Do Obama supporters really, truly

[tinatark]

Think it's okay to take money (increase taxes) from those more wealthy to give (decrease taxes or give tax credits) to people less wealthy?

This is just mind boggling to me, that anyone would agree with it.

Do these people really think it's okay?

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

 

[cinmell]

Think it's okay to take money (increase taxes) from those more wealthy to give (decrease taxes or give tax credits) to people less wealthy?

This is just mind boggling to me, that anyone would agree with it.

Do these people really think it's okay?

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

Scary, isn't it?

What's the incentive? I don't think there is an incentive to do better if it's going to be "spread around."

 

[Free4Life11]

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

The incentive is that even after taxes you have more money. And more money means more things to make you happy.

A $1000 tax credit isn't going to buy me a Lexus or a vacation home.

 

[Mickey&Donald]

I think attitudes like this are a big problem in the world today, not exclusive to the United States -- everyone's so focused on ME ME ME, and many are not willing to help out their fellow man.

I don't see a problem with imposing higher taxes on those who make $$$$$, if the end result is a better way of life for all people.


Okay.. flame suit's on..

BTW, I won't be offended if anyone calls me a socialist, which I imagine is going to happen in 3...2...1...

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

I think it's fair if the tax rates are marginal. So as an example, everybody pays the same on the first 50k they make, no matter what. So whether you make 50k, or 50 million, you still pay the same amount on the first 50k. Then we all pay the same, but slightly higher amount on the next 50k, and so on, for each additional chunk of income.

I think this system is fair, because we all pay the same on each chunk of income.

 

[AndyLL]

Think it's okay to take money (increase taxes) from those more wealthy to give (decrease taxes or give tax credits) to people less wealthy?

This is just mind boggling to me, that anyone would agree with it.

Do these people really think it's okay?

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

Why do you as a republican feel its been ok to take money from the middle class and give to the wealthy and companies?

With the huge cap gains/dividend tax cuts the wealthy is paying a lower tax rate then I am.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Scary, isn't it?

What's the incentive? I don't think there is an incentive to do better if it's going to be "spread around."

I don't think so. I think in the past the top rates were far higher than they are now. But I don't think anybody was discouraged from earning more. In fact, the USA was at it's economic peak relative to the rest of the world. Nobody could touch us back then.

 

[Buckalew11]

And more money means more things to make you happy.

Sadly, OP, I think many people do think that this concept is OK. I'm all for helping my fellow man. I just want to be the one who decides who gets it and how much they get. THAT'S the difference to me.

 

[chrisw127]

I absolutely think it's fair to impose higher taxes on wealthier people. I've always thought that way, when I was a private in the army, when I was a poor student, and now that I actually have something to lose. I think the idea that people will have less incentive to work is absurd and simplistic. I also think that if you make over $250,000 a year and you worry about your taxes going up a lousy 3% because you somehow think the cop on the corner or your kid's teacher isn't smart enough to earn enough money and so they don't deserve a break, then you have no soul.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Why do you as a republican feel its been ok to take money from the middle class and give to the wealthy and companies?

With the huge cap gains/dividend tax cuts the wealthy is paying a lower tax rate then I am.

That's a good point. Rich people who live off of their capital gains pay far less than we who break our backs everyday. It's very unfair and it favors the rich...yet nobody complains. Makes you wonder why people get so angry when the system favors the middle class.

 

[Colleen27]

The incentive is the same as it is at all income brackets - more money. Even at the top rate, you still keep the majority of each extra dollar. Would you turn down a small pay increase because it is not a larger pay increase?

Yes, I do believe it is okay. I'm a strong believer in the benefits of progressive taxation, and our system is too "flat" since the Bush cuts. The benefits of government spending are enjoyed disproportionately by the wealthy, but still they cry about paying a share of the taxes that reflects that reality.

 

[chrisw127]

Sadly, OP, I think many people do think that this concept is OK. I'm all for helping my fellow man. I just want to be the one who decides who gets it and how much they get. THAT'S the difference to me.

I suppose the fact that a greater percentage of your tax dollars are going to Iraq than to help some poor single mom is a non issue?

 

[marybet]

What amazes me is that you think this is different from how taxes have always worked. You make more money you pay more taxes. Bush gave tax cuts to the rich, hasn't worked out so well. Obama would stop those tax cuts and go back to what they were under Clinton.

What amazes me is that Bush started a war that is costing $10 millon a month and has never tried to pay for it. We cannot continue to borrow money from China we have to start paying off our debt.

