Do I get six fast passes +??

[OtherScott]

I'd put money on that too.

"We need to find a solution to this problem of people paying double to get into the parks!"

 

[#1DopeyFan]

Originally Posted by no.disney.executive.ever
"We need to find a solution to this problem of people paying double to get into the parks!"

 

[ctl]

VIP tour costs $315 an hour (if you are staying on WDW property). The minimum is 6 hours and then you can plan the day how you like. To be honest your 2 year old will probably not remember any of this trip, but there are great babysitting services on WDW like The Peter Pan Club (which my children loved). The club has Disney characters who appear and food and snacks and is lots of fun.Your child could get a break from the crush and lines and you could have a little free time. Just a thought. Don't stress your vacation too much, it's supposed to be fun.

 

[ljcastro18]

As the a*** in question. i didn't mean to offend, and maybe i shouldn''t have combined the two threads.

I hope we all have great vacations.

OP - Sorry. HM is my fave ride too. I'd rider swap with you any day.

Thank you so much!! no harm done , I might have to take you up on that rider swap offer one day

 

[bigskip]

Thank you so much!! no harm done , I might have to take you up on that rider swap offer one day

i'm in Cali next year... i'll happily meet you.

 

[TDC Nala]

I'd put money on that too.



Yep. Same as the discussions about how Disney doesn't want us loyal repeaters because they are focused on first timers. Disney really wants as many income streams as possible.

It's not really that they don't WANT the repeaters there. They figure the repeaters will come anyway, whether they are the focus or not. So they are focusing on the first-timers, because first-timers usually spend more - whether out of desire to have the best time or because they don't know how to avoid it.

Enough repeaters would have to desert them for Universal or Sea World to prove them wrong.

 

[bigskip]

It's not really that they don't WANT the repeaters there. They figure the repeaters will come anyway, whether they are the focus or not. So they are focusing on the first-timers, because first-timers usually spend more - whether out of desire to have the best time or because they don't know how to avoid it.

Enough repeaters would have to desert them for Universal or Sea World to prove them wrong.

A lot of first timers from foreign parts think they are going for a one off holiday of a lifetime, especially as they will have spent upwards of $700 ( if they have shopped about and got a good deal) just to get to the USA, without any accomodation or entry tickets, and so will spend a lot on merchandising. We see people on UK based boards saying they will be spending $16K on their vacation, excluding Spends. this is why Disney want the first timers, and not repeat business, at least from a UK point of view.

This is why we get slightly cheaper tickets (14 or 21 day options available) and more free dining than US residents.

I'm lucky i can afford to visit at least once a year.

I certainly wouldn't want to spend a 14 night holiday in Universal, there jut isn't enough to do. I'll put up with the changes, as i'm going to have a relaxing time away from my work....

 

[fairyprincess88]

I must be confused because I fail to see why this would be an issue, let alone an issue Disney would be thrilled to have more of.

Lay it out it basic English, "Hey Disney, now I know you are going to let my kid in for free and all, but do you mind if I give you all this money here instead?"

Because pretty much, that is what it boils down to. Disney is not going to have a problem with this if the OP doesn't have a problem paying it.

And it's not some scam either if the OP wants to pay for the tickets to get more FP+, she is paying for the ticket, and she has an actual human being attached to said ticket. So the kid is two instead of three, well aging your kid up, paying for it, and getting that kid paid perks for doing so? Nothing unethical there.

Sure most would see the perks as worth the cost, but if she thinks they are then no harm no foul. It's just like people who pay the extra to bump their 9 year old to an adult ticket to get an adult dining plan since their kid doesn't eat kid meals. They are paying the cost to get the perk.

I fail to see why this is even debatable as anything other than personal opinion on what is worth the cost and not worth cost. There is no scamming involved or anything even close to it.

 

[SharonS]

That might come into play if Disney stopped selling tickets to new people because it wrongly believed it had surpassed max attendance. But even then, the double-ticket buyer has still forked over an average of $50 - $60. And remember, that money is for nothing. Even with high margins, food and souvenirs cost Disney something. I'm betting that Disney would take the $60 bird-in-the-hand.

No, that money is NOT for nothing. They are paying to get more fast passes than they are entitled to with a single entry to the park.

 

[fairyprincess88]

No, that money is NOT for nothing. They are paying to get more fast passes than they are entitled to with a single entry to the park.

But it's not a single entry. The ticket would be for her daughter. Her daughter might be two but she is still a person. So instead of her daughter entering for free, she is willing to pay for said daughter. Ergo, she is paying for two people and getting the perks of two people. Disney is thereby getting money that before they wouldn't have gotten.

