Resort Thread Disney's YACHT & BEACH CLUB Resorts

Hello BC/YC peeps. Long time lurker here that doesn't post much but totally appreciate all the knowledge and friendships too I've been privy to on this forum. You all are the best! So, after 3 YC stays, we are venturing over to the BC this summer (August) and we have a magical deal, which unfortunately means standard view. My question is, does anyone have those maps of the BC by floor/room numbers that I found her for the YC before? I googled and had no luck. I specifically was wondering if the BC has those rooms (4 maybe) with an extra large connected balcony over the front driveway like the YC has? But anyone with a map or advise for room requests, please fire away. We are a group of four generations, four rooms and are hoping to be close to the lobby for my mother. My daughter might not be happy if we end up with the juliet balcony but I just was ready for a refurbed room or we would have been still at YC as we really like the YC and the guarantee of a full balcony keeps the peace in our family. Thanks.
 
These new Hasbro versions of the Disney Princess dolls are winners for sure! They are so sweet and so true to the "real life" character version. The only problem that I can see is getting HockeyMom to put them down for a moment so that we can take a quick trip to the parks to ride the rides during our October-fest trip.

We will have to set a timer to get her to transition to a new activity away from the dolls and perhaps tempt her with a Sunken Treasure if she promises to come quietly. A challenge for any doll lover, I'm sure!!! If you see a grown woman running around the parks with a giant back pack filled with doll clothes and a stroller full of Disney Princess dolls it most likely will be HockeyMom.

~NM

Ha! Yes, I love these new dolls. Looking at them, their faces are beautiful! You are right, I do need them! I really do!

Maybe JanetMom will enjoy them too!
 
Just wanted to show off the start of my new collection at work. Absolutely loving the new designed princesses, they don't all look the same, and it helps me get thru my Disney blues :).

@Ninja Mom ....what do you think?

Disneyprincesses_zps77swsuex.jpg

Love them! Everything Ninja said is true. They are a wonderful improvement. What can I say, I love a good Disney doll!
 

Uber is sounding better and better all the time. Can I ask you, did you take the uber to the contemporary and walk to the MK?
We did!! The driver just dropped us off in the parking lot right after the guard shack and we walked on over. We actually did this twice :). I think out of the 12 times we used it we only paid twice, we did like Dee and I referred the others and then when we used their free ride I received a free ride. I think twice the rate was more than normal but it lets you know before you request a ride.
 
So, I asked this over on the Illuninations Cruise thread, but thought I'd ask here as well, since I know some of you have done the cruise.....

Anyone who has done an Illuminations cruise recently who is willing to share the price with me? Just called to check on availability for July 4th, as my husband hates crowds and I thought this would be a nice treat, and about died when I heard the price! She did say it was "holiday pricing" but it was nearly $1,000 after tax! Just wondered how that compared to the normal pricing, as last l heard they were about $325 pretax? Or is that really old information?? TIA!
 
Would love to be added to the BOG list for Nov 2016 :-) We're celebrating our dd's 21st b-day. Going to Universal, staying at Hard Rock Nov 6-10 then we are SO excited to be coming Nov 10-15 BC CL GV. Will be our first CL stay!

How fun that we get the last of Food & Wind AND the beginning of MVMCP!!
 
I specifically was wondering if the BC has those rooms (4 maybe) with an extra large connected balcony over the front driveway like the YC has?

The BC doesn't have any common balconies like the YC has. The best you could do is a ground level floor but as far as I know, none of the standard view rooms are on ground level. There are great places for families to gather at the BC and at the BCV's building, though, if your family wants places to gather. There is the Solarium at the Beach Club with lots of seating when they aren't having their afternoon tea parties. There are two rooms in the villas buildings which are nice, too. And of course there are the outdoor areas like the beach and the three pools, to gather.

We are staying in standard view rooms for our Oct and Dec trips so I was looking at the room locations on Touring Plans. I'm not sure how correct his maps are, but at least it gives me an idea of where the standard view rooms are. I just Googled it, I don't have a link to thw Touring Plans site.

But I do have a link to a very ancient and inaccurate floor map.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110709015029/http://www.disneyzone.net/bcresort.htm

I plan to request a full balcony for both of our trips and see what happens. I'm tempted to put close to elevator so that we don't get stuck at the YC end of the resort.
 
Would love to be added to the BOG list for Nov 2016 :-) We're celebrating our dd's 21st b-day. Going to Universal, staying at Hard Rock Nov 6-10 then we are SO excited to be coming Nov 10-15 BC CL GV. Will be our first CL stay!

How fun that we get the last of Food & Wind AND the beginning of MVMCP!!
OMG, that's similar to what we did last year! First time in Orlando we did HP then WDW for F&W and then MVMCP on our last night! It. Was. Awesome. I really had to convince my friend to spring for MVMCP but once we got there she was thrilled and told me over and over how glad she was I convinced her to do it. The only thing that would have made the trip better? Staying BC! (We were AKL, those bus rides got old fast.) You should have a wonderful trip! And CL? Well, now you've got a magical trip to remember indeed!
 
