Do you believe everything you read (on the internet)?

va32h

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I belong to lots of message board communities, and in one of them, a member (I'll call her Sally) stopped posting for awhile, then reappeared to tell us that she is suffering from a string of tragedies. Sally didn't ask for any money herself, but another member has been soliciting and collecting donations on her behalf. And Sally is taking the money. Sally pops in from time to time to thank everyone for their contributions and update us on her various crises - which never seem to entirely go away.

I was asked to donate and refused - I said I was not financially able, which is true, but I also have just a basic distrust of situations like this. After all - this is the internet, people can say anything.

It's hard for me to believe that anyone can truly be in dire financial straits, when they still have a computer and internet access, although people have given me explanations (maybe they use the library, a friend's computer, etc.)

I am also skeptical when the same person reports crisis after crisis, especially when some of the situations seem to contradict themselves. Or when people offer advice about various free social services and there is always some reason why Sally isn't eligible for them, or can't use them.

And I guess it just surprises me that anyone would ask for financial help from people they have never actually met. I realize that not everyone has a family or circle of friends they can turn to in times of need - but it just seems odd to me that a woman with a job, and children, and parents, would have no one in "real life" she could ask for assistance.

I haven't said anything on the discussion board, because everyone seems to be very sympathetic to Sally - even new members who weren't around when she left the board the first time. But the whole situation just seems really off to me.

So, I am sensible, or a heartless cynic? Do you tend to believe people when they post online, or do you secretly think "yeah, right!".

Personally, I believe people most of the time, and am always ready to lend sympathy, advice, or positive thoughts. But when the talk turns to money, my radar goes up.
 
I complelely agree with you. How do you know that Sally's friend is not actually Sally? I never believe anybody on the net or otherwise, who asks for money. I alway investigate for myself.
 
mickeyfan2 said:
I complelely agree with you. How do you know that Sally's friend is not actually Sally? I never believe anybody on the net or otherwise, who asks for money. I alway investigate for myself.

Same here. I would never do this. If I was in as much trouble as she says she is I have plenty of friends/family who would help me in a heartbeat.

If 'Sally' doesnt have this help available to her then that is another sad fact to add to her list of woes but even if her problems are not fictional she cannot possible be proud of begging a group of people who are effectivley strangers into giving her money.

:flower:

Jodie
 
I hate that I am this way, but I'm with you---when they seem to have a support group in real life, why do they need money from strangers? Once they start asking for money, I'm out of there!
 

Nope - I would not give money to someone from the internet. I don't even give money to charitable causes over the phone. They have to send me written info which I can verify.
 
va32h said:
I belong to lots of message board communities, and in one of them, a member (I'll call her Sally) stopped posting for awhile, then reappeared to tell us that she is suffering from a string of tragedies. Sally didn't ask for any money herself, but another member has been soliciting and collecting donations on her behalf. And Sally is taking the money. Sally pops in from time to time to thank everyone for their contributions and update us on her various crises - which never seem to entirely go away.

I was asked to donate and refused - I said I was not financially able, which is true, but I also have just a basic distrust of situations like this. After all - this is the internet, people can say anything.

It's hard for me to believe that anyone can truly be in dire financial straits, when they still have a computer and internet access, although people have given me explanations (maybe they use the library, a friend's computer, etc.)

I am also skeptical when the same person reports crisis after crisis, especially when some of the situations seem to contradict themselves. Or when people offer advice about various free social services and there is always some reason why Sally isn't eligible for them, or can't use them.

And I guess it just surprises me that anyone would ask for financial help from people they have never actually met. I realize that not everyone has a family or circle of friends they can turn to in times of need - but it just seems odd to me that a woman with a job, and children, and parents, would have no one in "real life" she could ask for assistance.

I haven't said anything on the discussion board, because everyone seems to be very sympathetic to Sally - even new members who weren't around when she left the board the first time. But the whole situation just seems really off to me.

So, I am sensible, or a heartless cynic? Do you tend to believe people when they post online, or do you secretly think "yeah, right!".

Personally, I believe people most of the time, and am always ready to lend sympathy, advice, or positive thoughts. But when the talk turns to money, my radar goes up.

Completely, 110% agree.



Rich::
 
I will give hugs, prayers, good wishes, congratulations, my condolences but I will not give $$$$.
 
No you aren't heartless. You are smart. People use the internet to prey on people's pity all the time and I honestly would not donate money to someone I didn't know online. I've even seen it happen here.

I need printed information from a reputable charity organization before I donate anything to anyone.
 
Nope. People can say anything they want on the internet. That doesn't make it true.
 
I'm with you on this too. I would never give money to someone on the internet. It is not heartless. It's common sense.
 
Nope, I do not give money to people on the net. I have seen way to many scammers. I have actually seen people fake the death of their own child in order to get $$$ and gifts from people. I think the internet has given con artists a whole new playground.
 
I've been supportive of the few DIS friends who had life threatening illnesses and wanted to see one last trip to WDW with their families before they died. Tykes had a friend, I'm not remembering this woman's name, but she was terminally ill and the DIS got together and sent her and her family to WDW. That was such a lovely gesture, and really an amazing thing to witness -- the collective kindness of virtual strangers. :) We've had several other cases like that one, sadly. Money really means nothing to me if I can't share it with people less fortunate like those poor families where a loved one was racing the clock against death. :( I'm sure if I run into a case like that again in the future here on the DIS, I'll be ready and willing to donate what I can.

On the other hand, I've seen blatant begging, for a lack of a better term, via the internet. People who are supposedly without food, yet have the funds to have internet services. One scenario had us donating for someone's divorce lawyer. Uhhh, no. Those "charities" I do not contribute to, but I certainly would recommend the person find a church or some other social program where they might find a helping hand.
 
I don't blame you. A person could actually make a full-time job out of posting lies to different internet boards to collect money.
I am especialy leary ever since that one poster named "ssatterly" tried to claim that her 5 year old DD had "brain cancer" on one of the DIS boards and it was found out through other boards and a little detective work that she was making the entire thing up. She actually has a DD but the little girl did not have cancer. What kind of sicko could make up a story about their child like that? :sad2: Unbelievable.
It is very sad, but people like that ruin for the truly legitimate cases of need.
 
nope learned a long time ago that some people thrive on drama and if they dont have it they create it.



I try not to get too involved with things like that.
 
Unfortunately I do not have enough faith in human nature to believe everything I read on the Internet. Therefore I would never donate to something like that, especially when, as you said, the person has a million excuses for why she is not eligible for the typically-available local or governmental assistance programs.

I have a BIL who behaves in a similar manner with regard to traveling. He supposedly has a job which requires travel all week (I am doubtful of this). He & DSIL own a home in Florida, where she lives and works full-time. They have no children. For some reason, he is able to travel all week for his job without incident, but when it comes to the weekends and getting himself back to Florida, there is always "something" that happens so he misses a plane, gets delayed etc. There have been traffic woes, there have been stories of him "taking a shortcut" over a fence at JFK (yeah, like that would happen in this post 9/11 society without him getting shot, for crying out loud!!!!)and falling into a terrible mudhole and losing his wallet in the mud and therefore his ID to get on the plane, he has been a witness to the finding of a murdered co-worker's body in a car trunk in NJ, his boss has had several major health events (heart attack, stroke,aneurysm)...all of which make it impossible for him to get home every weekend. He is not affair material...I can't imagine any woman in her right mind wanting to do anything with him, as his personal hygiene habits are not the best, if you know what I mean :rolleyes2 . He has little or no personality, and is not very attractive physically. My DSIL says she believes all these cockamamie stories, but I actually think that she's so happy to be in Florida that she doesn't care what he's doing up here. She's of the attitude "if he gets here, he gets here and if he doesn't, he doesn't". Works for them, I guess. :rolleyes:
 
I can't imagine giving money to a stranger on the internet. Sorry, anyone who was thinking of asking! :rotfl:

People are fascinating. Remember that college student who ran up astronomical credit card bills then started a website to have people contribute to help her pay them off? Clever, yes. And if people are dumb enough to give her money then all the better for her! But I have to wonder if the people who gave her money didn't have worse debt than the website girl! At least she wasn't trying to pass it off as a charity.

I give money to legitimate charities and I donate hundreds of volunteer hours. I am also pretty darn resourceful - if somebody needs help I can find help for them, but they have to be willing to take some responsibility! The agency I volunteer with has the philosophy that we empower our clients, we don't enable them. If they need help we tell them how to access the services but it is up to them to call for an appointment or whatever. I have no problem giving someone the tools they need, but I'm not about to do things for them that they are capable of doing themselves.

I am sure there are more con artists on the internet than we can count. Like some others have said, well wishes, pixie dust, thoughts, prayers, whatever, but NOT money. :)
 
no, I don't believe everything I read on the internet, or period for that matter.
 


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