DVC ONLY resort

[simzac]

Looking at the results right now, the OP is certainly not the only one who feels this way. I voted no by the way, just don't understand where a members only resort would benefit anyone. I don't know 99.9% of the members now, so I couldn't tell you who is a member and who isn't when I stay at a DVC resort.

 

[Fortywinks]

Be a nice option but....
If Disney could not broker any unused rooms then owners would then have to cover the difference. Hate to think what the initial points purchase would be and the annual MF would be. After all, Disney is in the business to make a profit and show a return for its stockholders. I do not think they would limit their options with that kind of investment. I voted no.

 

[crisi]

Why does the OP think what he thinks... or why does DP think what he thinks? or why are we debating this at all?

Why does the OP want this? What benefits are there to a "members only" resort.

Maybe my travel is different. I go to DVC and we check into our room. I seldom see the people staying in nearby rooms - we or they are off at the parks or in our rooms or in the pool - not hanging out. By the pool I might chat with someone, discover where they are from, and might find out they are a fellow DVC member....but generally we don't talk DVC and I really don't care (if I talk to anyone at all, I'm usually in a book and/or watching my kids). If they are a member we might chat about DVC, if not I have a pleasant conversation with a stranger about what they thought of Mission:Space or what their favorite thing in the MK was or how they enjoyed their character meal.

If you meet me by the pool and start talking about this board, I may not admit to being a member here. I did that when we cruised - talked to a couple DISers without ever mentioning I knew what they were talking about.

It makes no difference to me if the person in the room next to me or in the pool chair next to mine is a member, a cash guest, a renter, the parents of a member staying on their points. I don't care if they are black, white or green; Republican or Democrat; Christian, Jew or a believer in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just as long as they don't make too much noise when we are trying to sleep.

I don't buy into cash guests or renters treating the rooms worse than members, and any benefit that there MIGHT be there would be more than offset by the loss in breakage income.

 

[TenThousandVolts]

2: DVC, Family or Friends No " Home Away from Home cash bookings.

The problem is "friends"- as long as you allow friends, you are allowing renting. Meet a "friend" on the Internet, strike a deal...
I don't really see the point- I sure wouldn't want to own at a resort with this caveot (sp?)- I am not sure of all the ins and outs of the DVC system but I believe cash guests are an important cog in the machine.

 

[alldiz]

I think he means we all have to dress like this:

Kerri

 

[dianeschlicht]

Okay, so I voted BEFORE I understood what you meant. NO, I do not think a members only policy would work. I did vote yes though, because I thought you meant a stand alone DVC resort (like OKW and SSR). If you had a "members only" resort, there would be no exchanging, and that would take away all the flexibility of owning DVC. Come to think of it, I'm not sure I've heard of a memers only timeshare before in that context.

 

[OneMoreTry]

Are you thinking of something like "The Yellowstone Club?"

I get the idea that some DVC members are looking for a level of exclusivity above and beyond what the price of points can provide. I would love an exclusive resort without the riff-raff (which would include anyone who never reads this post -- plus Dr. P), but wouldn't be willing to shell out my whole retirement to buy in to Disney World. I mean it's nice there and all, but not enough for most to pay more than the 30 grand it currently takes to buy 300 points.

Plus, I probably am riff-raff.

Don't they have special floors in the current hotels with key-only access for people that want to get away from other people?

 

[CarolA]

Sounds a little like "don't let those folks in with us"

One of the attributes I find a little amazing amoung DVC owners is a sense of "superiority" (Here's a hint, the CM does not CARE how much you paid for DVC and NO buying DVC did not mean "I own part of this park". I have heard both of these statements when a guest wanted "special" treatment including the JERK who claimed that since he "owned" part of the park he could use the FP line without a FP!)

 

[DisDaydreamer]

Sounds a little like "don't let those folks in with us"

One of the attributes I find a little amazing amoung DVC owners is a sense of "superiority" (Here's a hint, the CM does not CARE how much you paid for DVC and NO buying DVC did not mean "I own part of this park". I have heard both of these statements when a guest wanted "special" treatment including the JERK who claimed that since he "owned" part of the park he could use the FP line without a FP!)

Well... I'm a shareholder, and I really should get to use the FP lane at my desire.

 

[OneMoreTry]

Well... I'm a shareholder, and I really should get to use the FP lane at my desire.

DIS has 1.98 billion shares. I own some, too, but probably not more than a few FP machines worth. I guess I'll claim the ones at Soarin' please.

 

[DisDaydreamer]

So many YES responses, but no explanations why (except Diane)

 

[mjy]

I think he means we all have to dress like this:

I will NOT wear ear rings!

 

[OneMoreTry]

So many YES responses, but no explanations why (except Diane)

I put yes because

1. It's the only way I can "legally" be sarcastic on this forum
2. Dr. P said it was a stupid idea
3. I have a bad cold and feel ornery
4. If I had money to throw away I would buy into such a resort if it were themed after Revolutionary France with barricades and all. With maybe Jean Val Jean character meet 'n' greets -- you know Fantine and Cosette and Javert.