So, I asked this over on the Illuninations Cruise thread, but thought I'd ask here as well, since I know some of you have done the cruise.....

Anyone who has done an Illuminations cruise recently who is willing to share the price with me? Just called to check on availability for July 4th, as my husband hates crowds and I thought this would be a nice treat, and about died when I heard the price! She did say it was "holiday pricing" but it was nearly $1,000 after tax! Just wondered how that compared to the normal pricing, as last l heard they were about $325 pretax? Or is that really old information?? TIA!

I don't have the info you are looking for but I wanted to chime in and alert people that price gouging is the new Disney these days. We will continue to see excessive price increases, price stratification and up-charges for things that were previously included in your ticket (Extra magic hours) or (potentially TBD) resort offerings. I'm mentioning this because depending upon your family's budget, you may need to be prepared to lay out significantly more for food and beverages and possibly park entertainment if you are considering attending parties or special events. To wit, the food and beverage portion of Flower & Garden is said to be of such low quality and small portions as to hardly be worth the cost. Just about all of the mixed drinks are premixed and have very little alcohol in them despite the high price that a mixed drink typically commands.

Observers are also noticing a decrease in food quality. Food service CM's are reporting that cheaper provisions are being substituted in light of significant and repetitious price increases, especially for counter service offerings. The latest news is that Disney is no longer buying the bread from the bakery that supplied it for Tonga Toast and a definite decrease in quality is evident. Multiple reviews say the new Tonga Toast is dry, and has fewer bananas. How Disney can manage to screw up Tonga TOAST is just beyond me. It's not that difficult to procure a relatively low cost ingredient like quality bread, but Disney decided to save a few pennies and screw the customer, all in the unrelenting march to record profits.

One of the strategies that families can use is to purchase groceries for the room to substitute for Disney's higher and higher priced food offerings. I'm not a fan of garden grocer after a bad experience (fruit that was selected was very brown and withered) but there are other shopping services that people might recommend that can deliver to the resort. Bell services has refrigeration to keep your order cold so any items that may not fit in your room fridge at the beginning of your trip can be stored by bell services for use later in the week.

I am a fan of taking an UBER ride to the CLOSEST Walmart at 3250 Vineland rd. Kissimmee FL 34746 (phone: 1-407-397-1125) and doing my shopping that way. I can get pool noodles, liquor, fresh fruit and groceries as well as anything like a bathing suit for my husband who chronically forgets his. As far as UBER is concerned it's cheaper than a Mears Taxi and all you have to do is download the App in your phone and attach credit card information that they can use to charge you for the ride. No money changes hands, UBER just serves as the 3rd party to handle the credit card transaction. There is feedback offered so you can rate your driver and your driver can rate you. This weeds out the riff raff and the undesirables from participating in the Uber ride share network. I'm thinking that UBER is less than $14 one way to Walmart and a Mears taxi is around $20 one way.

Be aware that you can bring food into the parks and have a picnic lunch or dinner at a spot of your choosing. I bring Ziplock bags from home and when they are not filled with pretzel bread from the Biergarten buffet I fill them with ice from the resort to keep the sandwiches and drinks cold. I rent a locker at the park and keep lunch in there until we are ready to eat it. It's a lot easier than you would think and it's really fun to picnic at places like the train station in MK or Tom Sawyer's Island. Just pick your park and pick your spot.

final-638x700.jpg


http://blog.touringplans.com/2015/11/26/thanksgiving-magic-kingdom/

Also be aware that there is a Microwave for guest use in the BC Marketplace. It is a very powerful professional kitchen microwave so go easy when cooking something in it and check frequently on your food while using that microwave. I believe that you can also request a microwave for use in your room....


Concerning all the price increases and entertainment cuts evidenced in the parks in recent weeks, this article ( http://micechat.com/122782-disneyland-cutbacks/ ) pretty much lays out the reason for all the WDW poor decision making and flat out greed in recent weeks, soon to be months. The examples used are for Disneyland but the same conditions apply to WDW.

From the Mice Chat article: "Disney’s third fiscal quarter begins next week, and it’s about to wreak major changes on the operation of the Disneyland Resort. In this update we’ll fill you in on why Shanghai Disneyland is driving huge cutbacks here in the states, and how it will affect your visit this spring and possibly this summer as well.

Shanghai Disneyland is opening in about ten weeks, on June 16th, but it’s a park that is more than six months behind its original schedule and dramatically over budget. The local construction workers, contractors and many of the Chinese managerial staff Disney has been using to get the park built have all proven to have a very different work ethic than is found on big construction projects in Disney’s parks in America, Japan or France. The project has been struggling with endless delays and multiple facilities have had to be repeatedly fixed or rebuilt entirely due to the lack of attention to detail and unwillingness to follow WDI’s directions properly. Disney had publicly admitted last year that an additional $800 Million would be dedicated to the delayed project, but the extra costs associated with getting the park semi-ready to open by June have rocketed well beyond that number.