 

[TDC Nala]

Well, technically - as her daughter is 2 - instead of getting 3 fastpasses for Mom and 3 fastpasses for daughter, she's getting 6 passes for mom and daughter - as she intends to book six different FPs and just carry her daughter in, using Mom's MB to redeem 3 and daughter's MB to redeem 3, since kids under 3 aren't required to have their own FP redemption and the person at the scanners is not going to know that one ticket was purchased for the daughter.

Unless I'm wrong she will need to open a separate MDX account for her daughter and link her ticket to that.

 

[BuckeyeBama]

No, that money is NOT for nothing. They are paying to get more fast passes than they are entitled to with a single entry to the park.

Agreed - Right now there is clearly a problem that can be leveraged in the fact that the park entrance system does not share data with the FP+ system. I assume that this will be corrected at some point as it was with FP-.

That said, Disney knows about it.

Yes, you have to be willing to buy next year's tickets this year, so not everyone can do it, but with enough planning most probably could. They might choose not to, but they could.

 

[chrismb22]

But it's not a single entry. The ticket would be for her daughter. Her daughter might be two but she is still a person. So instead of her daughter entering for free, she is willing to pay for said daughter. Ergo, she is paying for two people and getting the perks of two people. Disney is thereby getting money that before they wouldn't have gotten.

I have the solution to this!! Let's start a KID SWAP thread. It would be for

people who are trying to scam by having a kid who just turned 3 say they are 2

to swap with

people who want the extra ticket

This way the money balances out. (It's called creative accounting )

Seriously, she isn't scamming and if that's what she wants to do (even if some of us find it silly so be it. Some people say I am silly for getting deluxe dining. I think it's awesome.

 

[AndreaA]

No, that money is NOT for nothing. They are paying to get more fast passes than they are entitled to with a single entry to the park.

First, that actually is, to Disney, "nothing". FP+ slots cost them nothing. Hundreds of them probably go unused every day, but they aren't counting that as a profit to the company - unlike, say, if they were giving out $5 gift cards to everyone and hundreds went unused. Second, you say that as if it's a bad thing. Each TICKET is entitled to 3 FP+ per day. There is nothing that says each PARK VISITOR is only entitled to 3 FP+ per day.

Put another way, suppose someone had a ticket, entered the park, did their three FP+, left at lunch and lost the ticket (we'll pretend there is absolutely no way of getting the info again, like back with paper tickets) and they had to buy ANOTHER ticket when they went back in the afternoon, and that ticket also had 3 FP+ allowed on it. Do you REALLY think that person should say to themselves, "Well, technically I already did my 3 rides, so I'd better not get any more FP+, because that would be wrong, even though I HAVE PAID FOR THEM."? Because that sounds crazy to me.

 

[mom2rtk]

It's not really that they don't WANT the repeaters there. They figure the repeaters will come anyway, whether they are the focus or not. So they are focusing on the first-timers, because first-timers usually spend more - whether out of desire to have the best time or because they don't know how to avoid it.

Enough repeaters would have to desert them for Universal or Sea World to prove them wrong.

I agree that it's a case of Disney taking the loyal repeaters for granted. But that's not the way many of those discussions have gone.

 

[fbb]

My FP+ strategy - leverage extra tickets.

I am going to WDW for 2 days in late April. I have a business trip to FL and will stay an extra 2 days on my dime while in the area to visit the World. I am bringing my wife's AP with me. She will be on my room reservation. Using both APs for FP+ reservations, I hope to have 6 FP+ each of those 2 days.

This is a great idea. I could never pull it off, though. My wife watches me too close.

 

[PaulaVonSchweetz]

But you'd still need to enter the parks with the tickets and fingerprint..... I don't see how that would work.

 

[WillAustin]

But you'd still need to enter the parks with the tickets and fingerprint..... I don't see how that would work.

They don't compare the scan with other people that have entered the park, just that it matches the ticket, if it's been used previously.

 

[jrt1176]

Again, we're talking about a two year old...

They aren't known for their patience, especially when excited, and don't understand the concept of money.

If they have the money and want to buy multiple tickets(if that strategy works), then good for them.

Personally, I'd try to go at a slower time. You can avoid most lines with attractions that a two year old would love...

Surely it would be better to try, rather than teach them that you can buy your way out of any problem?

 

[delmar411]

But you'd still need to enter the parks with the tickets and fingerprint..... I don't see how that would work.

You don't need to activate a ticket to use it for Fastpasses.