Do People Really.......???

[SpectroMagic*o*]

If you go back and re-read my post (before you tell me how high the horse I am on is), you'll see I was referring to the logic of pool-swapping ONLY.

And if YOU go back and read MY post, you'll see that I WAS only referring to the pool hopping with you...hence why I addressed "Zippa D Doh Da" when it came time to discuss the cheeseburger issue!

 

[MareQ]

AND TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT THE RULES STATE THAT ONLY RESORT GUESTS CAN USE THE POOL, ISN'T WALT DISNEY WORLD A RESORT???? MAYBE IF YOU ARE NOT STAYING AT A WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT YOU CAN'T POOL-HOP. BUT AREN'T YOU PAYING TO BE ON WALT DISNEY WORLD PROPERTY? .

Disney advertises Pool Hopping as a Perk for DVC members staying in DVC hotels. Even DVC members staying onsite in NON DVC hotels cannot pool hop.

The signs are meant to deter all other people from pool hopping - meaning even if you're staying at All Stars - you are not allowed to use the Poly pool -only Poly resort guests and DVC members - staying at DVC properties - can use that pool.

If Disney intended for ALL on site guests to use ANY pool of their choice then they certainly wouldn't advertise this privledge as a perk to it's DVC members.

Direct form the member website...
Pool Hopping Information for 2006

You and any Guests staying with you at Disney's Old Key West Resort, Disney's BoardWalk Villas, The Villas at Disney's Wilderness Lodge, Disney's Beach Club Villas or Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort & Spa are permitted to use other Disney Vacation Club and Walt Disney World Resort hotel pools (in addition to the pool at the Resort hotel at which you're staying) if they are not at capacity.

If the pool you are visiting reaches capacity, you may be asked to leave in order to accommodate Guests of that Resort hotel. Please check with a Host/Hostess at the Front Desk of the Resort hotel you wish to visit to find out about pool-access availability. You must present your current "Key to the World" card with your Disney Vacation Club "Member" designation on it to use other Resort hotel pools. Pool hopping is not available at Uzima Pool at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge and Stormalong Bay at Disney's Yacht & Beach Club Resorts or at the leisure pools of these two Resort hotels. There are no exceptions to this policy.

Resort hotel pools may become unavailable from time to time because of capacity limitations. Due to expected high occupancy, Disney Vacation Club Members may not "pool hop" during the following dates*:
May 26 - 29, 2006
July 1 - 8, 2006
September 1 - 4, 2006
November 20 - 26, 2006
December 17, 2006 - January 2, 2007
*Other restricted dates may be added based on projected pool capacity.

 

[cxcelica]

VERY GOOD POINT!

And by the way, MyZoeJane, this is my problem with people like you: Why is it always about HOW MUCH YOU SPEND??? So, if I'm staying at the Polynesian, is it THEN okay to pool-hop to Grand Floridian? Because I'm staying at a deluxe resort, so I'm allowed to pool-hop within the deluxe resorts because I paid for it????? But if I'm staying at the Pop Century, you can't because, you're not paying as much as other people???

AND TO THOSE OF YOU (MICKEY FLIERS)WHO SAID THAT THE RULES STATE THAT ONLY RESORT GUESTS CAN USE THE POOL, ISN'T WALT DISNEY WORLD A RESORT???? MAYBE IF YOU ARE NOT STAYING AT A WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT YOU CAN'T POOL-HOP. BUT AREN'T YOU PAYING TO BE ON WALT DISNEY WORLD PROPERTY?
IN FACT, I JUST REMEMBERED, A FEW YEARS AGO WE DROVE OUR CAR TO CARIBBEAN BEACH rESORT JUST TO STROLL THE HOTEL AND WHATNOT. WE DIDN'T GO TO USE THE POOL BUT THE GUY AT THE GATE (WHO LETS THE CARS IN) ASKED US IF WE WERE THERE TO USE THE POOL OR IF WE HAD DINNER RESSIES. WE SAID NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE RESSIES, THAT WE JUST WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME AT THAT HOTEL, SHOP AND MAYBE SWIM AND SO ON. HE ASKED US TO SHOW HIM OUR RESORT ID (WE WERE STAYING ELSEWHERE ON WDW PROPERTY), HE LOOKED AT IT AND OPENED THE GATE, LET US IN, AND TOLD US TO HAVE A NICE TIME. AND IT WAS FINE. HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STAYING ON WDW PROPERTY. IF WE WEREN'T HE WOULDN'T HAVE LET US IN.