The result here at home is that Parks Chairman Bob Chapek and Disney CEO Bob Iger are now demanding that the rest of the Parks & Resorts division slash costs and reduce labor for the fiscal third quarter of April through June, in order to hide the impact Shanghai will have on Disney’s financial numbers it reports to Wall Street for this quarter.

Disneyland’s executive team is dutifully obeying the orders of their Burbank bosses, and the impacts have begun this week. Smaller attractions like the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail have begun closing several hours before park closing time, and the amount of time that even big attractions run at full capacity will be reduced. Rides like Casey Jr. and Storybook Land will reduce the number of trains and boats that are operating on even busy days, and the Red Car Trolley in DCA will drop to a one trolley operation instead of running both trolleys simultaneously. Many park stores will reduce the number of cashiers and stockers, and the Food & Beverage department is suddenly sourcing cheaper cuts of meat and cutting back on portions and extras, in addition to reducing bussers and cleaning staff.

Disneyland’s Entertainment department was asked to shave the most off its budget, and the result is that DCA will temporarily suspend its Pixar Play Parade for a month under the false narrative that it can’t operate during the Food & Wine Festival. Yesterday’s performance was the last Pixar Play Parade until early May. DCA simultaneously offered daily parades and the Food & Wine Festival during the last decade when the culinary event was much bigger, and it could easily do the same now with the scaled back offerings for the relaunched Food & Wine event.

But cancelling DCA’s parade was a way to save a bucket of cash for the Burbank bosses so that they could at least continue with the lavish 60th entertainment offerings each night over at Disneyland. The Mad T Party also ends tomorrow without a replacement, and TDA no longer has the money to mount a quick replacement offering. This has forced all the performers in DCA’s parade to scramble for outside work and new jobs since their jobs and paychecks have been put on hold for a month. These cuts come even with all the extra-cost upcharges and questionable VIP packages that the smaller Food & Wine event have, every extra dime must be sent to Burbank to pad the bottom line to make Shanghai look good.

But the biggest cutback of all will begin this Sunday. That’s when both parks will shave one to two hours off their usual operating day for this time of year. Beginning next week DCA will begin closing at 9:00 pm on every Friday, Saturday and Sunday through at least May, when it would normally close at 10:00 pm. And Disneyland will now close at 11:00 pm on Fridays and Sundays, saving the usual Midnight closings for only the busiest Saturdays this spring. The labor cutbacks at attractions and the cost cutting at stores and restaurants will continue even with these reduced park hours, for a one-two punch of sweeping labor cuts and reduced park hours.

Anaheim’s Cast Members are now seeing these changes show up on their schedules posted through early April, and have taken their angry commentary to Social Media with the hashtag #ThanksShanghai since it’s widely acknowledged that these are all cutbacks driven by the need to paper over the huge expenses being racked up by the troubled Shanghai property.

The reduced park operating hours will really put the squeeze on the parks, especially on Friday evenings and the warm spring weekends ahead. And yet DCA will be launching several big new offerings late this spring that will drive heavy AP attendance, right in the middle of all the cutbacks. The first is the new Frozen stage show that debuts Memorial Day weekend. The show will offer Fastpass, and demand is expected to be very strong for the first new show in the Hyperion Theatre in 13 years. But the Hyperion Theatre is getting in on the act to help Shanghai by allowing candy and soft drink sales for the first time inside the theater, with new cup holders being grafted onto the existing seats. TDA is looking for anything that can generate extra revenue to help the bottom line to assist in hiding the money pit in Shanghai.

Then on June 17th the new Soarin’ movie debuts in DCA, one day after it opens in Shanghai. The third fiscal quarter goes through June however, so the slashed labor and reduced offerings will still be in effect in Anaheim during the height of Summer crowds. If Shanghai opens to big attendance and glowing press, the Anaheim parks will be allowed to reinstate the slashed labor, operate the attractions at full capacity, and return to normal summertime operating hours with daily Midnight closings. Yesterday’s news that opening day tickets for June 16th sold out within hours are good sign, at least for the first few weeks. But if Shanghai opens in June to negative press that picks up on how many rides still aren’t ready to open and how many buildings and facilities are still obviously unfinished, which may cause Chinese visitors to delay their first visit, then Burbank would demand that the American parks continue their cutbacks through the end of the fiscal year in September.

