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[crystalsmom1021]

To me what really seems to be the issue the OP is bringing up is not that WDW isn't a place for all to come and be kids at heart (because that is what WDW is for) but that the attitudes of people.

I'm 5ft 3 1/2ish" there are def kids taller than me..so I'm not exactly like "yes please come in front of me because you're a kid and I'm 28 so I should be ok with it." My husband is 6ft 5 1/2inches. Out of respect for others he does move himself to the back of things. It actually can work out in our favor because there are many times he can get better pictures/videos lol

I don't think it's wrong for someone not to want their special event to be recognized but I don't think they should also lament about it if it doesn't happen. That goes for kids too.

If you see someone who cusses out a CM or is extremely rude to them chances are they are that way outside of WDW in their everyday life. That's not a Disney issue that's a personal issue.

As far as ADRs are concerned well yes sometimes people do get really upset and I don't always agree with their reaction but I do respect that for them getting their ADR might be part of their magic of their vacation. It's like if you got your heart set on a certain resort but it was sold out..sure another resort could do the trick and be fine but it would be hard not to be bummed out about not getting the resort you wanted.

I know the OP has already corrected herself but I do find myself getting a bit annoyed when the thought process is WDW=only for kids. If a family or couple decides to not go to WDW or any other Disney park unless they have their kids with them or have kids at all then that is a personal decision but is not the rule. I personally don't think there is anything wrong with going only with your kids but nor do I think it's wrong to go without kids.

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

 

[crystalsmom1021]

AGREED and I do pixie dusting when I can, for example I have given away paper fast passes in Disneyland California and Paris when I know I wont make them, I frequently give first timers help with directions or insider tips and so much more.

BUT I draw the line at prime spots for parades and shows. I am a small person and I know that my view will be obstructed by a regular sized person, so I make sure I get a prime front spot. Honestly if a child tries to squeeze or wiggle in front of me, I will make it an issue and stop them, push them away!

Thank You for Spreading the Pixie Dust

 

[BadPinkTink]

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

so you are saying that a 10 year old child, whose family are AP holders and gets to go to Disney every weekend, deserves Extra Pixie Dust than someone like me, an adult, who goes on their own once a year,travels half way around the world and has to save and sacrifice to pay for that once a year trip?? seriously, that just messed up. and the sense of entitlement just astounding.

 

[crystalsmom1021]

Truthfully, if a front row seat for my child is important to me I need to show up early enough to claim the spot.

I agree if it was a priority I would make it happen. Just don't be ready to jump the first person to come along as they might not realize the mistake. Again we need to take a breath and relax a bit .

 

[maxiesmom]

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

If a child under 10 wants a parade spot their parent can make it happen. If they want to meet Cinderella their parents can make it happen.

I disagree that Disney should be made extra special for those who are only in the single digits. And I am very glad there is no age cut off for those of us who like to feel the magic even though we are adults.

 

[Mom2Stitch]

Disney parks are made for families of all ages even if none of the family member are 10 years and younger. Not all kids/ young people get to go Disney because going is NOT a right, it's a privilege.


Some people like me experience the parks for the first time when they are in their 20s and others even older. I think adults who have never been have just as much of a right to experience the magic of it all, compared to an 8 year old who has visited 10+ times. Of course everyone should be nice to each other, but I don't think parents or kids should take advantage of the "expected niceness or courtesy" or shame other guests into do things for them.

A very dear friend of mine grew up very rough, she was shuffled from one foster home to the next. I had the opportunity on an all girls trip to take her with me and we went to MNSSHP. She was so thrilled that she was able to get her face painted and go trick or treating that she was in tears-she had never been trick or treating before I took her to WDW. It was like taking a kid for a first trip, I loved that!

OP- I agree with you about people not behaving and rude behavior in WDW. I know that any of us can get overtired, hot, and grumpy while there, but people cussing at CMs or other guests is entirely uncalled for. We should all feel blessed that we are able to visit because there are many, many people who will never get to go.