Wow...some people are taking this thread seriously...Relax its only a message board. No need to take this thread or what people say on it that serious

 

[disneyfan67]

I love reading the comments like the ones below:

That's really ashame. And I really do feel for you. I feel bad for you that you waste so much of your time and energy worrying about people as innocent as pool-hoppers. Man, I am SOOOO glad I don't worry about stuff like that. I have way too many other, more important things to worry about.

Or this little classic below:

I think parts of this thread are too funny. On our next trip to Disney in Sept I am going to make it a point to try to disreguard all the weird behavior that I see people doing at the pools...I'm not talking about the pool hoppers but from all the miserable people who are so consumed with "identifying, tracking down, and turning in" all the pool hoppers that they cant even enjoy their own vacation.

From what I gathered so far that if you follow the rules then you must be miserable. I never realized that before and I may look into some form of therapy.

in one of the "happiest" places on earth that the only thing they can think about doing when they get there is turning in a family for pool hopping then you must be a miserable person. I really feel sorry for these people and their families

I'm glad that someone feels sorry for people who respect others rights and think about more than just themselves. Sometimes it gets lonely trying to do the right thing and it feels good to know that there are some people thinking of you and your family.

Sorrow isn't as nice as happiness but I'll take what I can get.


I just love these threads and some of the responses, it's just awesome! I had never realized that just following the rules and being respectfull of others around you was so hard and such a complex issue. From what I gather on this thread and others like it is that some rules don't need to be followed but only a select few know which ones that can be broken. If you question that logic in anyway then you're not trying hard enough and need to be minding your own business. Also if you're not really comfortable with that concept of rule breaking then apparently you're a miserable person and some feel sorrow for you. Thanks to some of you for making that clear to me and I've learned a lot today. I can't wait to try out my new knowledge I just gained!

 

[Disney Girlie-Wirlie]

Wow...some people are taking this thread seriously...Relax its only a message board. No need to take this thread or what people say on it that serious

UM, YEAH, THANKS, MY POINT EXACTLY.

 

[mickeyfan2]

I just love these threads and some of the responses, it's just awesome! I had never realized that just following the rules and being respectfull of others around you was so hard and such a complex issue. From what I gather on this thread and others like it is that some rules don't need to be followed but only a select few know which ones that can be broken. If you question that logic in anyway then you're not trying hard enough and need to be minding your own business. Also if you're not really comfortable with that concept of rule breaking then apparently you're a miserable person and some feel sorrow for you. Thanks to some of you for making that clear to me and I've learned a lot today. I can't wait to try out my new knowledge I just gained!

Thank you for clearing this up for me. Now I know that I too need therapy!!!!!

 

[SpectroMagic*o*]

From what I gathered so far that if you follow the rules then you must be miserable. I never realized that before and I may look into some form of therapy.

You ARE a miserable person if you spend your vacation obsessing whether or not OTHER people are following the rules. Aren't there more enjoyable things in Disney to do besides worry about that?

 

[Mickey Fliers]

I think you meant "rocket science" and also, I have never been told of any rules, I've never seen any security, I've never been asked for ID, and I've never signed a form...I guess this is why some people do know of this rule and why others are honestly oblivious. I would've assumed that a sign that read "resort guests only" would mean WDW resort guests b/c they dont want people who havent payed to stay within the Disney Resort to swim in their pools. I just dont see Disney as the type of people to say "well you can only afford to stay at our value resort not our deluxe resort so you cant swim in our big fancy pool cuz you're not good enough"...I mean, either way, no matter where we stay in the World, Disney is getting our money to stay there, so why do they care where we swim? Again, I dont happen to do this for inconvenience reasons, but I'm just trying to make a point.

Sorry, I should have been more clear: It was a joke, Rocket Science+Brain Surgery=Rocket Surgery!! I guess it is an inside joke

I do understand your point, I just, respectfully, disagree. I feel that Disney has made it clear that they frown upon pool hopping. Whether it be a posted sign outside the pool, the pool being being practically locked down (SAB), ID checks at different resort pools, having FW patrons sign an agreement not to pool hop, and actually asking guests to leave the pool. This is an indicator, to me, that pool hopping is not something that Disney advocates.

I ask you, wouldn't you be rather miffed if you went down to the pool at your resort and couldn't find a chair, table, or just a spot to sit down and then you overhear a family, that is taking up 6 lounge chairs and one table, talk about how they need to get back to their resort to change before dinner? Maybe you are a better person than me, but I would definately be put off!