Disney has always planned for and expected additional expenses when a new property opens, especially during the fiscal quarter in which it opens. And those expenses are dutifully noted in the quarterly report to Wall Street bankers and investors. But this is something entirely different and unprecedented, where all the other parks (except the Tokyo parks, which are owned by the Oriental Land Company) are cutting back and slashing hours regardless of how busy they are and how strong their own business is. Disney’s Shanghai property is majority owned either outright or via state-owned companies by the Chinese Communist Party, while Disney owns a minority share of the park, and it’s important for Bob Iger’s legacy that the Chinese Politburo is pleased with the opening and performance of the Shanghai park. And to ensure his legacy, Bob is willing to make the visitors to his American and French parks pay for all of Shanghai’s pre-opening failures and mistakes.

This current situation is simply a mess. If the grand opening goes well in Shanghai, the mess will only last from April through June, and Disneyland’s hours and daily operation will return to normal this Independence Day (ironically enough). But if Shanghai struggles out of the gate, or worse and does a DCA-like faceplant upon opening, then the cuts in Anaheim could get deeper and last longer than anyone in Burbank had planned. The American and French parks would be expected to prop up the Shanghai property for as long as it needs to find its footing. #ThanksShanghai"

~NM
 
Last edited:
To the moderator of this thread, can you remove us from the list of upcoming stays (we were booked at the BC standard view 8/16 - 8/25)?

I just found it difficult to justify the extra $900 over Pop Century, which is where we are now booked 8/23 - 9/1 (and hoping for free dining to come out maybe).

The magical deal was and is awesome, at $1900 for nine nights, but for $1000 we got Pop instead. I am spending way too much on medical bills here lately, and this trip was planned as a bonus mom/daughter getaway!

Thanks!

PS: I am sort of super envious of you folks booked at CL rooms here! Maybe next year for my 50th birthday!
 
I don't have the info you are looking for but I wanted to chime in and alert people that price gouging is the new Disney these days. We will continue to see excessive price increases, price stratification and up-charges for things that were previously included in your ticket (Extra magic hours) or (potentially TBD) resort offerings. I'm mentioning this because depending upon your family's budget, you may need to be prepared to lay out significantly more for food and beverages and possibly park entertainment if you are considering attending parties or special events. To wit, the food and beverage portion of Flower & Garden is said to be of such low quality and small portions as to hardly be worth the cost. Just about all of the mixed drinks are premixed and have very little alcohol in them despite the high price that a mixed drink typically commands.

Observers are also noticing a decrease in food quality. Food service CM's are reporting that cheaper provisions are being substituted in light of significant and repetitious price increases, especially for counter service offerings. The latest news is that Disney is no longer buying the bread from the bakery that supplied it for Tonga Toast and a definite decrease in quality is evident. Multiple reviews say the new Tonga Toast is dry, and has fewer bananas. How Disney can manage to screw up Tonga TOAST is just beyond me. It's not that difficult to procure a relatively low cost ingredient like quality bread, but Disney decided to save a few pennies and screw the customer, all in the unrelenting march to record profits.

One of the strategies that families can use is to purchase groceries for the room to substitute for Disney's higher and higher priced food offerings. I'm not a fan of garden grocer after a bad experience (fruit that was selected was very brown and withered) but there are other shopping services that people might recommend that can deliver to the resort. Bell services has refrigeration to keep your order cold so any items that may not fit in your room fridge at the beginning of your trip can be stored by bell services for use later in the week.

I am a fan of taking an UBER ride to the CLOSEST Walmart at 3250 Vineland rd. Kissimmee FL 34746 (phone: 1-407-397-1125) and doing my shopping that way. I can get pool noodles, liquor, fresh fruit and groceries as well as anything like a bathing suit for my husband who chronically forgets his. As far as UBER is concerned it's cheaper than a Mears Taxi and all you have to do is download the App in your phone and attach credit card information that they can use to charge you for the ride. No money changes hands, UBER just serves as the 3rd party to handle the credit card transaction. There is feedback offered so you can rate your driver and your driver can rate you. This weeds out the riff raff and the undesirables from participating in the Uber ride share network. I'm thinking that UBER is less than $14 one way to Walmart and a Mears taxi is around $20 one way.

Be aware that you can bring food into the parks and have a picnic lunch or dinner at a spot of your choosing. I bring Ziplock bags from home and when they are not filled with pretzel bread from the Biergarten buffet I fill them with ice from the resort to keep the sandwiches and drinks cold. I rent a locker at the park and keep lunch in there until we are ready to eat it. It's a lot easier than you would think and it's really fun to picnic at places like the train station in MK or Tom Sawyer's Island. Just pick your park and pick your spot.

final-638x700.jpg


http://blog.touringplans.com/2015/11/26/thanksgiving-magic-kingdom/

Also be aware that there is a Microwave for guest use in the BC Marketplace. It is a very powerful professional kitchen microwave so go easy when cooking something in it and check frequently on your food while using that microwave. I believe that you can also request a microwave for use in your room....


Concerning all the price increases and entertainment cuts evidenced in the parks in recent weeks, this article ( http://micechat.com/122782-disneyland-cutbacks/ ) pretty much lays out the reason for all the WDW poor decision making and flat out greed in recent weeks, soon to be months. The examples used are for Disneyland but the same conditions apply to WDW.

