DVC Occupancy Thread Part 2

[Andrew015]

If booking a 2-bedroom villa proves to be too cost-prohibitive, do not rule out the option of booking two studios. Depending on the resort and time of year, the point cost to book two separate studios shouldn't be much different than booking a 1-bedroom, and is usually significantly cheaper than booking a 2-bedroom villa.

You can request for the rooms to be very close to each other (although this is not guranteed).

 

[Deb & Bill]

If booking a 2-bedroom villa proves to be too cost-prohibitive, do not rule out the option of booking two studios. Depending on the resort and time of year, the point cost to book two separate studios shouldn't be much different than booking a 1-bedroom, and is usually significantly cheaper than booking a 2-bedroom villa.

You can request for the rooms to be very close to each other (although this is not guranteed).

But, unless one of the kids is 18 or older, Mom and Dad need to be in separate studios. And there is no guarantee the two studios will be close to each other. They could be in different buildings, different floors, different wings.

And with five kids, a washer and dryer in the villa is a big plus.

 

[Andrew015]

But, unless one of the kids is 18 or older, Mom and Dad need to be in separate studios. And there is no guarantee the two studios will be close to each other. They could be in different buildings, different floors, different wings.

And with five kids, a washer and dryer in the villa is a big plus.

Understood. Just trying to give the OP some options (usually, there's more than one way to skin a cat). And it seems this would be her only other option to a 2- bedroom, which costs almost double the points. While a 2-bedroom may be a more preferable option, it may be out of sight from a cost perspective. At least now, she knows the options and can weigh the associated costs/benefits accordingly.

 

[CarolMN]

I've always gotten a 1 bedroom wherever we stay but because we added a new member to the family recently, I have a question about how many people Disney allows to fit in a room.

I've got 5 kids (yes, I know I'm nuts). We usually have no problem staying in a 1 bedroom at Saratoga Springs which is where we're staying this time (my kids don't ever want to be a room anyway).

But, how many can I stuff in a room?

When I was a kid on spring break, that meant we could stuff 25 of us in a hotel room.

Just FYI - If one puts more in the room than allowed by not registering them, the extra people will not get a KTTW / Room Key / Magic Band.

That means those people will not be able to use Magical Express, take advantage of Extra Magic Hours or any of the Dining Plans and at least for now, will not be able to make/use FP+ selections except on the day you visit a park. AT BCV, it also means those people will not be able to swim in the feature pool (SAB). As the other feature pools are fenced in (currently in progress), it may also mean they wouldn't be able to swim in those, either.

 

[bookwormde]

I know the points chart for BCV, BWV & VWL still say 4 in a 1 bedroom, but the website clearly says 5 (bring your own bedding). Every room allows 1 infant above the base occupancy.

With the booking site enforcing this, if you book though the website (or even direct) it is clear that you are allowed 5+ 1 infant in these 1 bedrooms, no one has been questioned on this in a couple of years.

I know some people want to see the number on the points chart change, but everyone knows the policy has changed even if they do not like it.

 

[Deb & Bill]

I know the points chart for BCV, BWV & VWL still say 4 in a 1 bedroom, but the website clearly says 5 (bring your own bedding). Every room allows 1 infant above the base occupancy.

With the booking site enforcing this, if you book though the website (or even direct) it is clear that you are allowed 5+ 1 infant in these 1 bedrooms, no one has been questioned on this in a couple of years.

I know some people want to see the number on the points chart change, but everyone knows the policy has changed even if they do not like it.

But MS was adamant about five only for the longest time. Not sure it is such a done deal.

 

[bookwormde]

Yes they can change their mind at any point, but for now it is 5+infant at all but AKV values for 1brs.

I think the reason they keep the point charts the way they are is that they are available to the general public and CRO still uses the old occupancy standards from what I have heard.

You can put 10+infant in the VGF 2br lockoffs.

 

[Dean]

I know the points chart for BCV, BWV & VWL still say 4 in a 1 bedroom, but the website clearly says 5 (bring your own bedding). Every room allows 1 infant above the base occupancy.

With the booking site enforcing this, if you book though the website (or even direct) it is clear that you are allowed 5+ 1 infant in these 1 bedrooms, no one has been questioned on this in a couple of years.

I know some people want to see the number on the points chart change, but everyone knows the policy has changed even if they do not like it.

In addition to government regulations, the governing principles in this situation are our legal documents including the POS. As I read it, that's 4 in all 1 BR except those with 2 baths. Even the one under 3 is a stretch legally.

 

[bookwormde]

POS is just what existed at the moment of sale, nothing more and is just a sales legal requirement, not a governing document once initial sales are done. DVC can change anything that is in the best interest of the members, except the direct ownership items (total points etc). If they when below the original standards yes there would likely be a case, but more, not a chance.

If you are talking about life safety code as far a government regulations, I a have done the calculations and they are only a little past 50% of what the buildings could hold form an egress point of view.