This has nothing to do with the amount of money you spend on your accomodations. In my eyes, my room charges (no matter how large or small) pay for the amenities at my resort and I, a paying guest, should have the ability and convienence of using those amenities over a non-paying guest. If I were staying at POP, couldn't find a lounge chair, and then overheard families talk about how they are staying at POR, I would find that equally bothersome. I guess you could call it "Dibs"

Either way, Disney has set the rules. Pool hopping isn't allowed.

Be well

 

[Disney Girlie-Wirlie]

I love reading the comments like the ones below:



Or this little classic below:



From what I gathered so far that if you follow the rules then you must be miserable. I never realized that before and I may look into some form of therapy.

Actually, nobody ever said you must be miserable if you're following the rules No one has a problem with people who follwo rules, that's fine and we're sure you're happy, not miserable.
They said you must be miserable if instead of relaxing by the pool and enjoying yourself, you're trying to pick out all the pool-hoppers.
Sorry, but in my opinion, that's work trying to pin-point pool-hoppers. And when I'm on vacation, I'm not trying to work. I just want to relax. That's all that was meant by that.
So, no need to overanalyze.

 

[disneyfan67]

You ARE a miserable person if you spend your vacation obsessing whether or not OTHER people are following the rules. Aren't there more enjoyable things in Disney to do besides worry about that?

I hope you realize that I was making fun or trying to lighten up things a little bit. It's true that I'm a stickler for trying to follow the rules and I like to think I'm a respectfull person. Having said that, I never have turned anyone in for poolhopping or anything else they might do at WDW. If a person was to make a real big issue about using the Polynesian pool and not being a guest, then I might think about it. It would also depend how crowded it was as well.

I don't care for your attitude that people are bad, miserable or evil because they try and be decent and follow the rules that are in place. Try and think about others and their rights and feelings as well. I have a feeling you will be the first to complain when Disney comes out with new strict rules and regulations to prevent abuses like pool hopping, etc, etc. When you're asked to show your ID and wristband for everything and anything, then who will you blame?

 

[disneyfan67]

Actually, nobody ever said you must be miserable if you're following the rules No one has a problem with people who follwo rules, that's fine and we're sure you're happy, not miserable.
They said you must be miserable if instead of relaxing by the pool and enjoying yourself, you're trying to pick out all the pool-hoppers.
Sorry, but in my opinion, that's work trying to pin-point pool-hoppers. And when I'm on vacation, I'm not trying to work. I just want to relax. That's all that was meant by that.
So, no need to overanalyze.

I was just joking and trying to make light of the situation. It's a good thing that I don't need therapy because that would cut into my vacation money.

 

[Disney Girlie-Wirlie]

Did you ask the CM can I pool hop to this pool before entering? If you did and they said you can, no problem here. But if you did not ask then you are not allowed by the CM and there is a problem.

Yeah, absolutely! He said "can I help you" when we pulled up, blah blah blah. And we said to him, "... we'll proabably use the pool..." (we like to resort hop when we go to WDW). We never used the pool; we just walked around, used the hammocks, went to the shop,...But he saw that we were staying on WDW property and let us in and it wasn't a problem, even though we weren't staying at Caribbean Beach. That's all I'm trying to say. To me, if WDW employees themselves aren't enforcing these rules, then why should anyone else?
Is there any truth to this: I'm under the impression that only the deluxe resorts strictly enforce NO pool-hopping? Is this true? B/c I've been to Caribbean Beach and Pop Century and there was no rule enforcement. But like I said in a previous post, when we stayed at Boardwalk, they made us wear bracelets.

 

[Mickey Fliers]

I don't think that anyone is going out of their way to pin-point and kick out pool hoppers. I know that I certainly, am not. I was just trying to point out that Pool Hopping is against the rules. Agree or disagree, those are the rules. Of course, you can choose to follow or disregard those rules, and you have to live with which ever choice you make. Just like everything else in life.

But ya know what, while I wouldn't let another guest tell me what I can or can't do, I DO have alot of resepct for the people who work there. And if a WDW employee ever said to me that I can't go to the pool b/c I am not a guest of that hotel, then I respect that and I respect them because that person is just doing his or her job.

And, I am certainly NOT ashamed of myself. I think you are taking this thread a little too personally. I did say that your logic was "warped" and in that post, I still believe it is. By your logic, even if you know you are doing something that isn't allowed, as long as you don't get caught, then no big deal. I just don't see how that is okay. You have respect for a CM that is doing their job, but you don't have respect for the rule Disney has set forth or the paying resort guests that you may be inconvienencing (sp?).

