Do you think college athletes should be paid?

The kids see their head coach pulling in millions each year and would like some of that action. The athletes are risking life and limb, not the coaches. But wait -- the guys also get mega training, improve their skills, and if it weren't for the university, how would the pro-scouts know they exist?

As a PP mentioned, I'm concerned about how much each player would get paid and how much of it would be under the table (like it is today) from wealthy alum. Would there be a salary cap?
As mentioned, not every head coach pulls in millions. Second, this is part of the same argument to increase minimum wage... "But the company/CEO makes $x millions, that money should go to the employees that actually make the company money."

Athletes are already getting paid... tuition, room, board, meals. It's funny how these same kids who are complaining about not having "spending money" or "going hungry" made it through 18 years of life (the last four as active teens) with no spending money. But they all have MP3 players/phones, and Beats headphones. :rolleyes2

While not an athlete, I did work as manager for our college football team and had two years on partial scholarship. I got injured during one practice (jammed & broke a finger) and didn't have to pay anything for the x-rays, treatment, and rehab.
 
Actually I think they should be able to receive a stipend to play. The schools make millions off these kids and while their education is paid for, the amount of time they put in for their sports leaves them no time for a part-time job to help pay for other expenses while they are in school.

My DD could play golf without a scholarship, but has been told there isn't time for both between her course of study and the time needed for her to play and golf isn't even a major time commitment like football or basketball so there is no college golf.

Agree.
 
I don't think the NCAA should exist as we know it today. It is, at most universities with athletic programs, a tuition-subsidized and taxpayer-subsidized minor league system for the NBA and NFL. Let the leagues bear the costs of player development and leave the higher education system to the business of educating young adults. By all means offer local intramural athletics as a complement to academic education but leave the high dollar, high pressure competitive system to the leagues counting on those players to become pros.
 
Aaa doesn't do athletic scholarships. Sports help bring in students but that money is often used to supplement other sports and athletic facilities.

That said, no, they shouldn't get paid. If they think they are good enough to be pro let them try. College should be about education.
 

No. They are given room and board. For spending money they can turn to their parents.
 
Well said. I was a college athlete too (women's soccer). I was getting paid via tuition, room & board. And, when I was being recruited by larger schools and even smaller schools that couldn't give athletic money "academic money is available to cover the difference that grants will not cover".

I also don't agree that college sports are just for entertainment, but that's probably because I am biased and well aware of the doors it opened for me and the experiences it gave me!

As someone that does attend a few college games a year, it's just entertainment. I'm sure for you that it was more than that and you were smart enough to understand and take advantage of it.
 
The vast majority of coaches aren't pulling in millions.



There was a basketball player (can't remember his name) complaining during March Madness that he goes to bed "starving" some nights. He said he goes to class and then works his butt off for basketball and can't even afford food while the college and the NCAA are making money off of him. While I absolutely feel sorry for him in the same sense I would feel sorry for anyone who can't afford to eat, I had to wonder who he thought paid for the food college kids eat. If he couldn't afford college after receiving his free tuition scholarship for playing a sport, maybe he should have gone to a community college like thousands of other kids have to do.

I feel for him, but he should have known what his scholarship included before he started. Those on a full ride, the meal plans would be included as part of the dorm costs but not all of them get a full ride.

I will say this, and I can only speak for football and baseball, some of these kids are recruited and have no parent figure that can go with them to meetings with the coaches. Many of them probably hear "scholarship" and assume its a full ride when, in fact, its not. They are recruited using partial scholarships, academic scholarships or whatever the coach can get for them. For those without a parent or guardian to go with them to get the details of what they have to pay or without a good, caring high school coach that does this for them; I can certainly see this happening.

I have talked college fees, scholarships and all the rest with high school kids since my sons were in high school. When my eldest was visiting college coaches sometimes we would take other players with us and I realized that some of them had no idea about the costs and what those $ amounts the coaches were throwing out meant. And these same kids may or may not be aware of grants and loans or have the information they need from their family to get these things.

