DVC Housekeeping Costs

[Doctor P]

First of all, I strongly suspect Member Dues will pay for ALL cleaning that is done whether it is cash rooms or rooms out of service or members staying on points. The income from breakage, etc., offsets the costs. Second, the housekeeping costs includes towels and linens (both replacement and cleaning). For cash stays, that means towels and linen replacements every day. My expectation is that the towel and linen replacement costs approach a minimum of $500 per room per year. If you then factor in the cost of laundering the towels and linens, my guess is that that cost will be in the range of at least $750 (when you include periodic laundering of blankets, etc.). Add in the loss due to theft/damage that isn't recoverable, and my guess is that you add another $250 per room or so. Add in cleaning supplies and you have another $500 per year per room (easily). Add in the depreciation cost of equipment (maintenance carts, vacuums, rags) and you are probably at another $250 per room (at least) per year. Add in the cost of consumable supplies and you will add another $1000 per year per room (easily). I suspect I am low on these things, but in any case that leaves about $4000 per year per room to pay for housekeeping staff, or about $10 per day. My suspicion is that on average rooms are getting fully cleaned about one of every three days and getting some kind of cleaning about once every 1.5/2 days (I know that sounds like a lot, but if you think about it, it is probably reasonable).

So, quick and dirty, I'm not shocked by the amounts.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

First of all, I strongly suspect Member Dues will pay for ALL cleaning that is done whether it is cash rooms or rooms out of service or members staying on points. The income from breakage, etc., offsets the costs. Second, the housekeeping costs includes towels and linens (both replacement and cleaning). For cash stays, that means towels and linen replacements every day. My expectation is that the towel and linen replacement costs approach a minimum of $500 per room per year. If you then factor in the cost of laundering the towels and linens, my guess is that that cost will be in the range of at least $750 (when you include periodic laundering of blankets, etc.). Add in the loss due to theft/damage that isn't recoverable, and my guess is that you add another $250 per room or so. Add in cleaning supplies and you have another $500 per year per room (easily). Add in the depreciation cost of equipment (maintenance carts, vacuums, rags) and you are probably at another $250 per room (at least) per year. Add in the cost of consumable supplies and you will add another $1000 per year per room (easily). I suspect I am low on these things, but in any case that leaves about $4000 per year per room to pay for housekeeping staff, or about $10 per day. My suspicion is that on average rooms are getting fully cleaned about one of every three days and getting some kind of cleaning about once every 1.5/2 days (I know that sounds like a lot, but if you think about it, it is probably reasonable).

So, quick and dirty, I'm not shocked by the amounts.

we can all suspect a lot as far as costs go, you are throwing out tons of numbers here and I am not sure how much basis there is for them

$1000 a year per room on just consumable supplies? you think they spend $750,000 a year just for consumable supplies at one resort? I dont know, what in the world do you clean with?

theres just no way those rooms are getting some kind of cleaning every 1.5/2 days, theres just absoluteley no way

 

[Doctor P]

we can all suspect a lot as far as costs go, you are throwing out tons of numbers here and I am not sure how much basis there is for them

$1000 a year per room on just consumable supplies? you think they spend $750,000 a year just for consumable supplies at one resort? I dont know, what in the world do you clean with?

theres just no way those rooms are getting some kind of cleaning every 1.5/2 days, theres just absoluteley no way

Well, I guess you really haven't thought things through. Consumable supplies is NOT cleaning supplies. There is dish detergent, laundry detergent, shampoo, paper plates, paper cups, paper bowls, plastic silverware, kleenex, toilet paper, pens, paper, television tents, coasters, etc. So, between all of those things and all the things I have missed, I do think that $2.00 to $3.00 per unit per day is exceedingly plausible. As to cleaning supplies, think about how much you would use in terms of cleaning supplies to clean a two bedroom apartment twice a week. It adds up, but that is not what I was talking about with consumable supplies.

 

[Shellandscott]

its the same math, no matter what you are looking at

$21.60 per day per room = $7884 per year per room

Im guessing theres about 100 stays per room per year, so about $800 per stay

You are one zero off 8000/100 is 80 not 800.

 

[RobDoc]

thats my point -- the cash rooms and rooms out of service are not counted when determining these cost per night, cost per year comparisions

Yes, the cash rooms are counted in the housekeeping budget and the revenue is figured as a credit against those nights. The number of rooms out of service at any given nite is a small number.

we can all suspect a lot as far as costs go, you are throwing out tons of numbers here and I am not sure how much basis there is for them
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Where are you getting your figures from??? New math maybe ? I still feel that an average of $8000 per room per year is a very reasonable housekeeping expense. Even if you use the very low estimate of about 100 stays per villa per year and less than $8000 per villa per year, the cost per room per stay is still under under $80. When you look at the different villa sizes being cleaned, it is even more reasonable.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Yes, the cash rooms are counted in the housekeeping budget and the revenue is figured as a credit against those nights. The number of rooms out of service at any given nite is a small number..

yes the number of rooms out of service are small, but dont forget that 761 is the absolute max number of rooms, its more realistically somewhere in between to 700 and 761 to start with.

Where are you getting your figures from??? New math maybe ? I still feel that an average of $8000 per room per year is a very reasonable housekeeping expense. Even if you use the very low estimate of about 100 stays per villa per year and less than $8000 per villa per year, the cost per room per stay is still under under $80. When you look at the different villa sizes being cleaned, it is even more reasonable.

new math? yes its called weekend math
but the 8-10k per year is accurate, still seems a bit high to me

is there anyway way of getting the break outs of what goes into this?

 

[sjdisneywedding]

Well, I guess you really haven't thought things through. Consumable supplies is NOT cleaning supplies. There is dish detergent, laundry detergent, shampoo, paper plates, paper cups, paper bowls, plastic silverware, kleenex, toilet paper, pens, paper, television tents, coasters, etc. So, between all of those things and all the things I have missed, I do think that $2.00 to $3.00 per unit per day is exceedingly plausible. As to cleaning supplies, think about how much you would use in terms of cleaning supplies to clean a two bedroom apartment twice a week. It adds up, but that is not what I was talking about with consumable supplies.

I never implied you said you referring only to only cleaning supplies. maybe it was worded poorly

but the point was you said 1000 for consumable supplies
500 for cleaning supplies
xxx for this and
yyy for that

you are just randomly throwing numbers out there, I sure hope whoever is figuring this budget doesnt do it that way

 

[Doctor P]

I never implied you said you referring only to only cleaning supplies. maybe it was worded poorly

but the point was you said 1000 for consumable supplies
500 for cleaning supplies
xxx for this and
yyy for that

you are just randomly throwing numbers out there, I sure hope whoever is figuring this budget doesnt do it that way

The point was to put out some PLAUSIBLE numbers simply to show that the total amounts being bandied about may not really be all that exorbitant.

 

[sjdisneywedding]

You are one zero off 8000/100 is 80 not 800.

yes yes, I know I keep doing that

I know its $80 we already discussed its $21 per day, $8000 per year

I know its not 40 days in between cleanings

 

[DisDaydreamer]

I suspect the Hilton timeshare is also based on one week stays. Typically less cleaning involved with fewer "in and outs" for each unit.

I think this is probably a fairly accurate assessment. Though HHI booking is not technically based on weeks, I would think that HHI and VB both tend to have longer bookings than the WDW resorts.