I certainly never judged your character. I did judge the "logic" that you used in your post. I also never said that I was "offended" by pool hoppers. Irritated, maybe? I gave you examples of "offensive and against the rules" behavior.

Anyway, agree or disagree, Disney has said that pool hopping is not allowed. Work it anyway you want, but that's the official word.

 

[SpectroMagic*o*]

I hope you realize that I was making fun or trying to lighten up things a little bit. It's true that I'm a stickler for trying to follow the rules and I like to think I'm a respectfull person. Having said that, I never have turned anyone in for poolhopping or anything else they might do at WDW. If a person was to make a real big issue about using the Polynesian pool and not being a guest, then I might think about it. It would also depend how crowded it was as well.

I don't care for your attitude that people are bad, miserable or evil because they try and be decent and follow the rules that are in place. Try and think about others and their rights and feelings as well. I have a feeling you will be the first to complain when Disney comes out with new strict rules and regulations to prevent abuses like pool hopping, etc, etc. When you're asked to show your ID and wristband for everything and anything, then who will you blame?

I dont think you understand my point...all the more power to you for following the rules...I wouldnt quite call me a rebel either...But that's where it ends...I follow the rules that I'm aware of, you follow the rules and that's great, but I'll be darned if I'm gonna spend my vacation worrying whether or not everyone else is.
PS- you've totally misjudged me, the only reason I woud care about the new strict rules is b/c it would be an inonvenience to be treated like a common criminal at WDW after spending all this money to be there...not because I wont be able to "break rules" anymore, that's just not my character

 

[Disney Girlie-Wirlie]

I don't think that anyone is going out of their way to pin-point and kick out pool hoppers. I know that I certainly, am not. I was just trying to point out that Pool Hopping is against the rules. Agree or disagree, those are the rules. Of course, you can choose to follow or disregard those rules, and you have to live with which ever choice you make. Just like everything else in life.



And, I am certainly NOT ashamed of myself. I think you are taking this thread a little too personally. I did say that your logic was "warped" and in that post, I still believe it is. By your logic, even if you know you are doing something that isn't allowed, as long as you don't get caught, then no big deal. I just don't see how that is okay. You have respect for a CM that is doing their job, but you don't have respect for the rule Disney has set forth or the paying resort guests that you may be inconvienencing (sp?).

I certainly never judged your character. I did judge the "logic" that you used in your post. I also never said that I was "offended" by pool hoppers. Irritated, maybe? I gave you examples of "offensive and against the rules" behavior.

Anyway, agree or disagree, Disney has said that pool hopping is not allowed. Work it anyway you want, but that's the official word.

I think you should be ashamed of yourself, because when you quote me the way you did and then imply that I'm disrespectful ("don't respect the fellow-man") and I have "Warped Logic", then that is, infact, judging someone's character, and I would certainly have every right to take that personally. Don't quote me if you're not trying to make it personal.

And sorry, but, I don't think it's having "warped logic" to not give a crap if other people are pool-hopping. So, please explain, how is my logic warped?
I know what the rules are, I follow them to my knowledge (ofcourse, I also try to enjoy myself, so therefore don't have my copy of the DISNEY RULE BOOK handy at all times), but it just doesn't peeve me out if other people do it. I don't know why, but it doesn't, that's just me! As long as I'm enjoying myself, that's all I care about. If that's being warped, then I guess Warped has a new meaning.
If I overheard someone saying they had to go back to their hotel and shower before dinner, I wouldn't even give it a second thought. It just wouldn't even phase me. Their Disney guests just like me. Again, that's just me. To each his own, some people care about stuff like that and really let it get to them, and some people don't.

 

[SpectroMagic*o*]

That's my problem with the issue of pool hopping and I will tell you that the next time I see or hear a family talking about it I will report it. Now if Disney chooses to do anything about it that will be up to them but a rule is a rule and frankly I have had enough of people wanting something for nothing.

But you're only looking at one side of it. And before I begin, I would like to say AGAIN (since people keep judging me for my point) that I have NEVER ACTUALLY POOL HOPPED!!! It's not about people wanting "something for nothing". Why? First of all, everyone is paying to be a Disney Guest. Secondly, the same rules go for everyone. So even if you are staying at the Grand Floridian and wanted to go show your kids the cool animated pools at the Pop Century Resort, you cant-even though you're paying 5 times as much as an All Star guest...And in that case it's nothing for a whole lotta something! Do you get my point?

