Duggar surprise?

[Hannathy]

I agree, I think with that many children, at least one of them will eventually rebel, and will write a tell-all book, and will make the talk show rounds. Then we will know more of what their life was like behind the scenes.

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on this. Not as brainwashed as these kids are. For this to happen they would have to get away from the brainwashing and see there is another way of life. When could this possibly happen? Their entire life is controlled and programmed. They are NEVER out of their control, they have no freedom not even in thoughts. Every thing about their existence is controlled and planned.

To rebel you have to know that there is something to rebel against. These children are beaten down and broken from babyhood on, they are like an animal that has been broken to the point of having no spirit left, they are lifeless drones doing as they are told.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Breastfeeding does not guarantee you won't get pregnant, however if you are breastfeeding at least every 4 hours usually you will not ovulate. If you start regularly going 4 hours or more between feedings, most women will begin to ovulate (whether or not you have a period!). I got my period back after 3 months with my first, even though I was exclusively breastfeeding and not going more than 4 hours between feedings. However my son is 16 months old, only nurses 3 or 4 times a day, and I still haven't gotten a period.

My parents, on the other hand, did not believe in contraception other that natural family planning, and using lactational amenorrhea, got 3 kids all 3 years apart.

However, I forget exactly what she said, but I got the impression from an episode once that Michelle does not breastfeed past a year, and maybe not past 6 months. I know she said with one of the babies, she was still breastfeeding when she found out she was pregnant, so she weaned. There is no reason to wean just because you are pregnant.

 

[Pixiedust34]

I really feel anger and resentment towards Michelle Duggar, she makes women like myself feel so unworthy of living, because we can't have children and her children are a "gift from God (which I believe)", I guess I am not worthy of his gift. She just rubs me the wrong way.

This made me sad to read. You are NOT unworthy. I'm sorry you can't have children, as that is indeed sad, but in no way does it make you unworthy.

Perhaps someday you will have a surprise pregnancy. Perhaps you will decide to adopt. Perhaps you will be a mentor and a light to a child who needs a strong role model is his or her life. We thought we wouldn't have children, but adopted two and they are are the perfect family for us. Please don't lose faith. You are worthy.

About the Duggars.....Considering the fact that they already had 19 and all they went through with Josie, I did think Josie would be the last. I hope it will be a healthy pregnancy for Michelle and the baby, but there are a lot of risk factors.

 

[punkin]

I can't see that ever happening, how many young men want to marry into that family, unless it is one of the Bates children. She needs those older girls to raise these babies while she makes more. It is so sad, I feel for those girls, they must want so much more for themselves, or at least I hope they do.



I am part of a group of local military wives and you would be surprised how many of them don't know that, because one of them just announced she was pregnant and was shocked because she was breastfeeding.

I learned from an early age, I guess when mom and I had 'the talk' that the easiest time to get pregnant is right after delivery.

I really feel anger and resentment towards Michelle Duggar, she makes women like myself feel so unworthy of living, because we can't have children and her children are a "gift from God (which I believe)", I guess I am not worthy of his gift. She just rubs me the wrong way.

The woman is a living, breathing incubator. I really don't think she does a whole lot of "mothering" as the babies become toddlers. You are not the one that's "unworthy." G-d bestows different gifts on different people, and sometimes, the distribution seems vastly unfair, but there is a reason (if you are a believer) and sometimes, we are granted the "gift" of knowing that reason, but often we are not.

(Sorry this post is a bit religious, but I'd hate to see you resentful and hurt. )

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Didn't Michelle say at one point that if they couldn't have anymore children, they might adopt? That way, they can stay in the media.

 

[rotlex]

LOL at all the Duggar haters these threads always bring out. It's disturbing actually how much judgement is passed on this family by people that know nothing about them. (Not that I do either of course).

I really love the comments on how screwed up the kids are. Oh yeah, really screwed up because they aren't sleeping around at 12, using birth control, and visiting planned parent hood on a regular basis.

Here's hoping on judgment day He's a little easier on those that feel the need to judge others before taking the you know what out of their own eye.

 

[Hannathy]

speaking of passing judgement.........

You are aware that there are millions of young women that have the freedom to be educated, choose a career, use their brains, pick their own path in life, Know their self worth isn't dependent on how many babies they can breed, don't rely on a man to give them everything including their worth in this life, don't have to ask permission from the "man" of the house, Leave their parents house on their own, leave their parents home and go into the world not into the home of another controlling male, and shocker to you I guess is these women ARE NOT sleeping around at 12, and all the other nonsense you spouted.