From the Mice Chat article: "Disney’s third fiscal quarter begins next week, and it’s about to wreak major changes on the operation of the Disneyland Resort. In this update we’ll fill you in on why Shanghai Disneyland is driving huge cutbacks here in the states, and how it will affect your visit this spring and possibly this summer as well.

Shanghai Disneyland is opening in about ten weeks, on June 16th, but it’s a park that is more than six months behind its original schedule and dramatically over budget. The local construction workers, contractors and many of the Chinese managerial staff Disney has been using to get the park built have all proven to have a very different work ethic than is found on big construction projects in Disney’s parks in America, Japan or France. The project has been struggling with endless delays and multiple facilities have had to be repeatedly fixed or rebuilt entirely due to the lack of attention to detail and unwillingness to follow WDI’s directions properly. Disney had publicly admitted last year that an additional $800 Million would be dedicated to the delayed project, but the extra costs associated with getting the park semi-ready to open by June have rocketed well beyond that number.


The result here at home is that Parks Chairman Bob Chapek and Disney CEO Bob Iger are now demanding that the rest of the Parks & Resorts division slash costs and reduce labor for the fiscal third quarter of April through June, in order to hide the impact Shanghai will have on Disney’s financial numbers it reports to Wall Street for this quarter.

Disneyland’s executive team is dutifully obeying the orders of their Burbank bosses, and the impacts have begun this week. Smaller attractions like the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail have begun closing several hours before park closing time, and the amount of time that even big attractions run at full capacity will be reduced. Rides like Casey Jr. and Storybook Land will reduce the number of trains and boats that are operating on even busy days, and the Red Car Trolley in DCA will drop to a one trolley operation instead of running both trolleys simultaneously. Many park stores will reduce the number of cashiers and stockers, and the Food & Beverage department is suddenly sourcing cheaper cuts of meat and cutting back on portions and extras, in addition to reducing bussers and cleaning staff.

Disneyland’s Entertainment department was asked to shave the most off its budget, and the result is that DCA will temporarily suspend its Pixar Play Parade for a month under the false narrative that it can’t operate during the Food & Wine Festival. Yesterday’s performance was the last Pixar Play Parade until early May. DCA simultaneously offered daily parades and the Food & Wine Festival during the last decade when the culinary event was much bigger, and it could easily do the same now with the scaled back offerings for the relaunched Food & Wine event.

But cancelling DCA’s parade was a way to save a bucket of cash for the Burbank bosses so that they could at least continue with the lavish 60th entertainment offerings each night over at Disneyland. The Mad T Party also ends tomorrow without a replacement, and TDA no longer has the money to mount a quick replacement offering. This has forced all the performers in DCA’s parade to scramble for outside work and new jobs since their jobs and paychecks have been put on hold for a month. These cuts come even with all the extra-cost upcharges and questionable VIP packages that the smaller Food & Wine event have, every extra dime must be sent to Burbank to pad the bottom line to make Shanghai look good.

But the biggest cutback of all will begin this Sunday. That’s when both parks will shave one to two hours off their usual operating day for this time of year. Beginning next week DCA will begin closing at 9:00 pm on every Friday, Saturday and Sunday through at least May, when it would normally close at 10:00 pm. And Disneyland will now close at 11:00 pm on Fridays and Sundays, saving the usual Midnight closings for only the busiest Saturdays this spring. The labor cutbacks at attractions and the cost cutting at stores and restaurants will continue even with these reduced park hours, for a one-two punch of sweeping labor cuts and reduced park hours.

Anaheim’s Cast Members are now seeing these changes show up on their schedules posted through early April, and have taken their angry commentary to Social Media with the hashtag #ThanksShanghai since it’s widely acknowledged that these are all cutbacks driven by the need to paper over the huge expenses being racked up by the troubled Shanghai property.

The reduced park operating hours will really put the squeeze on the parks, especially on Friday evenings and the warm spring weekends ahead. And yet DCA will be launching several big new offerings late this spring that will drive heavy AP attendance, right in the middle of all the cutbacks. The first is the new Frozen stage show that debuts Memorial Day weekend. The show will offer Fastpass, and demand is expected to be very strong for the first new show in the Hyperion Theatre in 13 years. But the Hyperion Theatre is getting in on the act to help Shanghai by allowing candy and soft drink sales for the first time inside the theater, with new cup holders being grafted onto the existing seats. TDA is looking for anything that can generate extra revenue to help the bottom line to assist in hiding the money pit in Shanghai.