 

[crystalsmom1021]

so you are saying that a 10 year old child, whose family are AP holders and gets to go to Disney every weekend, deserves Extra Pixie Dust than someone like me, an adult, who goes on their own once a year,travels half way around the world and has to save and sacrifice to pay for that once a year trip?? seriously, that just messed up. and the sense of entitlement just astounding.

Yes I believe that children should be the FOCAL POINT. I have already corrected my original post. I believe Disney to be for families any shape and size. Any mother will sacrifice for her children. Maybe that is where my thought process is coming from. Willing to sacrifice for the younger kids. Yes an 8 yo little girl dressed up in a Princess costume should be flooded with pixie dust. A 40 yo woman in a tutu not so much.
Again a 40 yo woman in a tutu in WDW is GREAT just don't EXPECT to be treated like a princess. I would think the majority of adults not drinking the WDW koolaid would realize that is not entitlement

 

[crystalsmom1021]

A very dear friend of mine grew up very rough, she was shuffled from one foster home to the next. I had the opportunity on an all girls trip to take her with me and we went to MNSSHP. She was so thrilled that she was able to get her face painted and go trick or treating that she was in tears-she had never been trick or treating before I took her to WDW. It was like taking a kid for a first trip, I loved that!

OP- I agree with you about people not behaving and rude behavior in WDW. I know that any of us can get overtired, hot, and grumpy while there, but people cussing at CMs or other guests is entirely uncalled for. We should all feel blessed that we are able to visit because there are many, many people who will never get to go.

 

[TheDisneyNurse]

Um.... Yeah. I'm 21 years old. I work as an Oncology RN and pay for my own trips to WDW. I enjoy them very much! I found that going during my adulthood has many added benefits, and I just love that dose of nostalgia.

WDW is meant just as much for me as it is for anyone of any age group, thank you very much I'm sorry to hear that you had some unpleasant experiences during your trip. I can assure you that most adults who visit are not like that.

 

[crystalsmom1021]

I think the OP was trying to get people to consider the little guys rather than saying the big ones aren't welcome (that's how I read it anyway!)

I will happily let a little kid in front of me if they can't see a parade, the same as someone in a wheelchair; not the entire group just the people that need a little help.
I've not bought a balloon because it was the last Tinkerbell in the bunch and the little girl in line behind me told her mom that it was the one she wanted, I've given up my seat on the bus/monorail for another mom who just looked like she'd was at the end of her tether.

I have been to DW waaaay more times childless than with my boys, and I have always lined up for character photos etc. but I try to be as kind and thoughtful to others as I can be!

Love it. That was were i was going !!!!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

While I can understand your viewpoint on the age thing I don't agree with it. 10 is an arbitrary number (expecially as we know Disney considers someone an adult at age 10).

I don't know your background at all but a person who never went to Disney before the age of 10 might feel a bit different than you.

I was lucky that I was able to go several times over my childhood: 1 time sometime prior to 1994 with my mom and dad and sister though I have no memory of that save for just a few pics, again in 1999 with my dad, sister, stepmom and her family and again in 2004 with my sister. I went with my then bf in 2011 and our next trip is 2017 though we are now married and are planning on being there with my mother-in-law and step-father-in-law. The only reason I went in 1999 and 2004 was because my stepmom's mother lived about an hr away from Orlando so those two times we visited her we made an extra few days for WDW and Universal Studios.

The ages of my trip would be under 6 (for the prior to 1994), 11 (for the 1999 trip), 16 (for the 2004 trip), 23 (for the 2011 trip) and I will be 29 for the 2017 trip. If we use your age limit than the only trip where I should have been treated with extra pixie dust is when I went when I was 6 and I have no memory of that trip...There are many families out who were unable to or didn't want to or didn't think to take their children to WDW prior to age 10.