Anyone who is brainwashed and has had all their free will and freedom of personal thoughts taken away is Yes screwed up! (it isn't their fault of course but they are screwed up)

 

[rotlex]

speaking of passing judgement.........

You are aware that there are millions of young women that have the freedom to be educated, choose a career, use their brains, pick their own path in life, Know their self worth isn't dependent on how many babies they can breed, don't rely on a man to give them everything including their worth in this life, don't have to ask permission from the "man" of the house, Leave their parents house on their own, leave their parents home and go into the world not into the home of another controlling male, and shocker to you I guess is these women ARE NOT sleeping around at 12, and all the other nonsense you spouted.


Anyone who is brainwashed and has had all their free will and freedom of personal thoughts taken away is Yes screwed up! (it isn't their fault of course but they are screwed up)

And because they choose to do things differently they are wrong? WOW, you pretty much nailed the type of thinking I was talking about.

Get angry much?

 

[Andtototoo]

I'm not sure why in the world this would be a surprise or frankly, even an announcement. You have sex without birth control, you'll get pregnant.

The only surprise to me since I'm not a good liar is how they can claim with a straight face that they are the sole support of their family and are raising their own children. They use their older children to raise their younger children and use all of the children to sell themselves on tv as paragons of virtue. Ha. Those kids are the ones responsible for that family's well-being.

 

[SaraJayne]

LOL at all the Duggar haters these threads always bring out. It's disturbing actually how much judgement is passed on this family by people that know nothing about them. (Not that I do either of course).

I really love the comments on how screwed up the kids are. Oh yeah, really screwed up because they aren't sleeping around at 12, using birth control, and visiting planned parent hood on a regular basis.

Here's hoping on judgment day He's a little easier on those that feel the need to judge others before taking the you know what out of their own eye.

I'm missing the connection here.

Surely you aren't saying if you don't live like the Duggars, your 12 year old is sleeping around, using birth control and visiting Planned Parenthood on a regular basis?

Methinks you need to get out more, if this is what you believe.

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

This made me sad to read. You are NOT unworthy. I'm sorry you can't have children, as that is indeed sad, but in no way does it make you unworthy.

Perhaps someday you will have a surprise pregnancy. Perhaps you will decide to adopt. Perhaps you will be a mentor and a light to a child who needs a strong role model is his or her life. We thought we wouldn't have children, but adopted two and they are are the perfect family for us. Please don't lose faith. You are worthy.

It did take me a long time to learn that, I had so many questions, fits of anger, and felt so unworthy and I lean towards that a little every time I hear she is pregnant again.

I was always sure I would have children, because I love them so much and have had the opportunity to be a mentor and part of some many children's lives, I guess maybe that is where I wsa supposed to be. We have finally decided to be happy without children and if it happens someday it does, if not oh well, but it still hurts sometimes.

The woman is a living, breathing incubator. I really don't think she does a whole lot of "mothering" as the babies become toddlers. You are not the one that's "unworthy." G-d bestows different gifts on different people, and sometimes, the distribution seems vastly unfair, but there is a reason (if you are a believer) and sometimes, we are granted the "gift" of knowing that reason, but often we are not.

(Sorry this post is a bit religious, but I'd hate to see you resentful and hurt. )

Thank you, sometimes I just need a friendly reminder.

Oh, I can see she is not really a mother to her children

 

[Conservative Hippie]

LOL at all the Duggar haters these threads always bring out. It's disturbing actually how much judgement is passed on this family by people that know nothing about them. (Not that I do either of course).

I really love the comments on how screwed up the kids are. Oh yeah, really screwed up because they aren't sleeping around at 12, using birth control, and visiting planned parent hood on a regular basis.

Here's hoping on judgment day He's a little easier on those that feel the need to judge others before taking the you know what out of their own eye.

I'm not a hater, I know plenty about their beliefs, and I don't think the kids are screwed up (I don't think they are brainwashed either). But I do believe it's irresponsible to have an 18th pregnancy at 45.

 

[Conservative Hippie]

It did take me a long time to learn that, I had so many questions, fits of anger, and felt so unworthy and I lean towards that a little every time I hear she is pregnant again.

I was always sure I would have children, because I love them so much and have had the opportunity to be a mentor and part of some many children's lives, I guess maybe that is where I wsa supposed to be. We have finally decided to be happy without children and if it happens someday it does, if not oh well, but it still hurts sometimes.




Thank you, sometimes I just need a friendly reminder.

Oh, I can see she is not really a mother to her children

A good friend of mine is married to a man who can't have children. They decided early on that IVF with donor sperm was not an option. My friend said she went through a "mourning period" when she realized she would never be pregnant, never have her own biological child. But then she accepted it and moved on. They have adopted one daughter and are on a waiting list for a second.

 

[rotlex]

I'm missing the connection here.

Surely you aren't saying if you don't live like the Duggars, your 12 year old is sleeping around, using birth control and visiting Planned Parenthood on a regular basis?

Methinks you need to get out more, if this is what you believe.

LOL, of course not. It just amazes me how quick people are to pass judgment on the Duggars. Really. Why them? Do they sit here and judge all other types of people and cultures throughout the world too?

As a side note - me thinks that a lot of the posters here with thousands upon thousands of posts in a few short years, may need to get out more too.

 

[Pixiedust34]

G-d bestows different gifts on different people, and sometimes, the distribution seems vastly unfair, but there is a reason (if you are a believer) and sometimes, we are granted the "gift" of knowing that reason, but often we are not.

(Sorry this post is a bit religious, but I'd hate to see you resentful and hurt. )

If this were on Facebook, I'd give it a LIKE!

It did take me a long time to learn that, I had so many questions, fits of anger, and felt so unworthy and I lean towards that a little every time I hear she is pregnant again.

I was always sure I would have children, because I love them so much and have had the opportunity to be a mentor and part of some many children's lives, I guess maybe that is where I wsa supposed to be. We have finally decided to be happy without children and if it happens someday it does, if not oh well, but it still hurts sometimes.




Thank you, sometimes I just need a friendly reminder.

Oh, I can see she is not really a mother to her children

Whether you become a mother or not, you'll always be worthy. Punkin said it well!

 

[SaraJayne]

LOL, of course not. It just amazes me how quick people are to pass judgment on the Duggars. Really. Why them? Do they sit here and judge all other types of people and cultures throughout the world too?

As a side note - me thinks that a lot of the posters here with thousands upon thousands of posts in a few short years, may need to get out more too.

Without going into a religious discussion, yes, they do.

 

[kidshop]

LOL, of course not. It just amazes me how quick people are to pass judgment on the Duggars. Really. Why them? Do they sit here and judge all other types of people and cultures throughout the world too?

As a side note - me thinks that a lot of the posters here with thousands upon thousands of posts in a few short years, may need to get out more too.

Because they have chosen to broadcast their lives and their children's lives on a TLC 'reality' show, and announce all their pregnancies on the national news.

When you do that, you are fair game!

 

[rotlex]

I'm not a hater, I know plenty about their beliefs, and I don't think the kids are screwed up (I don't think they are brainwashed either). But I do believe it's irresponsible to have an 18th pregnancy at 45.

I can't say I completely disagree. I do however, again, still stand to not pass judgment on them. They all seem happy, and healthy enough. In regards to age, I mean, who knows, but if God wills it, well, who are they, or anyone to question it. (Don't mean to get religious on that, but I am very much so myself).

 

[MichelleVW]

LOL at all the Duggar haters these threads always bring out. It's disturbing actually how much judgement is passed on this family by people that know nothing about them. (Not that I do either of course).

I really love the comments on how screwed up the kids are. Oh yeah, really screwed up because they aren't sleeping around at 12, using birth control, and visiting planned parent hood on a regular basis.

Here's hoping on judgment day He's a little easier on those that feel the need to judge others before taking the you know what out of their own eye.

I haven't really seen that many haters. Just a lot of people that think they really need to stop popping out babies. It can't be healthy for Michelle to keep doing this...and honestly I worry about her health and all the babies she will leave behind when this obsession finally kills her.

I'm not a hater, I know plenty about their beliefs, and I don't think the kids are screwed up (I don't think they are brainwashed either). But I do believe it's irresponsible to have an 18th pregnancy at 45.

Exactly!!

 

[pacrosby]

Advanced maternal age is a risk factor for a lot of potential troubles in pregnancy and delivery. Women are kidding themselves if they think putting off their childbearing into their late 30s or early 40s won't potentially come with a consequence. Getting pregnant may take longer or need more intervention. Staying pregnant might require more interventions. There is an increased risk of chromosomal defects. There are no guarantees that any of it will happen, but the increase in risk is definitely there.

Hmmmmmm

I had my first child at 38, second at 39, third at 41 and fourth just shy of 44. No fertility treatments, no difficulties conceiving, easy pregnancies, uncomplicated births and no chromosomal abnormalities.

Good thing I didn't listen to those who would've told me I was 'kidding myself', huh?