Then on June 17th the new Soarin’ movie debuts in DCA, one day after it opens in Shanghai. The third fiscal quarter goes through June however, so the slashed labor and reduced offerings will still be in effect in Anaheim during the height of Summer crowds. If Shanghai opens to big attendance and glowing press, the Anaheim parks will be allowed to reinstate the slashed labor, operate the attractions at full capacity, and return to normal summertime operating hours with daily Midnight closings. Yesterday’s news that opening day tickets for June 16th sold out within hours are good sign, at least for the first few weeks. But if Shanghai opens in June to negative press that picks up on how many rides still aren’t ready to open and how many buildings and facilities are still obviously unfinished, which may cause Chinese visitors to delay their first visit, then Burbank would demand that the American parks continue their cutbacks through the end of the fiscal year in September.

Disney has always planned for and expected additional expenses when a new property opens, especially during the fiscal quarter in which it opens. And those expenses are dutifully noted in the quarterly report to Wall Street bankers and investors. But this is something entirely different and unprecedented, where all the other parks (except the Tokyo parks, which are owned by the Oriental Land Company) are cutting back and slashing hours regardless of how busy they are and how strong their own business is. Disney’s Shanghai property is majority owned either outright or via state-owned companies by the Chinese Communist Party, while Disney owns a minority share of the park, and it’s important for Bob Iger’s legacy that the Chinese Politburo is pleased with the opening and performance of the Shanghai park. And to ensure his legacy, Bob is willing to make the visitors to his American and French parks pay for all of Shanghai’s pre-opening failures and mistakes.

This current situation is simply a mess. If the grand opening goes well in Shanghai, the mess will only last from April through June, and Disneyland’s hours and daily operation will return to normal this Independence Day (ironically enough). But if Shanghai struggles out of the gate, or worse and does a DCA-like faceplant upon opening, then the cuts in Anaheim could get deeper and last longer than anyone in Burbank had planned. The American and French parks would be expected to prop up the Shanghai property for as long as it needs to find its footing. #ThanksShanghai"

~NM
This is exactly what easywdw blog said was happening now at WDW. Cuts were extremely noticeable at MK. Adjusting our plans to spending only am and early pm in the parks every day of our May trip just in case. Disappointing
 
At yahcht club I can verify 5163 does not have a balcony because I was in the room last weekend

Thanks for clarifying!!!

Awesome news on the bus sign, that thing is ENORMOUS! I used to work for a company that did gps signs like this and they were 10% of the size lol They are cool looking though!

So last night we PAID OFF our trip a month early!!!!!! One last thing to worry about :o) I refuse to give into all of the negativity, and cut backs and have the best trip ever. Since we are not "regulars" I doubt we will even notice any differences and will have a magical trip. I'm thinking it may be our last trip for a long time since my son is getting older and there are a lot of other places we would like to visit. Counting down the days and no turning back now! :)
 
I am so happy to finally ask to be added to the BOG list for May 19-22 for the Yacht Club. We booked a garden view room with the ap discount. I only asked to be a little closer to the elevator.

Last year we had to cancel our May trip due to a blood clot I had in my leg, so I am really looking forward to swimming in Storm Along Bay. Dh and I will also celebrate our anniv. and my b day when we are there.

I am going to miss talking to Teena. I havent been on the thread in such a long time and saw she retired.
 
To the moderator of this thread, can you remove us from the list of upcoming stays (we were booked at the BC standard view 8/16 - 8/25)?

I just found it difficult to justify the extra $900 over Pop Century, which is where we are now booked 8/23 - 9/1 (and hoping for free dining to come out maybe).

The magical deal was and is awesome, at $1900 for nine nights, but for $1000 we got Pop instead. I am spending way too much on medical bills here lately, and this trip was planned as a bonus mom/daughter getaway!

Thanks!

PS: I am sort of super envious of you folks booked at CL rooms here! Maybe next year for my 50th birthday!


Sure thing. Totally understandable.

Come on by anytime, and I really hope there is a Beach Club stay sometime in your future.

Have a fantastic trip!!!

Dee

:goodvibes
 
I don't have the info you are looking for but I wanted to chime in and alert people that price gouging is the new Disney these days. We will continue to see excessive price increases, price stratification and up-charges for things that were previously included in your ticket (Extra magic hours) or (potentially TBD) resort offerings. I'm mentioning this because depending upon your family's budget, you may need to be prepared to lay out significantly more for food and beverages and possibly park entertainment if you are considering attending parties or special events. To wit, the food and beverage portion of Flower & Garden is said to be of such low quality and small portions as to hardly be worth the cost. Just about all of the mixed drinks are premixed and have very little alcohol in them despite the high price that a mixed drink typically commands.

Observers are also noticing a decrease in food quality. Food service CM's are reporting that cheaper provisions are being substituted in light of significant and repetitious price increases, especially for counter service offerings. The latest news is that Disney is no longer buying the bread from the bakery that supplied it for Tonga Toast and a definite decrease in quality is evident. Multiple reviews say the new Tonga Toast is dry, and has fewer bananas. How Disney can manage to screw up Tonga TOAST is just beyond me. It's not that difficult to procure a relatively low cost ingredient like quality bread, but Disney decided to save a few pennies and screw the customer, all in the unrelenting march to record profits.