And I know you are honestly not trying to come on in any sort of way but when you say young children or those under 10 should be treated extra special it's basically the same as what you didn't like about other people where they said their kids should get special treatment but not necessarily another kid. I can't imagine telling an 11 year old sibling.."well honey you're 11 and you're brother/sister is 9 so they need to be treated with more pixie dust than you" (again I know you're not meaning it that way as I really can see where you are coming from).

 

[crystalsmom1021]

Um.... Yeah. I'm 21 years old. I work as an Oncology RN and pay for my own trips to WDW. I enjoy them very much! I found that going during my adulthood has many added benefits, and I just love that dose of nostalgia.

WDW is meant just as much for me as it is for anyone of any age group, thank you very much I'm sorry to hear that you had some unpleasant experiences during your trip. I can assure you that most adults who visit are not like that.

Again I never said Adults didn't belong. I just said more attention should be paid to those younger children. I hope our next trip goes without the bad apples. I am keeping my spirits up and hoping for the best

 

[crystalsmom1021]

While I can understand your viewpoint on the age thing I don't agree with it. 10 is an arbitrary number (expecially as we know Disney considers someone an adult at age 10).

I don't know your background at all but a person who never went to Disney before the age of 10 might feel a bit different than you.

I was lucky that I was able to go several times over my childhood: 1 time sometime prior to 1994 with my mom and dad and sister though I have no memory of that save for just a few pics, again in 1999 with my dad, sister, stepmom and her family and again in 2004 with my sister. I went with my then bf in 2011 and our next trip is 2017 though we are now married and are planning on being there with my mother-in-law and step-father-in-law. The only reason I went in 1999 and 2004 was because my stepmom's mother lived about an hr away from Orlando so those two times we visited her we made an extra few days for WDW and Universal Studios.

The ages of my trip would be under 6 (for the prior to 1994), 11 (for the 1999 trip), 16 (for the 2004 trip), 23 (for the 2011 trip) and I will be 29 for the 2017 trip. If we use your age limit than the only trip where I should have been treated with extra pixie dust is when I went when I was 6 and I have no memory of that trip...There are many families out who were unable to or didn't want to or didn't think to take their children to WDW prior to age 10.

And I know you are honestly not trying to come on in any sort of way but when you say young children or those under 10 should be treated extra special it's basically the same as what you didn't like about other people where they said their kids should get special treatment but not necessarily another kid. I can't imagine telling an 11 year old sibling.."well honey you're 11 and you're brother/sister is 9 so they need to be treated with more pixie dust than you" (again I know you're not meaning it that way as I really can see where you are coming from).

I get where you are coming from. In 2014 we made our 1st trip to WDW . I was 38 DH 39 DD 8. None of us had ever been. I loved seeing the little princesses in there gowns and the tiny prince with there swords. They are so young and innocent. They BELIEVE in the magic. The world is not a bad place with bad people. Everyone is kind and caring. This is the reason I feel that the innocent should be kept that way. They should be showered in pixie dust and magic.
I am not saying everyone doesn't deserve a little magic but I would hope the focus stays on the little ones.

 

[Oozma_Kappa]

I see you changed the title to ugly experiences. If you want to read about ugly experiences at WDW, read this thread:
http://www.disboards.com/threads/ha...her-guest-and-or-family-while-at-wdw.1872372/

 

[crystalsmom1021]

I see you changed the title to ugly experiences. If you want to read about ugly experiences at WDW, read this thread:
http://www.disboards.com/threads/ha...her-guest-and-or-family-while-at-wdw.1872372/

 

[crystalsmom1021]

Oh My goodness that thread is crazy scary

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I get where you are coming from. In 2014 we made our 1st trip to WDW . I was 38 DH 39 DD 8. None of us had ever been. I loved seeing the little princesses in there gowns and the tiny prince with there swords. They are so young and innocent. They BELIEVE in the magic. The world is not a bad place with bad people. Everyone is kind and caring. This is the reason I feel that the innocent should be kept that way. They should be showered in pixie dust and magic.
I am not saying everyone doesn't deserve a little magic but I would hope the focus stays on the little ones.

