tx911
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Nice font!This lines up pretty closely with how we’re thinking about RIV right now as existing owners.
RIV feels very likely to follow the CCV / VGF playbook once it’s declared sold out. A $250+ sticker price wouldn’t surprise me at all, especially if that number conveniently anchors the “see what you missed by not buying while it was actively selling” narrative Disney likes to reinforce. Even if incentives pop up occasionally, I’d expect them to be modest and opportunistic rather than anything resembling the current direct-buy economics while it’s still in sales mode.
I also agree that the real engine of the DVC business is, and always has been, new inventory. That’s where the strongest incentives live, and where Disney can most effectively contrast “today’s deal” with tomorrow’s prices. Sold-out resorts serve more as price anchors and occasional pressure valves via ROFR buybacks and limited resales, not as true value plays.
Where RIV is genuinely different is the combination of restricted resale + deep resale inventory heading into sell-out. That’s new territory. I think you’re right that resale pricing likely stabilizes or even ticks up modestly once the alternative becomes $260+ direct. A $120–125 resale price looks very different when the direct option is that far out of reach, especially for buyers who already have blue card access and just want long-term RIV usage.
For us, that’s exactly why adding more direct RIV before sell-out still makes sense. The effective price with incentives today (just below $30K for 150 pts w/retired military discount) is dramatically lower than the post–sell-out world is likely to offer, and the long-term value proposition changes once Riviera becomes “one of those resorts you wish you’d bought when you could.” At that point, the premium for direct points becomes psychological as much as financial - and Disney knows that.
So yes, I think your framework is right: resale RIV may firm up, direct RIV will almost certainly reprice higher, and people will still pay that premium because they want those points specifically, for the long haul (2070!!). Some of us may even be raising our hands alongside you when that happens.![]()