 

[sha_lyn]

I think attitudes like this are a big problem in the world today, not exclusive to the United States -- everyone's so focused on ME ME ME, and many are not willing to help out their fellow man.

I don't see a problem with imposing higher taxes on those who make $$$$$, if the end result is a better way of life for all people.


Okay.. flame suit's on..

BTW, I won't be offended if anyone calls me a socialist, which I imagine is going to happen in 3...2...1...

I disagree...I think what is wrong with the world today is the "give it to me, I deserve it just for breathing meantality"...that is a much better example of me me me me than the "I worked hard for it and earned it so it is mine" attitude


By "imposing higher taxes" do you mean a higher tax rate? If so how is that fair?

 

[ead79]

I think attitudes like this are a big problem in the world today, not exclusive to the United States -- everyone's so focused on ME ME ME, and many are not willing to help out their fellow man.

I agree with you that many folks are very focused on themselves these days, and I really wish that wasn't the case. I think it's important for those who have more to help those who have less. However, I think that should be done through charitable giving rather than a government mandate.

 

[chrisw127]

That's a good point. Rich people who live off of their capital gains pay far less than we who break our backs everyday. It's very unfair and it favors the rich...yet nobody complains. Makes you wonder why people get so angry when the system favors the middle class.

Because people are just not as informed as they think they are. I have a friend. She has always been a SAHM. Her husband has a solidly middle-class income and doesn't have a college degree, so he will likely stay right where he is. Socially, she is very progressive (pro-choice, etc.). One day I asked her why she was a republican and she answered "Because I like to keep my money." What money!?

By the way, she's voting for Obama this time.

 

[CapeMayMommy]

Yes, I do think it's fair.

How many wealthy teachers are there? How many wealthy nurses , firefighters or police officers are there? How many wealthy grunts are enlisted in the military?

The wealthy do reap benefits from the fact that many of us didn't choose to pursue the almighty dollar. We provide valuable services to the community instead

I am a working single mother, who owes on a mortgage. I have a master's degree and work for the government. I earn 60K a year.

If someone wants to give me a little tax relief---I'll take it.

 

[dwbakerjr]

Think it's okay to take money (increase taxes) from those more wealthy to give (decrease taxes or give tax credits) to people less wealthy?

This is just mind boggling to me, that anyone would agree with it.

Do these people really think it's okay?

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

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Yeah, who would EVER suggest taxing the higher income brackets more aggressively than the lower brackets (I believe the term is generally called 'progressive tax structure', although on these threads the buzzword is 'socialism')..Lemmee see... Oh yeah.... It was that guy in 1909 addressing congress for a significantly larger tax burden for the wealthy; a guy named Ted Roosevelt, a republican...

And giving money to people at/near poverty levels, funded by tax revenues ('earned income credits', remember that one..?).. that came from the administration of that movie guy, Ron Reagan (and was supported recently by that 'W' fellow now in office..)

Yeah... you gotta watch out for those repub/pinko/socialist guys... they're all over the place..

 

[Colleen27]

I don't think so. I think in the past the top rates were far higher than they are now. But I don't think anybody was discouraged from earning more. In fact, the USA was at it's economic peak relative to the rest of the world. Nobody could touch us back then.

That's something I think a lot of modern Republicans have conveniently forgotten. Obama is not proposing a ridiculously high top tax rate; he's proposing a return to the Clinton-era rate, which was lower than it had been in the preceding 3 dacades.

The funding for government spending has to come from somewhere, and more and more it seems that everyone should think it should come from somewhere else. It is the height of selfishness, IMO, to insist that the tax burden should be bourne by those already struggling for the sake of fairness to those who have far more than they need. It is not in *anyone's* best interests to continue to build up debt or to tax people into not being able to make ends meet.

 

[LisaR]

Think it's okay to take money (increase taxes) from those more wealthy to give (decrease taxes or give tax credits) to people less wealthy?

This is just mind boggling to me, that anyone would agree with it.

Do these people really think it's okay?

What's the incentive to do better financially under the Obama plan, as your increase will be lessor so that others can "share your wealth"?

You know what is mind boggling to me? YOUR guy believed in the EXACT SAME THING but he changed his mind for the time being. I have posted this repeatedly but nobody acknowledges that this is EXACTLY what John McCain proposed in 2000. Do you really think McCain doesn't believe in this anymore? After years of being a moderate and years of having the same beliefs on taxes, he suddenly woke up in 2006 and said, "I've had it wrong all along." How about he lost in 2000 because he wasn't republican enough for the right and he changed his talking points. The question I have is if he is elected, which McCain will show up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY