Dress Code during 1/3-8 - what a joke!

[Got Quattro?]

I feel that for everyone who wants a nice higher end meal at the YSH, there is another person who's been slogging around Epcot in their sweat stained wife beater and cut offs, beer in hand who suddenly has the urge for a steak and heads to the YSH.

I don't know why, but the CG and YSH seem to draw the most diverse crowds, everything from ladies in their little black dress accompanied by jacket and tie clad dates celebrating a special event, to families with maw in her bright purple bike shorts on her ample derriere, paw in his sweat stained tank and cut offs, and the four yungins in their chocolate ice cream stained play clothes and flip flops throwing bread at each other across the table. (And unfortunately I saw that family at the YSH once, and it wasn't pretty.)

Of all the "Signature" restaurants at WDW, only at those two have I seen people playing cards at a window seat for over an hour after they were done eating, ordering coffee and nothing else, and holding a table for over an hour in the middle of dinner rush, and so many other really obnoxious behaviours. I can figure that the ability to view WISHES from the CG brings in a crowd who normally would rather be attacked by rabid wildebeasts than spend that type of cash on a meal. I just don't know what the draw is for the YSH.

Anne

AMEN...finally someone with a lot of posts around here that is not affraid to say it like it is. This post is 100% spot on.

 

[RobInBigKC]

Frankly, the resorts would be cleaner if they were closed to non-guests traipsing through them to have a look around, hang out on the beach and in the lobby, etc. One can only hope...

Anne

This may technically be true but do you really want to limit who can come into the resort? A card reader and biometric device at each door?

My DS's don't get a chance to travel all over the real world and see nice hotels. They don't get a chance to visit fancy office buildings like I do. Frankly, their normal daily lives are pretty much limited to school and home with some treks to whatever sports facility they're playing at a couple of times a week and some treks to church a couple of times a week. So, it's a neat and inspiring experience for them to be able to stand in awe of the soaring lobbies, marble floors, themed decor, etc. at the Disney resorts -- even those Disney resorts we're not staying at. It's part of their Disney experience.

I also have friends that stay at the Deluxes and occasional Mods that like to visit ones they haven't stayed at yet to determine where they'll stay on their next WDW visit. This too needs to stop according to your comment.

BTW, DW and I (and hopefully my DS's -- I'm still raising them to be this way) try to leave all places better (i.e., cleaner) than we found them.

-- Rob

 

[ducklite]

Oh....So what you are saying is that these 4 star hotels and "fine dining" establishments would be there if the theme parks weren't there? That's a good one.

I think I'm about through with this thread, but just want to add one thing. For the most part I DO dress in the dress code these places ask, (not require). Always a collared shirt and decent shorts or slacks in these so called, "upper end" theme park/theme park resort dining establishments. The only difference between me and the folks that don't agree with my view, I guess, is I don't care, within reason, what OTHER diners wear.

Moot point, because they wouldn't have built those particular hotels if WDW didn't exist. However those restaurants wouldn't all exist if there weren't conference facilities at the hotels they are in. Think about it. Except for Artists Point, Jiko, and Bistro, every Siganture restaurant is in a resort with conference facilities. And the deluxe resorts without conference facilities also lack Signature restaurants, other than AKL and WL, which seem to have been built under a different business model all around anyhow.

Bottom line, in general, conference/business facilities=signature resturant.

Anne

 

[ducklite]

As someone who has worked as waitstaff at fine restaurants, I can assure you the staff isn't the least bit consernced with what you are wearing. Their prime concerns are being treated decently, and tip of course. Funny thing about those bumpkins, they tend to treat the staff much better than the dress ups. f i

As an FYI, I supported myself as a waittress and tended bar during college, and I treat servers very well, and tip very well also--unless service is poor, I generally tip 20-25%, and have been known to go to 30% when service was extraordinary.

Anne

 

[ducklite]

Another funny thing about those "bumpkins" they tend to have more fun than the
"dress ups". I guess there is less pressure when you don't have to worry about everyone-else not having as much class as you do

By who's standard? MY DH feel more comfortable when we are dressed appropriately and acting civilly. We are a bit more reserved than some, but still have lots of fun. Just because we aren't throwing food at each other and slogging around Epcot in our wifebeaters and bike shorts doesn't mean we aren't having fun.

Anne

 

[ducklite]

This may technically be true but do you really want to limit who can come into the resort? A card reader and biometric device at each door?

My DS's don't get a chance to travel all over the real world and see nice hotels. They don't get a chance to visit fancy office buildings like I do. Frankly, their normal daily lives are pretty much limited to school and home with some treks to whatever sports facility they're playing at a couple of times a week and some treks to church a couple of times a week. So, it's a neat and inspiring experience for them to be able to stand in awe of the soaring lobbies, marble floors, themed decor, etc. at the Disney resorts -- even those Disney resorts we're not staying at. It's part of their Disney experience.

