Dozen = racial slur?

This is why I try to stay out of Walmart (seriously). I had a similar unpleasant encounter, also with an African American woman who happened to be in front of me in the check out lane, which, at the time, was the only lane open. (This was several years ago in Gainesville, Florida). She went off on me because I started to unload my cart after she had unloaded hers, but before the cashier had finished ringing her order. There was a dividing bar separating our orders, and space between them, besides. She went on and on about how rude I was, and couldn't I see that she wasn't done paying yet, and how I thought I was more important than she was, her money spent the same as mine, Yackity Yack, Yada, Yada, Yada. I agree it must be some type of one-sided racial slur problem. Every week, I go to Meijer three miles from where I live, and a 90% caucasian neighborhood, and do just exactly what I did in Gainesville, and never have I had so much as a dirty look.

I don't think it had anything to do with her being African American (though maybe after years of discrimination she's seeing it in places it doesn't exist? :confused3 ), but that's just bizarre. What does she think they have those bars there for? I've never had that happen to me and I've been behind plenty of non-caucasian people in grocery lines.
 
Any female that yells and acts like that is no LADY!!
 
Hey DISers! Glad I found this thread. As a Black person, here's my opinion:

1. The lady heard something wrong. What I dont know.

2. The lady is crazy.

3. There is nothing offensive about the word "dozens". I have NEVER heard anything about this. So to the original poster, please tell your friend not to sweat it, because most likely, the woman is off her rocker!

So DISers, don't even waste anymore time looking up "dozens", and let's just do this . . .:confused3
 
:lmao: That's what I'm thinking as I read this thread. The grocery store just got a whole lot more dangerous. Who knew? :confused3 Between the dozen eggs and hamburger/hot dog buns -- It would have never even crossed my mind that it would be offensive to anyone talking about food that I'm sitting there reading the package of.

Oh give me a break! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Watch. In a continuing effort to be so politically correct and please those that apparently are now mortally offended by the word dozen, manufacturers will drop packaging everything in dozens. Eggs will be in elevens (until we find out that eleven means something so horrible we can't live with that word either), the DIS will ban the word dozen, maybe even the number 12 will be globally banned.
:rolleyes:
 

Hey DISers! Glad I found this thread. As a Black person, here's my opinion:

1. The lady heard something wrong. What I dont know.

2. The lady is crazy.

3. There is nothing offensive about the word "dozens". I have NEVER heard anything about this. So to the original poster, please tell your friend not to sweat it, because most likely, the woman is off her rocker!

So DISers, don't even waste anymore time looking up "dozens", and let's just do this . . .:confused3

Thanks for your opinion. And great advice!:thumbsup2
 
the lady actually said the word dozen back to my friend several times, so no she didn't miss hear it. also she did not appear to have an accent from another country or part of the US. So I doubt that for her dozen means something in another language. I really think it must be from what was posted earlier, that last paragraph from Urban dictionary.

deliliah...I don't think your rude encounter had anything to do with the womans race.

That reminds me of a lady I worked with yrs ago.This happened about 14 yrs before I met her, while she was PG with her 2nd child. She became PG in highschool and married her BF. Soon after the birth of their first child she was PG again. The husband still hung out with his group of friends from HS. One day a rumor started that an AA boy liked the sister of one if the DHs friends. The friend was furious and got a group together to go after the boy. The "gang" was in front of the boys house yelling racial slurs and throwing things at the house. The boys father came outside and started yelling and throwing things back into the crowd. Something he threw (which had been thrown at him) hit the DH in the head and killed him. Even 14 yrs later people would ask the lady I worked with how she could be friends with anyone that was black since "one of them" killed her husband. She would always answer back that her DH ws at fault, not the boys father. If it had been a white man that killed her husband, would they expect her to not be friends with anyone that was white.
 
I really think it must be from what was posted earlier, that last paragraph from Urban dictionary.
I read the part you are talking about, and I still think she's crazy. I have never heard anyone I know - my fellow Black friends - refer to "dozen" in this way. I am even talking to one of my friends right now on the phone who is saying the same thing. You can go by the "urban dictionary" if you want to (which I do not recommend), but I'm telling you, we don't find that word offensive, and the lady IS CRAZY!!!!!!!!!
 
:confused3

I was once accused of trying to cheat an AA clerk at Taco Bell once because I ordered a half a dozen tacos.

Me-I'd like a half a dozen soft tacos.
Him-How many?
Me-A half a dozen...six.
Him-If you wanted six why didn't you say six. Are you trying to cheat me?
Me-Sorry, I'll take six...

