DVC Moderate Resort Being Reported by WDWNT

[rteetz]

Also what is moderate room occupancy? I can't see them tearing down rooms if they sell, but if its the flip side then its free game

I think Coronado and CBR are the largest moderates with riverside being close behind. French quarter is rather small.

 

[umichigan10]

I'm interested to see how well the WL DVC sells. That's in the MK area but on the monorail. It also doesn't have good fireworks views. Their on the water cabins will only be looking at water and not have a castle view like the poly. If the poly bungalows didn't sell well I don't know that the WL cabins will either.

For me I see some appeal. But the over water bungalows are a breaking point for 95% of owners. DVC price has gone way up anyways so I can't see that whole thing selling well

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I just don't see where they can put a canal in to get to Epcot. I mean they can do it, but they will have to go under Buena Vista Dr. at the least if not Victory Way too. Even if they try to use the lake in the middle of the resort, there are foot paths that go out to that Island that will have to be raised (hard to tell the height of them on google earth) I can't imagine all this alteration will be worth it to the bean counters

It would have to link to boardwalk some how.

Honestly...a straight shot to the lake by MGM is easier...and may be the real goal.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

For me I see some appeal. But the over water bungalows are a breaking point for 95% of owners. DVC price has gone way up anyways so I can't see that whole thing selling well

The fact that the poly didn't sell out quickly is very damning...

Few things draw as much longtime Disney nostalgia and loyalty like the poly and contemporary.

If that has a hard time moving...there is a real problem behind the scenes/books

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think Coronado and CBR are the largest moderates with riverside being close behind. French quarter is rather small.

Caribbean has equal rooms to Coronado (which was Caribbean 2.0)...Dixie had slightly less...port half.

Caribbean is a huge property by land size though...a lot bigger than most think.

You can fit all of disneyland in the lake.

 

[Andrew015]

I think you guys are missing the boat with the whole canal to EPCOT notion (no pun intended). EPCOT continues to be the most neglected park by a landslide. The big bets are currently on HS and AK, with a primary goal of taking crowds away from MK. IF (big IF) this notion ever comes to fruition, my money is on a standalone tower in the wooded area between CBR and HS with a walkway to Studios. Construction timing would coincide nicely with the grand opening of Star Wars sometime in 2031 - 2036 (humor, but seriously)...

All kidding aside, this makes more logistical sense than creating a canal to EPCOT (sure is much more budget friendly, too). We all know that Disney loves the standalone tower DVC option (much cheaper than a sprawling setup). And they would get the nice marketing spin of the brand new SW land that is within walking distance of the brand new DVC...

Don't misunderstand me... I don't think this would ever come to fruition, as I just don't see how moderate DVC works. But if the idiots running the show decide that they want to dip their toes into the alligator infested Moderate DVC waters, then I suppose CBR makes as much sense (or more) than any of the other moderate resorts...

Edited to add pic of the area I am talking about:

 

[lockedoutlogic]

People don't understand the geography...

Caribbean and the pop complex are as close to studios...actually closer than Epcot. Plus the lake services Both.

And...the entrance to studios is being moved to directly across from AoA and pop...that is backside of Caribbean.

MGM is the soft spot if they want to link that area to a park

 

[rteetz]

People don't understand the geography...

Caribbean and the pop complex are as close to studios...actually closer than Epcot. Plus the lake services Both.

And...the entrance to studios is being moved to directly across from AoA and pop...that is backside of Caribbean.

MGM is the soft spot if they want to link that area to a park

Caribbean Beach butts up right against the backside of World Showcase. They could put the canal in that way or go across the road and connect it to the lagoon by BC/YC and Boardwalk.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Caribbean Beach butts up right against the backside of World Showcase. They could put the canal in that way or go across the road and connect it to the lagoon by BC/YC and Boardwalk.

The WRONG side of world showcase...roughly where the illuminations powder house is...

There's a different between the distance and "planning/design" difference...

The reality is if you dredge under victory way and though the neck of the "old" entrance to studios parking off Buena vista - which is permitted
To go away (maybe) - it is possibly less of an undertaking to accomplish more.

 

[rteetz]

The WRONG side of world showcase...roughly where the illuminations powder house is...

There's a different between the distance and "planning/design" difference...

The reality is if you dredge under victory way and though the neck of the "old" entrance to studios parking off Buena vista - which is permitted
To go away (maybe) - it is possibly less of an undertaking to accomplish more.

