hypothetical and I respect your right to chose not to discuss economic parameters related to the proposal if you do not desire to entertain exploring the more pragmatic aspects of the proposal.

 

[Mike©]

Y - I believe you made it clear that only members would be allowed to make reservations at such a resort which answered the original question I posted.

My subsequent questions seem pertinent to the discusion to me as I most sincerely doubt Disney would offer a Members Only style of resort without some financial incentive above standard DVC sales [after all they are giving up CRO booking rights at the resort under the scenario you pose] so I see the questions of what incremental costs, if any, you as the originator of the thread would be willing to have the members of such a resort bear as pertinent to the discusion.

The entire exercise is of course hypothetical and I respect your right to chose not to discuss economic parameters related to the proposal if you do not desire to entertain exploring the more pragmaticl aspects of the proposal.

Your points make good sense. But I definitely did not want to start a feasibility study on if the concept was fiscally practical. I just wanted to see if there was any interest in the idea.

 

[Mike©]

May and September are among the easiest times to book BWV.

I cannot believe that anyone who calls when the 11 month window opens will be shut out of any DVC resort - especially for May or September. It's even more difficult to believe if the member is willing to take any BWV unit. That's a LOT of units to book up in a period of a week to 10 days. If it happens, it is very rare and only for very specific times of the year. It might have happened for the first week of December, 2007, but to the best of my knowledge it didn't happen for that week in past years. It could happen for New Year's eve. That's about it for booking up the entire resort in the first week or two of the 11 month window - of course, that is my opinion. You may have a different one.

Last month, I made a 6 night reservation for a standard view unit at the BWV for May 2008. I made only one call and the CM said there was still plenty of availability for both standard view and Boardwalk view.

That said, the OP is correct that we believe what we want to believe. Since I do not believe that he was really shut out at 11 months, for me the poll is moot.

Yes indeed Carol! May and Sept are typically EZ booking times. And as a rule we usually don't have any problems booking 10 days in the same room. ( We don't like resort hopping ). We also have the good fortune to be able to always book at our 11 month window.
We also thought this to be impossible according to DVC polocy. None the less, it happened to us. I would also suspect that if it has happened to us 3 times, it's a good likelyhood that it has or will happen to others.

 

[Mike©]

Mike - were you booking day by day, or did you call so that all days could be booked at once? What was the excuse the cm gave you that there were no rooms available???

As usual, we were attempting to book 10 days in one room 11 months out. MS as usual had no excuse as to why. On one of the occasions, we we're told that we were beaten out by other members in the hour and a half that MS was open that morning. LOL