I don't think they should be paid, I think that it would throw way too much money at kids that have no idea how to handle it. But I do understand how some can be on scholarship and still be in need.
 
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.
 
While athletics are wonderful, I truly do not understand why it is necessary for universities to have sports programs that require millions of dollars of support. College should be about academics, not athletics. I realize that there are many students who get to college because of athletic scholarships, but in the long term I would love to see a cultural shift to stressing academics over sports at schools, so that more students get to college on academic and not athletic scholarship.

DING, DING DING, a winner. Many schools lose a lot money on athletics so I just don't get why they spend it. There are a lot of kids in debt up to their eyeballs who deserved some scholarship dollars instead of someone that should be being paid by the NFL or NBA. Not everyone is cut out to go to college.
 
DING, DING DING, a winner. Many schools lose a lot money on athletics so I just don't get why they spend it. There are a lot of kids in debt up to their eyeballs who deserved some scholarship dollars instead of someone that should be being paid by the NFL or NBA. Not everyone is cut out to go to college.

I don't know about other schools, but I do know that the university here gets a boatload of money from alumni due to the athletic programs, a huge amount is made off one football game. Going by what a high school makes off one home game, it really is a huge amount.

And while I think academics and the arts are what is most important, I do realize that neither of those make money for them. Athletics do.
 
Nope, because then the academic institution would not have to give the athlete an education. That is the main reason they are there.

Not true. the main reason for them to be there is to pay their sport. If they don't play their sport they lose their scholarships.

For most colleges, they could care less if the athlete gets an education and quite a few of them don't.
My son is on athletic scholarship and I can begin to tell you the worthless classes they pick for them simply to make sure they keep their grades high enough to make them eligible.

Case in point: last fall term, had I not commented, my son's advisor would have enrolled him in.

Rap music appreciation
movement art appreciation (have no idea what the heck that even is)
English composition for non English majors (basically 6th grade remedial English)
and I forgot what the 4th class was. Even though he is a public relations major and wants to minor in computer science.

The English class would not have counted toward graduation which would have meant had he taken it, he would be behind.

Spring semester usually they don't care what they take as football season is over.
 
While athletics are wonderful, I truly do not understand why it is necessary for universities to have sports programs that require millions of dollars of support. College should be about academics, not athletics. I realize that there are many students who get to college because of athletic scholarships, but in the long term I would love to see a cultural shift to stressing academics over sports at schools, so that more students get to college on academic and not athletic scholarship.

Really?

My son attends the University of Cincinnati. they took in more than 23 million bucks in revenue from football and they are at THE BOTTOM of the revenue list in the Big East (their conference).

Ohio state took in almost 100 million bucks.

And you can't understand why the programs are well funded? Can you name any scholastic program that will generate that type of revenue consistently?

Believe me, the day the debate team starts bring in that type of cash is the day we'll see ESPN cover the national debate team super bowl.

Here's a list and remember this is from 2011 AND this is just the football team.

#1 Texas 104 million
2. Michigan 85 million
3. Alabama 81 million
4. Auburn 77 million
5 Georgia 75 million
6 Florida 74 million
7. Notre Dame 69 million


Also remember that money funds a lot of smaller stuff. Girls lacrosse, new buildings, grants etc.
 
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.

I don't really see how we could implement both parts of your statement. If we guarantee all scholarships for 4 years (I completely disagree it should be 5 since the player can only play 4 years anyway), and then cut the number of scholarships, it will REALLY change the face of college sports. My specific university had a number of injuries last year. Many of our back ups could only attend my former school due to the scholarships. The only reason we were able to go to the bowl game we did was because of how deep some positions were. Also, if we had walk-ons in those positions, there's a good chance that more players would have gotten hurt.



Personally, no, I don't think that the university should be paying the players. However, I also disagree with the rule that a player can make no money off of his likeness when the NCAA is making money hand over fist off of these kids. I think that if they want to sell their autograph, fine. If jerseys are made with a certain players name and number, that player should get a cut. That sort of thing.