The old entrance won't be going away that's becoming bus only.

 

[Andrew015]

Caribbean Beach butts up right against the backside of World Showcase. They could put the canal in that way or go across the road and connect it to the lagoon by BC/YC and Boardwalk.

I think given the options, a walkway to HS would win over a canal to EPCOT simply because of cost. This walkway could spit you out right by boats that service HS, S&D, Boardwalk, YC/BC and EPCOT, thus giving you access to two parks on a serious budget.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

The old entrance won't be going away that's becoming bus only.

Even better...replace the whole road system for no general public service and incorporate a canal...

That's not a deterrent

 

[rteetz]

I think you guys are missing the boat with the whole canal to EPCOT notion (no pun intended). EPCOT continues to be the most neglected park by a landslide. The big bets are currently on HS and AK, with a primary goal of taking crowds away from MK. IF (big IF) this notion ever comes to fruition, my money is on a standalone tower in the wooded area between CBR and HS with a walkway to Studios. Construction timing would coincide nicely with the grand opening of Star Wars sometime in 2031 - 2036 (humor, but seriously)...

All kidding aside, this makes more logistical sense than creating a canal to EPCOT (sure is much more budget friendly, too). We all know that Disney loves the standalone tower DVC option (much cheaper than a sprawling setup). And they would get the nice marketing spin of the brand new SW land that is within walking distance of the brand new DVC...

Don't misunderstand me... I don't think this would ever come to fruition, as I just don't see how moderate DVC works. But if the idiots running the show decide that they want to dip their toes into the alligator infested Moderate DVC waters, then I suppose CBR makes as much sense (or more) than any of the other moderate resorts...

Edited to add pic of the area I am talking about:

According to reports that's not where the DVC will go. See that brownish patch to the bottom right of where you put the DVC? That's where the rumored DVC buildings will go.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

According to reports that's not where the DVC will go. See that brownish patch to the bottom right of where you put the DVC? That's where the rumored DVC buildings will go.

You mean that brown patch directly across from Trinidad south and north of the little mermaid rooms at AoA?

...uh huh...now look at the picture again and reevaluate my MGM plan...

And think about what the parking lot will look like when they take out the mass of concrete and install parking decks...

 

[rteetz]

You mean that brown patch directly across from Trinidad south and north of the little mermaid rooms at AoA?

...uh huh...now look at the picture again and reevaluate my MGM plan...

And think about what the parking lot will look like when they take out the mass of concrete and install parking decks...

It's been speculated the parking decks might now happen right now because they haven't started yet or filed any permits for them. They might just expand the parking lot instead.

 

[Andrew015]

And think about what the parking lot will look like when they take out the mass of concrete and install parking decks...

Isn't it amazing how the look and feel of "magic" has changed at WDW over the years? Magic used to mean great theming - spared no expense. Today, it means bloating the bottom line no matter the circumstances, because the magic will inherently be there. At some point (I think we're getting close), the pixie dust wears off and folks will begin to see things for what they are (i.e. an ugly parking garage, even if it is located ~10 minutes from Cinderella's castle...).

 

[manning]

Would I consider buying in..............NO!!! Did I say no!

I bought Beach Club at 65 per point. Now that was a bargain. 160 per point not a good bargain.

 

[umichigan10]

The fact that the poly didn't sell out quickly is very damning...

Few things draw as much longtime Disney nostalgia and loyalty like the poly and contemporary.

If that has a hard time moving...there is a real problem behind the scenes/books

I think its just a breaking point. I don't know the exact numbers but my parents got a hell of a deal back in 96-97. Now? You're getting a lot more up charge for yes, better locations. But probably pricing out the base you were originally targeting.

It'll be interesting to see how that process evolves and what kind of feedback they get for the WL units

 

[manning]

The magic is:
Grand Canyon
Zion
Yellow Stone
etc

Someone said "how hard you try you can't out due what nature creates in beauty."

Disney has become a commercial sink hole----no pun intended.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I think its just a breaking point. I don't know the exact numbers but my parents got a hell of a deal back in 96-97. Now? You're getting a lot more up charge for yes, better locations. But probably pricing out the base you were originally targeting.

It'll be interesting to see how that process evolves and what kind of feedback they get for the WL units

My inlaws got a great deal in 98...

I got a "pretty good deal" on 2006...

Now? No deal...like sitdown restaurant/plans...the worm turned.

I paid less than half the current price for better product.