So sad :sad2:
 
Oh I agree she was a bit(or more than a bit) off to be offended by the word and to verbally attack my friend. What I meant was that is wasn't a case of her miss understanding, or just ramdomly going off no matter what word was said.
 
Hey DISers! Glad I found this thread. As a Black person, here's my opinion:

1. The lady heard something wrong. What I dont know.

2. The lady is crazy.

3. There is nothing offensive about the word "dozens". I have NEVER heard anything about this. So to the original poster, please tell your friend not to sweat it, because most likely, the woman is off her rocker!

So DISers, don't even waste anymore time looking up "dozens", and let's just do this . . .:confused3

Thanks. :thumbsup2

Sometimes when someone questions the use of a word we really begin to believe them. It's nice to see that that lady was just crazy.
 
This is why I try to stay out of Walmart (seriously). I had a similar unpleasant encounter, also with an African American woman who happened to be in front of me in the check out lane, which, at the time, was the only lane open. (This was several years ago in Gainesville, Florida). She went off on me because I started to unload my cart after she had unloaded hers, but before the cashier had finished ringing her order. There was a dividing bar separating our orders, and space between them, besides. She went on and on about how rude I was, and couldn't I see that she wasn't done paying yet, and how I thought I was more important than she was, her money spent the same as mine, Yackity Yack, Yada, Yada, Yada. I agree it must be some type of one-sided racial slur problem. Every week, I go to Meijer three miles from where I live, and a 90% caucasian neighborhood, and do just exactly what I did in Gainesville, and never have I had so much as a dirty look.

Was the lady old?

I have the same issue in my local grocery store. The old ladies do not want to put anything on the counter until all of their groceries are rung up. I think they're afraid that the cashier will make a mistake and ring up a few extra things.


That reminds me of a lady I worked with yrs ago.This happened about 14 yrs before I met her, while she was PG with her 2nd child. She became PG in highschool and married her BF. Soon after the birth of their first child she was PG again. The husband still hung out with his group of friends from HS. One day a rumor started that an AA boy liked the sister of one if the DHs friends. The friend was furious and got a group together to go after the boy. The "gang" was in front of the boys house yelling racial slurs and throwing things at the house. The boys father came outside and started yelling and throwing things back into the crowd. Something he threw (which had been thrown at him) hit the DH in the head and killed him. Even 14 yrs later people would ask the lady I worked with how she could be friends with anyone that was black since "one of them" killed her husband. She would always answer back that her DH ws at fault, not the boys father. If it had been a white man that killed her husband, would they expect her to not be friends with anyone that was white.

Wow, what a sad story.:sad2: What happened to the boy's father?
 
the father was not charged with anything. If I remember correctly he might have been in the very beginning, but charges were dropped. It's been about 20 yrs since I worked with her, so all the little details are long gone. I think the family moved because of threats against them.
 

Maybe what's sad is to assume that because the clerk was black, that had anything to do with what he said.

I've read many threads on the DIS lately about people being too sensitive and "reverse racism" and a lot of stuff to the effect that "these people" are just too sensitive and there isn't a race problem anymore, and if there is it's because of them being too sensitive.

There was an article on the Dallas paper yesterday. About a civil trial brought by the Southern Poverty Law Center on behalf of a black man who was assaulted by four white men in Linden, Texas.

The boys, ranging in age from 17 to 24 at the time of the assault, lured a 42 year old, mentally ******** black man (with the mental capacity of a 12 year old) out to a field to a "pasture party". They gave him alcohol, forced him to dance for their amusment, and taunted him with racial slurs.

The plan was to beat the man, but the first punch thrown knocked him unconscious. Some of the partygoers wanted to take him to the hospital, but the assailant and three of his friends (one of whom was a corrections officer at the local jail) intimidated the rest of the group. They said he was just an effin n-----, why have his blood all over the seats of your car? The four men put the body in the back of a pickup truck, drove out to a place called Dump Road, because it was near the city dump, and deposited the body on top of a fire ant hill.

Fortunately, the victim was found, and survived. But unfortunately, the loss of oxygen to his brain caused him permanent brain injuries.

Despite solid evidence, local juries acquitted two of the men of felony assault, and the other two were permitted to plead guilty to misdemeanors. Three of the assailants served 30 days in jail, and one served 60. In the predominantly white town, sympathy was for the defendants, even the one who showed no remorse and referred to his victim as "it.'

On of the men's mothers commented that because of the misdemeanor convictions, her son and his friends would have their names ruined forever, while the victim, who can barely walk or speak and has memory loss, was "better off today than he's ever been in his life" than he had ever been because now he lives in a nursing home with round the clock care, whereas before he had often wandered away from the home he shared with his mother and brother.