 

[Dean]

POS is just what existed at the moment of sale, nothing more and is just a sales legal requirement, not a governing document once initial sales are done. DVC can change anything that is in the best interest of the members, except the direct ownership items (total points etc). If they when below the original standards yes there would likely be a case, but more, not a chance.

If you are talking about life safety code as far a government regulations, I a have done the calculations and they are only a little past 50% of what the buildings could hold form an egress point of view.

I don't talk about fire codes. The POS is the legal agreement between the members and DVC/DVD, it is not just a guideline. There are things they can change and things they can't, legally I don't see this as one they can unilaterally change. Put another way, if a member decided to push this legally, I think they could force enforcement. In addition there is no way to suggest flexibility in this area is in the best interest of the membership as a whole but it's easy to suggest that it's detrimental to all members and helpful to only a few.

 

[bookwormde]

Nothing in FL statute keeps DVC from changing it as long as it is in the best interests of the members, all the items that can not be changed are in FL code.

I think many (and in my opinion a majority) that would say going to 5 in a 1br and 9 in a 2 bedroom is in their best interests. Of course we can both only offer our perceptions since DVC does not poll members on changes.

DVC has even in point charts changed OKW and AKV, so saying they can not change flies in the face of reality.

 

[Chuck S]

Nothing in FL statute keeps DVC from changing it as long as it is in the best interests of the members, all the items that can not be changed are in FL code.

I think many (and in my opinion a majority) that would say going to 5 in a 1br and 9 in a 2 bedroom is in their best interests. Of course we can both only offer our perceptions since DVC does not poll members on changes.

DVC has even in point charts changed OKW and AKV, so saying they can not change flies in the face of reality.

Yes, they can change. But I would not expect anything to be reflected in writing unless a resort, like OKW, adds a sleeping area for another person. The current printed limits on the point charts reflect how many the units can currently comfortably sleep with the available bedding.

 

[twinsouvenirs]

So just to make sure, because I discovered I am incubating baby #3 yesterday (due in July) and our twins are a year old, if we can STAND it, we can still stay in any of the 1 brs on property until the newest baby is 3 or until we are crazy enough to add # 4.

 

[Dean]

Nothing in FL statute keeps DVC from changing it as long as it is in the best interests of the members, all the items that can not be changed are in FL code.

I think many (and in my opinion a majority) that would say going to 5 in a 1br and 9 in a 2 bedroom is in their best interests. Of course we can both only offer our perceptions since DVC does not poll members on changes.

DVC has even in point charts changed OKW and AKV, so saying they can not change flies in the face of reality.

There are FL requirements in some areas but each component of the legal documents (POS, Articles of Incorporation & By Laws) each state options for changes. Each are a little different and you'd be limited to the options available and there must be language that would allow the change. Lack of such would automatically remove the option. In this case the occupancy is contractual and there would have to be language that allowed the change and I don't recall it. Plus, as I see it, this is one that might actually require the membership to vote since it negatively affects all members (dues, saturation,etc) but only helps a small subset. As I said, I believe a member willing to push it could force the enforcement.

 

[bookwormde]

Dean,

Yes it would be interesting, but based on the changes other timeshare programs have made, which had far more substantive negative changes that failed, I have my doubts as to if the case would even be considered to have merit , and would be dismissed, but I would welcome someone trying.

 

[Dean]

Dean,

Yes it would be interesting, but based on the changes other timeshare programs have made, which had far more substantive negative changes that failed, I have my doubts as to if the case would even be considered to have merit , and would be dismissed, but I would welcome someone trying.

While it is not important enough to me to do so, I would love to see someone push it. As for comparing to other timeshares and concerns, you'd have to look at specifics including the legal documents of the other timeshares. Simply comparing the impact on the membership or the importance of the issues isn't especially applicable except as the legal documents apply. An example would be the Marriott 13 month window where they (like DVC) legally have full reign on reservation matters.

 

[Deb & Bill]

So just to make sure, because I discovered I am incubating baby #3 yesterday (due in July) and our twins are a year old, if we can STAND it, we can still stay in any of the 1 brs on property until the newest baby is 3 or until we are crazy enough to add # 4.

For any of the resorts that only officially sleep four, you would have to provide the extras for the fifth. And you could do this after #3 turns three. But with #4, you would be limited to the ones that offically sleep five.

If you could stand it. But you might as well book a value resort then for cash.

 

[jcbrush]

Can someone tell me if I can legally stay in a 1 bedroom villa at boardwalk with 5 plus 1 child under 3?
Thanks so much for any replies

 

[Disneycouple99]

Can someone tell me if I can legally stay in a 1 bedroom villa at boardwalk with 5 plus 1 child under 3?
Thanks so much for any replies

Yes. At least you can do it online this way.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Can someone tell me if I can legally stay in a 1 bedroom villa at boardwalk with 5 plus 1 child under 3?
Thanks so much for any replies

No, it officially sleeps four (no sleeper chair). So you can only get either five or four plus one. You need a two bedroom there.