 

[traviesojmt]

VERY GOOD POINT!

And by the way, MyZoeJane, this is my problem with people like you: Why is it always about HOW MUCH YOU SPEND??? So, if I'm staying at the Polynesian, is it THEN okay to pool-hop to Grand Floridian? Because I'm staying at a deluxe resort, so I'm allowed to pool-hop within the deluxe resorts because I paid for it????? But if I'm staying at the Pop Century, you can't because, you're not paying as much as other people???

AND TO THOSE OF YOU (MICKEY FLIERS)WHO SAID THAT THE RULES STATE THAT ONLY RESORT GUESTS CAN USE THE POOL, ISN'T WALT DISNEY WORLD A RESORT???? MAYBE IF YOU ARE NOT STAYING AT A WALT DISNEY WORLD RESORT YOU CAN'T POOL-HOP. BUT AREN'T YOU PAYING TO BE ON WALT DISNEY WORLD PROPERTY?
IN FACT, I JUST REMEMBERED, A FEW YEARS AGO WE DROVE OUR CAR TO CARIBBEAN BEACH rESORT JUST TO STROLL THE HOTEL AND WHATNOT. WE DIDN'T GO TO USE THE POOL BUT THE GUY AT THE GATE (WHO LETS THE CARS IN) ASKED US IF WE WERE THERE TO USE THE POOL OR IF WE HAD DINNER RESSIES. WE SAID NO, WE DIDN'T HAVE RESSIES, THAT WE JUST WANTED TO SPEND SOME TIME AT THAT HOTEL, SHOP AND MAYBE SWIM AND SO ON. HE ASKED US TO SHOW HIM OUR RESORT ID (WE WERE STAYING ELSEWHERE ON WDW PROPERTY), HE LOOKED AT IT AND OPENED THE GATE, LET US IN, AND TOLD US TO HAVE A NICE TIME. AND IT WAS FINE. HE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE STAYING ON WDW PROPERTY. IF WE WEREN'T HE WOULDN'T HAVE LET US IN.

Allearsnet.com has pictures of all the resorts. I looked up the POFQ where we are staying. The sign at the pool states "This pool area is for the exclusive use of Disney's Port Orleans Resort Guests." Not giving an opinion, just letting you know what the sign at this resort says.

 

[Disney Girlie-Wirlie]

Allearsnet.com has pictures of all the resorts. I looked up the POFQ where we are staying. The sign at the pool states "This pool area is for the exclusive use of Disney's Port Orleans Resort Guests." Not giving an opinion, just letting you know what the sign at this resort says.

Oh, ok, thanks for the heads up. And I respect that. I just saw where someone said that the pool was for "resort guests" so I thought that could mean WDW resort guests.
Like I said, I ,personally, am not out to break any rules. I am a rule and law abiding citizen, the best I can be, because that's how I was raised.
If other people don't want to follow the pool-rules, that's not my problem.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Oh, ok, thanks for the heads up. And I respect that. I just saw where someone said that the pool was for "resort guests" so I thought that could mean WDW resort guests.
Like I said, I ,personally, am not out to break any rules. I am a rule and law abiding citizen, the best I can be, because that's how I was raised.
If other people don't want to follow the pool-rules, that's not my problem.

Some resorts actually make you show your room key to get into the pool area.. I had to show alll of our room keys daily at the Beach Club..I'm glad because even with the key checks the pool was packed and it was hard to get a chair. It's a very popular pool and if pool hopping was allowed Beach Club Guests would have a really tough time getting to use the pool at all.

 

[rayelias]

I'm not going to comment on double cheeseburgers or pool hopping but all of you perfect rule followers who never break any rules are the ones I must get stuck behind on the highway doing exactly 55. None of you EVER go over the speed limit even just a little? I hope not because those are the rules!!

So, by your definition, unless you follow ALL the rules ALL the time, there's no use following ANY of the rules ANY of the time.

I hope your spouse doesn't think that way about your marraige vows.

I hope your kids don't feel that way about your rules.

Or, should we all just pick and choose which rules we feel are legitimate to us and follow them whenever it's convenient? It's about respect.

Why does it always come down to that arguement... if you don't follow every rule, there's no reason to follow any of them.

I guess that's why we have such a huge illegal immigration issue.
I guess that's why Iran doesn't feel the need to follow international law.
I guess that's why so many teenagers die from alcohol related accidents.
I guess that's why there are millions addicted to drugs.


Rules. Who needs 'em?