One of the strategies that families can use is to purchase groceries for the room to substitute for Disney's higher and higher priced food offerings. I'm not a fan of garden grocer after a bad experience (fruit that was selected was very brown and withered) but there are other shopping services that people might recommend that can deliver to the resort. Bell services has refrigeration to keep your order cold so any items that may not fit in your room fridge at the beginning of your trip can be stored by bell services for use later in the week.

I am a fan of taking an UBER ride to the CLOSEST Walmart at 3250 Vineland rd. Kissimmee FL 34746 (phone: 1-407-397-1125) and doing my shopping that way. I can get pool noodles, liquor, fresh fruit and groceries as well as anything like a bathing suit for my husband who chronically forgets his. As far as UBER is concerned it's cheaper than a Mears Taxi and all you have to do is download the App in your phone and attach credit card information that they can use to charge you for the ride. No money changes hands, UBER just serves as the 3rd party to handle the credit card transaction. There is feedback offered so you can rate your driver and your driver can rate you. This weeds out the riff raff and the undesirables from participating in the Uber ride share network. I'm thinking that UBER is less than $14 one way to Walmart and a Mears taxi is around $20 one way.

Be aware that you can bring food into the parks and have a picnic lunch or dinner at a spot of your choosing. I bring Ziplock bags from home and when they are not filled with pretzel bread from the Biergarten buffet I fill them with ice from the resort to keep the sandwiches and drinks cold. I rent a locker at the park and keep lunch in there until we are ready to eat it. It's a lot easier than you would think and it's really fun to picnic at places like the train station in MK or Tom Sawyer's Island. Just pick your park and pick your spot.

final-638x700.jpg


http://blog.touringplans.com/2015/11/26/thanksgiving-magic-kingdom/

Also be aware that there is a Microwave for guest use in the BC Marketplace. It is a very powerful professional kitchen microwave so go easy when cooking something in it and check frequently on your food while using that microwave. I believe that you can also request a microwave for use in your room....


Concerning all the price increases and entertainment cuts evidenced in the parks in recent weeks, this article ( http://micechat.com/122782-disneyland-cutbacks/ ) pretty much lays out the reason for all the WDW poor decision making and flat out greed in recent weeks, soon to be months. The examples used are for Disneyland but the same conditions apply to WDW.

From the Mice Chat article: "Disney’s third fiscal quarter begins next week, and it’s about to wreak major changes on the operation of the Disneyland Resort. In this update we’ll fill you in on why Shanghai Disneyland is driving huge cutbacks here in the states, and how it will affect your visit this spring and possibly this summer as well.

Shanghai Disneyland is opening in about ten weeks, on June 16th, but it’s a park that is more than six months behind its original schedule and dramatically over budget. The local construction workers, contractors and many of the Chinese managerial staff Disney has been using to get the park built have all proven to have a very different work ethic than is found on big construction projects in Disney’s parks in America, Japan or France. The project has been struggling with endless delays and multiple facilities have had to be repeatedly fixed or rebuilt entirely due to the lack of attention to detail and unwillingness to follow WDI’s directions properly. Disney had publicly admitted last year that an additional $800 Million would be dedicated to the delayed project, but the extra costs associated with getting the park semi-ready to open by June have rocketed well beyond that number.


The result here at home is that Parks Chairman Bob Chapek and Disney CEO Bob Iger are now demanding that the rest of the Parks & Resorts division slash costs and reduce labor for the fiscal third quarter of April through June, in order to hide the impact Shanghai will have on Disney’s financial numbers it reports to Wall Street for this quarter.

Disneyland’s executive team is dutifully obeying the orders of their Burbank bosses, and the impacts have begun this week. Smaller attractions like the Redwood Creek Challenge Trail have begun closing several hours before park closing time, and the amount of time that even big attractions run at full capacity will be reduced. Rides like Casey Jr. and Storybook Land will reduce the number of trains and boats that are operating on even busy days, and the Red Car Trolley in DCA will drop to a one trolley operation instead of running both trolleys simultaneously. Many park stores will reduce the number of cashiers and stockers, and the Food & Beverage department is suddenly sourcing cheaper cuts of meat and cutting back on portions and extras, in addition to reducing bussers and cleaning staff.

Disneyland’s Entertainment department was asked to shave the most off its budget, and the result is that DCA will temporarily suspend its Pixar Play Parade for a month under the false narrative that it can’t operate during the Food & Wine Festival. Yesterday’s performance was the last Pixar Play Parade until early May. DCA simultaneously offered daily parades and the Food & Wine Festival during the last decade when the culinary event was much bigger, and it could easily do the same now with the scaled back offerings for the relaunched Food & Wine event.