I totally get what you're saying though I'm not in agreement on just focusing on the "little ones".

Your experience (though again I have no idea just putting a thought into words) might be because you went for the 1st time with an 8yr old rather than people who went several times as they grew up, ones whose 1st vacation included children 10 and older (just using the age you mentioned), one whose vacation included multiple children especially if one or both of them was aged 10 and over, those going with multiple children for the 1st time where one child was under the age of 10 and the other child was aged 10 and older and those going for the 1st time in their lives as an adult. Then again maybe you would have the same thoughts on the "little ones".

Just because you grow older doesn't mean you don't believe in magic (that was kind of Walt's point). The unfortunate thing in treating the "little ones" with more pixie dust simply because they are young or younger than those around them is it's a form of entitlement (though obviously not to the same degree as what most people are speaking in regards to today's culture) as it's a belief that as one is a certain age they deserve more than someone else not at that age simply because of their age. I honestly can't imagine how my sister might have felt had my parents treated me more special than her at WDW. I'm not positive but the pre-1994 might have been her 1st trip too-she's 3 years older than me so that would have put her at about 9.

I know your point though wasn't about making older children or adults feel bad.

 

[Oozma_Kappa]

Oh My goodness that thread is crazy scary

I know! But since 2009 (going as an adult) I've never experienced any of that! I may have but just not realized it. I'm so focused on having a good time with my family, I don't care about what other people are doing (unless someone needs help). Some people like to people watch, so I'm sure they notice a lot more than me! I have been nipped in the heels by strollers, cut off by kids and scooters, had people shove during parades, witnessed lot of cutting in line for rides and busses, but none of it ever really bothered me. I guess because I've always chalked it up to that's how crowded theme parks are. Disney could raise prices a lot more to thin out the crowds (supply and demand), but they already get slammed for that every year.
I don't believe it's my birthright to go to Disney, I feel no sense of entitlement to "Disney magic", and I don't believe CM's should kiss our a$$es. Since my expectations are just for us to have a good time and nothing more, when something does happen, like a CM going out of their way or a tourist being extra nice, that's what I remember about my Disney trips and why I keep going back.

 

[crystalsmom1021]

I feel like it's what you make of it. I'm sure I have witnessed a lot of ugliness at WDW over the years, but I wouldn't be able to recount a single thing. I choose to ignore all that and focus on having a good time. I just do it without even thinking. If you really have to cut in front of me in line or at a parade, you are already dealing with selfish issues that I'm happy to not be a part of. I've just always let it all go.
Life is too short to worry about all that.

I know! But since 2009 (going as an adult) I've never experienced any of that! I may have but just not realized it. I'm so focused on having a good time with my family, I don't care about what other people are doing (unless someone needs help). Some people like to people watch, so I'm sure they notice a lot more than me! I have been nipped in the heels by strollers, cut off by kids and scooters, had people shove during parades, witnessed lot of cutting in line for rides and busses, but none of it ever really bothered me. I guess because I've always chalked it up to that's how crowded theme parks are. Disney could raise prices a lot more to thin out the crowds (supply and demand), but they already get slammed for that every year.
I don't believe it's my birthright to go to Disney, I feel no sense of entitlement to "Disney magic", and I don't believe CM's should kiss our a$$es. Since my expectations are just for us to have a good time and nothing more, when something does happen, like a CM going out of their way or a tourist being extra nice, that's what I remember about my Disney trips and why I keep going back.

 

[MaryLovesPoohBear]

I feel that children 10 and under should be treated with Extra Pixie Dust while in the World. After they hit the teens they can pretty much fend for themselves. If they want a parade spot or a character meal they can make it happen. DO I think that young children should have extra attention over an adult at Disney Yes I do. Do I think that Disney is only for kids NO I don't.

You've changed the title, but not the attitude.