DVC Interval international

[WalloghbyWay]

Some rumblings on TUG about a shell DVC resort profile showing up in interval as “DVE” searchable resort code. The picture is of BLT. We know BLT opened after the DVC departure to RCI. Maybe a change is coming?

 

[Chuck S]

Remember that RCI was the original trading company, then DVC switched to II, and back to RCI. I'm sure DVC management has to renegotiate the contracts from time to time, and both companies want DVC in their systems...so whoever makes the best deal...

 

[WalloghbyWay]

Remember that RCI was the original trading company, then DVC switched to II, and back to RCI. I'm sure DVC management has to renegotiate the contracts from time to time, and both companies want DVC in their systems...so whoever makes the best deal...

Yes, I think DVC likes offering less than superior resorts with RCI. More people will use their DVC points. You bring up a good point. Best deal wins, if Marriott who owns Interval makes a great deal, then that makes Marriott top dog in the TS game. They just might be that aggressive to get DVC back

 

[chalee94]

Most of the replies at TUG indicate that they are 99.9% sure it's just a glitch in the programming.

 

[BillPA]

Most of the replies at TUG indicate that they are 99.9% sure it's just a glitch in the programming.

Do you think Disney I.T. is working for TUG now also?

 

[bwvBound]

Do you think Disney I.T. is working for TUG now also?

Not a glitch in the TUG site ... but a glitch on the RCI site. And yes, RCI's history of lousy I.T. is also a long discussed topic.

 

[WalloghbyWay]

I read that riviera resort was seen in interval and someone posted a response from II that they are currently re evaluating and negotiating with affiliates..... there could be something to this TUG finding. Maybe dual affiliation?

Do you think they would allow Riviera to be dual affiliated since Riviera resale contracts have many restrictions, allowing more travel options? That was another point brought up.

very interesting theories going around. We all know II has better resorts.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Do you think they would allow Riviera to be dual affiliated since Riviera resale contracts have many restrictions, allowing more travel options? That was another point brought up.

No. Both because of the complexity, and because the only people impacted by the restrictions are resale owners, and Disney does not care about them.

 

[bwvBound]

No. Both because of the complexity, ...

Just wondering about your thinking on the 'complexity'? What makes it a "no go"?

(My other points-based timeshare allows dual affiliation with RCI/II and handles it with relative ease. Not all owners have an exchange company relationship; some have both; some are paid by direct-purchase-benefit with the remaining paid by the individual member, if they choose. It couldn't get much more 'complicated' than that ... but this other timeshare does exhibit care for their membership, to a point.)

 

[Chuck S]

I think _auroraborealis_ maybe thinking of two things that add complexity. Explaining to owners. many of whom DVC is their only time share, the differences between RCI and II, and why points deposited to RCI can't be used for II, and member services having to deal with and track deposits of rooms into both systems.

 

[WalloghbyWay]

I think _auroraborealis_ maybe thinking of two things that add complexity. Explaining to owners. many of whom DVC is their only time share, the differences between RCI and II, and why points deposited to RCI can't be used for II, and member services having to deal with and track deposits of rooms into both systems.

It is all very interesting indeed. Does member services have a hard task of tracking deposits? It could be 100 DVC members deposited, so here are 100 one bedrooms during these dates dumped into RCI. Let the exchange companies manage and track the inventory with whatver parameters negotiated in the agreement. It could just be an agreement where DVC has to guarantee a certain amount of units each year in any resort they choose. Maybe the specifics of the contract are public knowledge, if so I’m not aware of them and my theories are just my own thoughts.

personally, I wouldn’t put it past MVC to negotiate hard to get DVC back into II. With DVC back in II, it makes MVC reps sales pitch that much more enticing. “Not only do you get all of Marriott, Sheraton, Westin, and Atlantis resorts. You can also trade into all of the Disney properties with interval”. That’s a mighty hefty sales pitch to a potential Marriott customer.