But cancelling DCA’s parade was a way to save a bucket of cash for the Burbank bosses so that they could at least continue with the lavish 60th entertainment offerings each night over at Disneyland. The Mad T Party also ends tomorrow without a replacement, and TDA no longer has the money to mount a quick replacement offering. This has forced all the performers in DCA’s parade to scramble for outside work and new jobs since their jobs and paychecks have been put on hold for a month. These cuts come even with all the extra-cost upcharges and questionable VIP packages that the smaller Food & Wine event have, every extra dime must be sent to Burbank to pad the bottom line to make Shanghai look good.

But the biggest cutback of all will begin this Sunday. That’s when both parks will shave one to two hours off their usual operating day for this time of year. Beginning next week DCA will begin closing at 9:00 pm on every Friday, Saturday and Sunday through at least May, when it would normally close at 10:00 pm. And Disneyland will now close at 11:00 pm on Fridays and Sundays, saving the usual Midnight closings for only the busiest Saturdays this spring. The labor cutbacks at attractions and the cost cutting at stores and restaurants will continue even with these reduced park hours, for a one-two punch of sweeping labor cuts and reduced park hours.

Anaheim’s Cast Members are now seeing these changes show up on their schedules posted through early April, and have taken their angry commentary to Social Media with the hashtag #ThanksShanghai since it’s widely acknowledged that these are all cutbacks driven by the need to paper over the huge expenses being racked up by the troubled Shanghai property.

The reduced park operating hours will really put the squeeze on the parks, especially on Friday evenings and the warm spring weekends ahead. And yet DCA will be launching several big new offerings late this spring that will drive heavy AP attendance, right in the middle of all the cutbacks. The first is the new Frozen stage show that debuts Memorial Day weekend. The show will offer Fastpass, and demand is expected to be very strong for the first new show in the Hyperion Theatre in 13 years. But the Hyperion Theatre is getting in on the act to help Shanghai by allowing candy and soft drink sales for the first time inside the theater, with new cup holders being grafted onto the existing seats. TDA is looking for anything that can generate extra revenue to help the bottom line to assist in hiding the money pit in Shanghai.

Then on June 17th the new Soarin’ movie debuts in DCA, one day after it opens in Shanghai. The third fiscal quarter goes through June however, so the slashed labor and reduced offerings will still be in effect in Anaheim during the height of Summer crowds. If Shanghai opens to big attendance and glowing press, the Anaheim parks will be allowed to reinstate the slashed labor, operate the attractions at full capacity, and return to normal summertime operating hours with daily Midnight closings. Yesterday’s news that opening day tickets for June 16th sold out within hours are good sign, at least for the first few weeks. But if Shanghai opens in June to negative press that picks up on how many rides still aren’t ready to open and how many buildings and facilities are still obviously unfinished, which may cause Chinese visitors to delay their first visit, then Burbank would demand that the American parks continue their cutbacks through the end of the fiscal year in September.

Disney has always planned for and expected additional expenses when a new property opens, especially during the fiscal quarter in which it opens. And those expenses are dutifully noted in the quarterly report to Wall Street bankers and investors. But this is something entirely different and unprecedented, where all the other parks (except the Tokyo parks, which are owned by the Oriental Land Company) are cutting back and slashing hours regardless of how busy they are and how strong their own business is. Disney’s Shanghai property is majority owned either outright or via state-owned companies by the Chinese Communist Party, while Disney owns a minority share of the park, and it’s important for Bob Iger’s legacy that the Chinese Politburo is pleased with the opening and performance of the Shanghai park. And to ensure his legacy, Bob is willing to make the visitors to his American and French parks pay for all of Shanghai’s pre-opening failures and mistakes.

This current situation is simply a mess. If the grand opening goes well in Shanghai, the mess will only last from April through June, and Disneyland’s hours and daily operation will return to normal this Independence Day (ironically enough). But if Shanghai struggles out of the gate, or worse and does a DCA-like faceplant upon opening, then the cuts in Anaheim could get deeper and last longer than anyone in Burbank had planned. The American and French parks would be expected to prop up the Shanghai property for as long as it needs to find its footing. #ThanksShanghai"

~NM

I have thought about this post most of the afternoon.
I have spent many, many months here enjoying NM's wacky, zany, uplifting and fun posts here on the YC/BC thread. They help to make it one of the most positive, friendly forums on all of the DIS. I looked forward to reading a NM post.
The level of negativity expressed here saddens me.
I agree. Things are not good at WDW right now. I don't like it either. But for NM to be so vocal in this way is not good., for her or for this thread IMHO. I am not trying to be either critical or judge mental. I am just bothered and saddened to read this.
NM, I hope you find a happier space soon.
 












Receive up to $1,000 in Onboard Credit and a Gift Basket!
That’s right — when you book your Disney Cruise with Dreams Unlimited Travel, you’ll receive incredible shipboard credits to spend during your vacation!
CLICK HERE






DIS Facebook DIS youtube DIS Instagram DIS Pinterest DIS Tiktok DIS Twitter DIS Bluesky

Back
Top Bottom