 

[IndianaMouseLover]

Well, SSR and OKW do not share their facilities with Hotel guest, althought Disney books guests into these resorts.

I would have to totally disagree with you on this comment. I cannot remember where I read it within SSR but all resort guests can use things at SSR such as Community Hall and the Fitness Center as long as they present their room keys.

Maybe I am wrong.....but I don't think so...I tried to remember where I read this.

 

[Mike©]

To the OP:

What "greater purpose" would that serve above and beyond what OKW and SSR accomplish now? I guess I'm just confused as to "why" you feel there's a need for one............

The " Greater Purpose " is more of a booking issue. On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead. A DVC ONLY resort would only accept DVC bookings and no more that 11 months ahead ( for home resorters ) or 8 months for non- home resorters..

 

[kend58]

The " Greater Purpose " is more of a booking issue. On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead. A DVC ONLY resort would only accept DVC bookings and no more that 11 months ahead ( for home resorters ) or 8 months for non- home resorters..

I finally see some amount of benefit in your proposal i.e. an expanded guranteed booking advantage.

The economics based questions I would pose would be:

For an only for points (or for Cash with the DVC Members only resort owner on the reservation) resort on property at WDW how many people would value belonging? How much more in Point purchase price would they be willing to pay? MF? In order to belong to this Members Only resort rather than to a standard DVC resort.

 

[crisi]

The " Greater Purpose " is more of a booking issue. On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead. A DVC ONLY resort would only accept DVC bookings and no more that 11 months ahead ( for home resorters ) or 8 months for non- home resorters..

What proof do you have that these are cash reservations? I suspect that they are other members booking very popular times. I also suspect that some of this is speculative renting, but that means Disney would need to figure out enforcement for "my friend on the internet gave me money to stay at the resort" vs. "I booked a resort for my sister in law and her husband as an anniversary gift" - and I personally think that will be a nearly impossible thing for DVC to enforce.

 

[CarolMN]

The " Greater Purpose " is more of a booking issue. On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead. A DVC ONLY resort would only accept DVC bookings and no more that 11 months ahead ( for home resorters ) or 8 months for non- home resorters..

Respectfully, I think your assumption is incorrect. I can sympathize with being shut out, but it is your fellow owners (who are willing and able to call day by day) who are booking up the time/unit type you want. AFAIK, Disney does not give CRO/WDWTC inventory for cash guests prior to the 11 month window.

I'm assuming that you were trying to get some type of "specialty" unit for a popular time and not calling day by day. Otherwise, it is difficult to believe that you were unable to book at the 11 month window. By "specialty" unit, I mean something like standard view or Boardwalk View at BWV or a 2 bedroom with 2 queens in the second bedroom at BCV or perhaps Christmas week at one of the smaller DVC resorts - VWL, BCV or BWV.

 

[Doctor P]

Respectfully, I think your assumption is incorrect. I can sympathize with being shut out, but it is your fellow owners (who are willing and able to call day by day) who are booking up the time/unit type you want. AFAIK, Disney does not give CRO/WDWTC inventory for cash guests prior to the 11 month window.

I'm assuming that you were trying to get some type of "specialty" unit for a popular time and not calling day by day. Otherwise, it is difficult to believe that you were unable to book at the 11 month window. By "specialty" unit, I mean something like standard view or Boardwalk View at BWV or a 2 bedroom with 2 queens in the second bedroom at BCV or perhaps Christmas week at one of the smaller DVC resorts - VWL, BCV or BWV.

Or trying to book a stay all at once on the checkout day for the entire stay at a busy time of year.

 

[OneMoreTry]

The " Greater Purpose " is more of a booking issue. On three occations now the wife and I have tried to book a room at our home resort the morning of our 11 month window to be told that the resort is booked up. I have to assume that it had been booked up with cash non-DVC guests booking " Home Away from Home " accomodations a year ahead. A DVC ONLY resort would only accept DVC bookings and no more that 11 months ahead ( for home resorters ) or 8 months for non- home resorters..

I think your assumption has to be wrong. Only a small percentage of units can be booked with cash at that point. The vast majority ARE owned by DVC owners and Disney can't put cash guests in those rooms. If you have a beef it's with owners and what they're doing booking rooms that far in advance -- and I'm one of them. Personally, if I want a popular room at a popular time, I book 11 months day by day on the money. If I had to have a unit at a popular time and was not willing to book day by day at 11 months -- I would sell my DVC and find another option. Or learn to chill out and be willing to stay at SSR if my luck was off.

At this point I think you may want to transfer to one of the many "commercial use" threads and take your grievances there. That's more likely interfering with your 11-month reservations than cash customers.