I also have friends that stay at the Deluxes and occasional Mods that like to visit ones they haven't stayed at yet to determine where they'll stay on their next WDW visit. This too needs to stop according to your comment.

BTW, DW and I (and hopefully my DS's -- I'm still raising them to be this way) try to leave all places better (i.e., cleaner) than we found them.

-- Rob

I'm glad that you are raising your children to be respectful, unfortunately many aren't. I do wish they'd cut off access to the resorts to those who don't have business there--dining or a registered guest. It's disheartening to stay in a room with a castle view at the Polynesian and come back in the evening to find your patio furniture has been carted off by someone watching the fireworks from the beach there--and yes, IMHO it's hihgly doubtful it was a registered guest of that resort who did this.

People would still be able to take a look around, when they were there to dine, and dining would still be open to anyone. It would satisfy the want of letting people see a resort they were potentially interested in. And it is simply a want--I mean truthfully, have you inspected every resort or hotel you've ever stayed at prior to booking?

Anne

 

[Uncleromulus]

What we seem to have here is a "dress code" at Signature restaurants that isn't even mentioned on the Disney Web Site, that sometimes isn't mentioned by the CM's who take ADR's (and when it is mentioned, it has all sorts of spins and variations), and currently isn't being enforced except on rare occasions. To me then, it's still a suggested way to dress--not mandatory. Like that restaurant in Charlottsville where we ate this summer--jackets "recommended" for men. That's what they'd like--but did anyone wear one to dinner?? Not me, nor any but two gentlemen we saw all evening.

We could go on all day (and judging from this thread length, it seems we have ) about what current 2006 dress standards should be, what looks good (or dosen't), and so forth. Doubt that anyones opinions will be changed. People will wear what they wear, and if they continue to be allowed into Disney restaurants (and it appears they will continuue to be) then we should all expect to see all manner of dress at Disney "signature" restaurants.

 

[Nancyg56]

I'm so disapointed to hear that many of the "finer" restaurants have such ultra-casual customers. I wonder what the waitstaff think of that? That must be discouraging to them. Also, the top-notch waitstaff aren't going to want to work at a place where the "bumpkins" come to dine.

Sorry, I want to respectfully disagree with you. A few years ago my DH and I took a ride to the Yankee Candle in Ma. We were just "Sunday driving" something my DH very seldom gives himself permission to do. Well, we checked out Chandlers, but they were serving sandwiches. The Host told us to come back after 5PM and we could have dinner. We asked if our dress would be appropriate (DH had his 'garage guy tee and decent jeans, I was in sweater and nice jeans) and were assured. The dress code was dressier when we returned, and we said we were not appropriately attired. We were told to stay, brought up to a "good" table and treated very well. No funny glances no snickers, not from anyone staff or guest. There is really a difference between formal service and the expectations of dress and nice dining experiences.

We are not bumpkins, and understand that jeans are not appropriate attire at V&A. I have also see "uppercrust" people from our affluent areas dress and act like gutter rats when they dine. Wait staff want to work where they are treated with courtesy and respect, where the customers do not run them ragged because they can, and where one member at the table does not remove half of the tip. This is frommy own service experience in both formal and informal settings.

 

[newmousecateer2]

Frankly, the resorts would be cleaner if they were closed to non-guests traipsing through them to have a look around, hang out on the beach and in the lobby, etc. One can only hope...

People would still be able to take a look around, when they were there to dine, and dining would still be open to anyone. It would satisfy the want of letting people see a resort they were potentially interested in. And it is simply a want--I mean truthfully, have you inspected every resort or hotel you've ever stayed at prior to booking?

So, say at Christmas time, the only ones allowed to see a particular resort's decorations and enjoy them are the ones staying there? And there is a big difference between booking at a resort at Disney and booking at a Holiday Inn Express....like about, oh, $250 - $300 per night.

It really sounds like you need to convince Disney to close their resorts or "fancier" restaurants to anyone else when you are there so you can truly enjoy yourself.

 

[ducklite]

So, say at Christmas time, the only ones allowed to see a particular resort's decorations and enjoy them are the ones staying there? And there is a big difference between booking at a resort at Disney and booking at a Holiday Inn Express....like about, oh, $250 - $300 per night.

It really sounds like you need to convince Disney to close their resorts or "fancier" restaurants to anyone else when you are there so you can truly enjoy yourself.

No, I said staying or EATING there. Make a PS and go eat there if you want to see the decorations.

If you aren't financially supporting a resort, then why should they make themselves available for your use?

Anne

 

[Kaycee]

This thread has drifted far off topic a number of times, and personal attacks have crept into several posts. I think everyone has had ample opportunity to comment on the original topic, as well as a number of side topics. So I'm closing this thread now.

I would like to remind everyone to please remain polite to other posters in future threads on this, or any other, topic. Lively discussion is welcome; insults and attacks are not.