 

[bwvBound]

I think _auroraborealis_ maybe thinking of two things that add complexity. Explaining to owners. many of whom DVC is their only time share, the differences between RCI and II, and why points deposited to RCI can't be used for II, and member services having to deal with and track deposits of rooms into both systems.

Ah. So we can't benefit because, as a class, we are considered too 'simple' (aka stoooopid).

 

[WalloghbyWay]

Ah. So we can't benefit because, as a class, we are considered too 'simple' (aka stoooopid).

I took as though DVC owners love Disney so much they don’t travel much elsewhere. So they don’t have as much experience with exchanges as say those who own in systems where exchanging is the name of the game. Both II and RCI have different rules and intricacies in using the platforms. Not just DVC owners, but I know plenty of owners in other systems who are clueless on exchanges and they only own one resort. With all of the great options DVC has, why go to some lesser rated resort In RCI? Sure you can switch up destinations but to be honest, it’s so much more economical to rent your points, make money, pay the maint fees and take the income and book a trip anywhere you want. If I owned DVC I’d never exchange. I’d rent and take the income and go somewhere else. Being that DVC owners usually have just DVC is just a testament to how great it is. Stoooopid??. NAH you guys are the only ones who purchased a timeshare that you can actually sell years later for a profit. IMO you are the smart ones.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I think _auroraborealis_ maybe thinking of two things that add complexity. Explaining to owners. many of whom DVC is their only time share, the differences between RCI and II, and why points deposited to RCI can't be used for II, and member services having to deal with and track deposits of rooms into both systems.

Also, creating another database flag relative to the qualifying of points. Every time they do that, we see things in the systems break or behave in unintended ways, like with MM if your stay is on Unclean Points even if you have a Blue Card, etc. In theory, since this would be a contract flag it might be fine, much like the Disney Collection flag. But it's Disney IT.

All of the exchange programs are used solely as a sales pitch. Disney don't really want people using them, or having to work at making them work.

 

[WalloghbyWay]

All of the exchange programs are used solely as a sales pitch. Disney don't really want people using them, or having to work at making them work.

I agree, it’s a sales pitch that sounds nice and less restrictive than just going to Disney every year, but it’s rarely used. Who the heck wants to give DVC points for an RCI resort that is decrepit? Facts are, with the exception of HGVC, RCI resorts are no where near as nice as Marriott. Westin or Hyatt resorts.

RCI is on the sales presentation like this. After all of the DVC selections, all of the destinations you can use the points for, its ANNND over 4000 Resorts worldwide. The buyer says, “oh I don’t have to come to DVC every year?” Sales rep OF course not! You can go anywhere so why wouldn’t you buy this point package?

 

[Chuck S]

Ah. So we can't benefit because, as a class, we are considered too 'simple' (aka stoooopid).

Simple, nope. But there are members that let bankable points expire because they don't know they can bank. And remember, people complained because the old tiered banking system was too complicated.

 

[bwvBound]

Simple, nope. But there are members that let bankable points expire because they don't know they can bank. And remember, people complained because the old tiered banking system was too complicated.

It appears we are not, as a class, the brightest bunch, eh?

 

[chalee94]

It appears we are not, as a class, the brightest bunch, eh?

I think Dean has said numerous times (and I can believe it) that many DVC owners do not think of themselves as "timeshare" owners.

 

[bwvBound]

I think Dean has said numerous times (and I can believe it) that many DVC owners do not think of themselves as "timeshare" owners.

That is quite true.

I wonder if DVD (the sales side) is missing out on opportunities by failing to grow exchange use? Would the inbound exchange guests be more inclined to accept sales invitations both to the table and at the table?

 

[WalloghbyWay]

That is quite true.

I wonder if DVD (the sales side) is missing out on opportunities by failing to grow exchange use? Would the inbound exchange guests be more inclined to accept sales invitations both to the table and at the table?

They never really mined RCI exchangers for presentations, not sure they would start with II exchangers.