The civil trial was brought in order to obtain money from the assailants, because Billy Ray Johnson, the victim, will require lifelong care. A Houston jury awarded a total $9 million, although that is largely a symbolic amount and will probably never be collected. Billy Ray Johnson's lifetime care was conservately assessed as costing $2.2 million.

This assault happened in 2003. This decade! The assailants were all born after the civil rights movement, in our so-called enlightened age.

I am just too cynical to believe that racism is really not an issue anymore and that minorities who take offense to anything are just being too sensitive.

When white people stop assaulting minorities because of their race - and getting away with it - then I'll start thinking that minorities are too sensitive about anything.

What has this got to do with hot dog buns? Nothing at all. And I don't know what I would have done in the OP's situation. Been surprised. But I wouldn't think the woman was crazy. I would wonder what she's seen in her life to make her feel the way she does.
 
:confused3

I was once accused of trying to cheat an AA clerk at Taco Bell once because I ordered a half a dozen tacos.

Me-I'd like a half a dozen soft tacos.
Him-How many?
Me-A half a dozen...six.
Him-If you wanted six why didn't you say six. Are you trying to cheat me?
Me-Sorry, I'll take six...

I'm sorry, but what on earth does the fact that the clerk was AA have to do with anything?
 
Maybe what's sad is to assume that because the clerk was black, that had anything to do with what he said.

I'm sorry, but what on earth does the fact that the clerk was AA have to do with anything?


You're both right. I really shouldn't have told that story and I regretted it afterwards. But I didn't take it down because once it's out there it's out there.

In a small defense of my words I was relating a story concerning an AA and the word dozen which seemed to be the topic. However looking back on it my words were instead a way of insulting the clerk and I shouldn't have done that. I apologize for this.
 
I'm sorry, but what on earth does the fact that the clerk was AA have to do with anything?

Nothing. But quite often when someone starts a thread about a black person doing something wrong, crazy, etc., we get treated to anecdotes about other blacks. Usually skin color has nothing to do with the story, but that doesn't seem to matter.

OP, I'm not saying you're to blame. The woman's skin color was relevant to your story. It's not your fault people took the opportunity to tell their "crazy black people" stories on your thread.
 
You're both right. I really shouldn't have told that story and I regretted it afterwards. But I didn't take it down because once it's out there it's out there.

In a small defense of my words I was relating a story concerning an AA and the word dozen which seemed to be the topic. However looking back on it my words were instead a way of insulting the clerk and I shouldn't have done that. I apologize for this.

:thumbsup2

FWIW, I assumed you mentioned that he was AA because you thought maybe he was offended by the word dozen, like the OP's woman in the grocery store.
 
:thumbsup2

FWIW, I assumed you mentioned that he was AA because you thought maybe he was offended by the word dozen, like the OP's woman in the grocery store.

ITA...that's why I didn't mention the taco post when I said that the other post didn't have anything to do with the woman's race. While "offended" might not be the word I would use from the account given, it did give me the thought that dozen might just mean something different to some in the AA (perhaps southern AA) culture.

Yes I know African American is a race, but IMHO it can be a culture too if you know what I mean.
 
Nothing. But quite often when someone starts a thread about a black person doing something wrong, crazy, etc., we get treated to anecdotes about other blacks. Usually skin color has nothing to do with the story, but that doesn't seem to matter.

OP, I'm not saying you're to blame. The woman's skin color was relevant to your story. It's not your fault people took the opportunity to tell their "crazy black people" stories on your thread.


I don't know why your post reminded me of this.

One day I was trying to explain to someone who my friend/martial arts instructor is. After several minutes I realized all I needed to say was something along the line of "he was the only black person there". Same thing has happened when trying to tell someone who his wife is (ie if she's not around and I mention her to someone in our playground or homeschool group etc). He description can be pretty generic... the average sized blonde with a boy and girl, drives the green min-van etc. The I'll say "oh her kids are bi-racial".
Which reminds me of something else, completely OT but funny none the less

So we are in the middle of class the other night and we are about to start rythem drills. He says "I'll count since..Ooops never mind, I'll be PC" We all start laughing and one friend (who is very good friends with him) speaks up "just what are you trying to say. Are you saying white peolpe have no rythem" He just looks up at the ceiling trying not to laugh. We all start in Yep we are just a bunch of crackers". It was really funny, but I guess it's one of those you would have to be there moments.

I guess my point to positng the above stories are to show a couple of things.
Not every mention of race is meant as a "jab"' (not that I think dis ms was saying that). There is a middle ground. We can't go around being too PC, nor should we go around being insensitive either.
 

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