Oh, and don't get me started on whether or not they should unionize. I'd like to stay points-free.
 
Those student athletes need to be careful what they wish for. If they aren't careful an awful lot of them are going to end up with nothing but a big tax bill for the cost of their education.

Full tuition, room and board at Northwestern is currently $65K per year.
 
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.

Many schools now do offer guaranteed 4 year scholarships. And there is a cap on how many scholarships they can give, the rest are walk-ons.
 
http://t.foxsports.msn.com/college-basketball/ncaa-council-approves-proposal-for-unlimited-meals-snacks-for-di-athletes-1

I am no expert on college sports...but these kids are all playing sports by choice, right? so they want to be paid to play while they are in college? how about they decide what is really important to them learning or making money playing sports.

As the parent of a senior who is attending a community college to limit the amount of debt she incurs I can't help but resent the sense of entitlement coming from the article,

so what do you all think?
Most of the students who play college athletics are on partial scholarship (i.e., tuition only), so some of them are also taking on debt to attend college. Whether they're on full scholarship or partial, they put in HOURS of practice and conditioning, and they allow their photographs to be used to promote the college. They risk injury.

I think they deserve something -- How much? That's the question.

If you think of the college athlete as an employee of the college (which they are), then it makes sense that they'd be paid for their time and effort. If they're on scholarship, then they're already getting paid -- to some extent. It makes sense to look at how many hours they're working for the sport, how expensive the school is, and then decide whether an actual check is fair or not.

Your question sounds like sour grapes: Why doesn't my kid get some benefit?
I feel for him, but he should have known what his scholarship included before he started. Those on a full ride, the meal plans would be included as part of the dorm costs but not all of them get a full ride.

I will say this, and I can only speak for football and baseball, some of these kids are recruited and have no parent figure that can go with them to meetings with the coaches. Many of them probably hear "scholarship" and assume its a full ride when, in fact, its not. They are recruited using partial scholarships, academic scholarships or whatever the coach can get for them. For those without a parent or guardian to go with them to get the details of what they have to pay or without a good, caring high school coach that does this for them; I can certainly see this happening.

I have talked college fees, scholarships and all the rest with high school kids since my sons were in high school. When my eldest was visiting college coaches sometimes we would take other players with us and I realized that some of them had no idea about the costs and what those $ amounts the coaches were throwing out meant. And these same kids may or may not be aware of grants and loans or have the information they need from their family to get these things.

I don't think they should be paid, I think that it would throw way too much money at kids that have no idea how to handle it. But I do understand how some can be on scholarship and still be in need.
I agree that many high school seniors are woefully unaware of how college costs work, and when they hear "scholarship", they figure that means they won't need to arrive on campus with more than a few dollars for an occasional pizza. They're shocked when they learn that orientation costs money, dorms require deposits, books cost how much?, you have to pay to park!, and so forth. Case in point: Last weekend we visited a college Open House and took along a friend of my daughter's. She and I go way back, and she asked me about a thousand questions (some about money, some about admissions and academics). She kept saying, "Neither of my parents went to college. Please tell me what I need to know." I'm glad to help her, and she's very willing to ask me things -- but how many kids don't have anyone to ask? Of course, those are the same students who don't attend the guidance office's "College Funding roundtables" AND don't read about money, etc. on the internet.
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.
This can be written into a scholarship contract, but most kids don't know it's a possibility. One of my favorite students ever -- and this has been 10 years ago perhaps -- had a father who'd played ball in college, so he knew a thing or two. He insisted that she have something written in about injuries. Sure enough, sophomore year, she tore her ACL (so common), needed surgery, and sat out a year . . . but, because her father had been long-sighted, she didn't lose her scholarship. However, not every athlete has such a well-informed father.

Athletes can also lose their scholarship (and spot on the team) if their grades aren't up to par. The teams provide tutors and require mandatory study hours, but these student athletes do spend a great deal of time 1) practicing, 2) traveling for the team, which sometimes means missing classes . . . and their grades can suffer because of their sport. Sometimes these kids are caught between a rock and a hard place: Do I do what's right for my sport, which means keeping my scholarship . . . or do I do what's right for my academics, which is about my future career? They have some great perks (athletic dorms, special meals, tutors, priority registration, and more), but it's not an easy college experience.
I don't know about other schools, but I do know that the university here gets a boatload of money from alumni due to the athletic programs, a huge amount is made off one football game. Going by what a high school makes off one home game, it really is a huge amount.

And while I think academics and the arts are what is most important, I do realize that neither of those make money for them. Athletics do.
All true, and most of those kids who are earning that money for the college will never go on to play pro sports. Very, very few of them will play beyond college.
 
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.
The issue is turnover. Yes, you probably don't need that freshman 3rd string DB this year. However, next year, when the starting DB is gone, that 3rd string has moved up to 2nd string. He already knows the plays & coaches, and his responsibilities.

Most kids who get scholarships won't see the field their first year. In fact, they may not even dress. What the coach is looking for though is the future.
 
http://t.foxsports.msn.com/college-basketball/ncaa-council-approves-proposal-for-unlimited-meals-snacks-for-di-athletes-1

I am no expert on college sports...but these kids are all playing sports by choice, right? so they want to be paid to play while they are in college? how about they decide what is really important to them learning or making money playing sports.

As the parent of a senior who is attending a community college to limit the amount of debt she incurs I can't help but resent the sense of entitlement coming from the article,

so what do you all think?

Playing by choice doesn't magically provide then money to live on.

My feeling is this--the school profits heavily off of their athletes. I don't think a stipend would be unfair to provide. There are programs for students where they receive a stipend for their otherwise volunteer time since they cannot use that time for gainful employment. Why should an athlete be different?

I disagree with paying them a wage for what is an extra-curricular activity.

I do agree that of the school profits off of the likeness of the player, that they should perhaps share some of that profit--like for official NCAA merchandise. Perhaps to balance that out a little, this could be in lieu of a stipend for those players.

But since their extra-curricular activity is tantamount to a full time job, I think it is time to consider some minimal compensation so that a player is not struggling to eat enough food or provide themselves the basics.

Let's remember that not all players get scholarships or housing allowances.
 
I think there needs to be some changes like scholarships are guaranteed for four or five years even if a player is injured and can no longer play. I also think there needs to be a strong look at how many players a college level team really needs. I mean many of those football teams have more players on full scholarship than nfl teams have on payroll. Do they really need to be three deep at every position or can some players on the third strong do double duty.

There are limits on scholarships.
FBS level is 85
FCS is 63

The NFL has a rooster limit of 53 but all of those players are ready to play. In college most incoming freshman need a couple year to develop into a productive player.
 
I feel for him, but he should have known what his scholarship included before he started. Those on a full ride, the meal plans would be included as part of the dorm costs but not all of them get a full ride.

I will say this, and I can only speak for football and baseball, some of these kids are recruited and have no parent figure that can go with them to meetings with the coaches. Many of them probably hear "scholarship" and assume its a full ride when, in fact, its not. They are recruited using partial scholarships, academic scholarships or whatever the coach can get for them. For those without a parent or guardian to go with them to get the details of \.

Let me just say Luv, you are absolutely right but those things can be like freakin mortgages. LOL.

My kid is 3rd string. he is fully aware that he is not pro material and he's totally fine with that but man o man. The amount of paperwork and releases they shove at you. My dh and I are fairly intelligent folks (lol or at least we liked to pretend we are) and my BF is an attorney and it still took us a moment to unravel all the ins and outs. I can only imagine a kid who maybe comes from a lower income household that never saw a contract in their life how overwhelming the process is.

LOL, look at it this way, the paperwork I just got when I upgrade my phone was enough to make me go back to two tin cans and some string. Can you imagine if Jr was really good with a few schools after him.

:faint:
 


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