Disneys Hollywood Studios about to change forever

[circus4u]

Yes but, it's much much bigger, and has differences, both have HMs but are different, both have pirates but both are different etc.

They really aren't that much different. There are many attractions shared between DL and WDW, Small World, Big Thunder Mountain, Splash Mtn, etc. There were also similar rides that have been lost to one or the other park over the years; the submarines, Country Bear, to name a couple. It doesn't bother me at all if the same or similar rides are shared between the parks.

They say that DL guests are mainly local, so really, what difference does it make. I am not really a fan of DL even though it is much closer to me, too claustrophobic for me. My preference would be to have similar rides in both parks; I don't think it would hurt the attendance at either park since they are supposedly targeted at different markets.

 

[skier_pete]

Rumors have been floating around about this for close to two years, but while I'm usually on the side of the optimists, I'm going to say that it seems people have WAAAYYY to high hopes for this.

Just because they are closing the Backlot tour doesn't mean something is going to be announced right away or even in the near future. I am certainly hopeful we'll hear something, but visions of Jedis and Lamps aren't spinning in my head. And even if they announce it, you can bet it's at LEAST three years off.

For the people thinking of canceling their trip, that's a tough one. The stuff that's closed is mostly not something that you will particularly miss. The big question is, would you rather wait for all the stuff to open. But if it takes 3-4 years, are your kids missing out.

I would say on balance to go when you originally planned. MK and Epcot will be without any noticable construction. Some of AK will have walls, but there is really nothing there that's closed down, so you won't miss it there. And even at DHS, they haven't actually closed anything GOOD, and you can bet they will do everything they can to keep the other rides open. As PP pointed out, we also go 10 days at a pop every year and still find new things to try.

It will give you the opportunity to go back again in 3-4 years and see a bunch of new stuff.

 

[Scottishbrit]

Carsland?

That's all we have! Disneyland is small, out dated, SUPER crowded, WAY behind times on just about everything. There's no room for expansion or a new park since the city wont give them anymore land.

 

[jcnewton]

That's all we have! Disneyland is small, out dated, SUPER crowded, WAY behind times on just about everything. There's no room for expansion or a new park since the city wont give them anymore land.

That was something that put me off during my trip to DL a few years ago. You're in a Disney park...but as soon as you leave, you're pretty much in the middle of Anaheim. Whereas, in WDW, you're on Disney property for miles...with room to spare. DL doesn't look like it has any room for new stuff without replacing the old.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

That was something that put me off during my trip to DL a few years ago. You're in a Disney park...but as soon as you leave, you're pretty much in the middle of Anaheim. Whereas, in WDW, you're on Disney property for miles...with room to spare. DL doesn't look like it has any room for new stuff without replacing the old.

Lol...
You stumbled upon the entire idea behind Disney world there, huh?

Disneyland is boxed in because the area around it was bought immediately...leading to the massive land purchase and secrecy in Orlando in 1964.

 

[rteetz]

That was something that put me off during my trip to DL a few years ago. You're in a Disney park...but as soon as you leave, you're pretty much in the middle of Anaheim. Whereas, in WDW, you're on Disney property for miles...with room to spare. DL doesn't look like it has any room for new stuff without replacing the old.

Disneyland was built in the 50s. It was the theme park that started everything for Disney. Disneyland was Walt's greatest idea in many peoples opinions. Without it we wouldn't have WDW. When Disneyland opened it was a mess problems everywhere, after a few years the problems were settled and Walt knew he could do better therefore the idea for WDW was born. Walt created fake companies to go and purchase land in Florida. Walt's original idea of WDW was much much more than just theme parks and hotels. Walt's original idea of WDW is nowhere near what we have today. There is a reason for Disneyland being so small and really think about this. Disneyland has two parks, those two parks have more attractions than WDW's 4 parks have combined. Universal has the same problem Disneyland has not as much expansion room.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Universal has the same problem Disneyland has not as much expansion room.

In many ways a testament to wdw...as universal was built landlocked specifically... As all they really cared about was getting close enough to Disney to siphon off business.

Now that UOR has a deep pocketed owner that cares... They will continue to use technology to carve Into Disney's size advantage. As we have seen.

But remember regarding Disneyland... They
Didnt have enough money so they had to sacrifice. That is nowhere near the case now.

In a way, mk is not a clone of Disneyland...but more closely a revised idea of what the concept could have been.

Tokyo Disney is a clone of mk... And euro, Hong Kong a bit of a twist on clones.

Shanghai is reportedly not a clone...and they are putting major money and effort into that. It will be Interesting to see.

But wdw gets north of 50 million visitors a year...so they're no need to redo the living room...
Just occasionally change the curtains.

 

[rteetz]

In many ways a testament to wdw...as universal was built landlocked specifically... As all they really cared about was getting close enough to Disney to siphon off business. Now that UOR has a deep pocketed owner that cares... They will continue to use technology to carve Into Disney's size advantage. As we have seen. But remember regarding Disneyland... They Didnt have enough money so they had to sacrifice. That is nowhere near the case now. In a way, mk is not a clone of Disneyland...but more closely a revised idea of what the concept could have been. Tokyo Disney is a clone of mk... And euro, Hong Kong a bit of a twist on clones. Shanghai is reportedly not a clone...and they are putting major money and effort into that. It will be Interesting to see. But wdw gets north of 50 million visitors a year...so they're no need to redo the living room... Just occasionally change the curtains.

I couldn't agree more. UOR just uses the space they have and is doing big things. WDW still gets huge amounts of people even if they don't do anything. Tokyo is a bit of a different case it's a clone but has many differences, and has different owners that like pristine parks. Shanghai is supposed to be an amazing park from what has been said. The castle is going to be the biggest disney has ever done and it will have an attraction and a restaurant. Asia is where Disney can make money right now so their going to do it. I've even heard rumors of expansions coming soon to Hong Kong.

 

[JoeyEmmaMomma]

Awesome. I'm all for new attractions or upgrades.
I'd love updates for preschoolers at DHS though.

 

[luisov]

That's all we have! Disneyland is small, out dated, SUPER crowded, WAY behind times on just about everything. There's no room for expansion or a new park since the city wont give them anymore land.

And yet DLR doesn't have as many broken animatronics and is the park that is receiving all the major ride updates (BTMRR, Alice, Peter Pan, etc.) It sure is much smaller than WDW, but their existing attractions seem to be better maintained than WDW's.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

And yet DLR doesn't have as many broken animatronics and is the park that is receiving all the major ride updates (BTMRR, Alice, Peter Pan, etc.) It sure is much smaller than WDW, but their existing attractions seem to be better maintained than WDW's.

Noticed that, huh?

Easy to get service when you are located a stones throw from fancy buildings with characters carved Into them in anaheim and Burbank, huh?

I can't believe it again...but I have to defend Eisner here.
He and Iger have similar east coast background and early careers in TV...
But Eisner had a broader scope and remained an east coast centric guy...
Iger is a "TV man" through and through... Which means it only about Hollywood. It's only about IP. And it's only about squeezing the life out of your money lines.
And those money lines are old money in Florida, new money in china, and ridiculously overpriced money in IP for movie screens and TV that end up in walmart.

I think the problem is much high up the food chain than the neglect that is now standard in Orlando.

 

[rteetz]

And yet DLR doesn't have as many broken animatronics and is the park that is receiving all the major ride updates (BTMRR, Alice, Peter Pan, etc.) It sure is much smaller than WDW, but their existing attractions seem to be better maintained than WDW's.

If they didn't locals would uproar

 

[Scottishbrit]

That was something that put me off during my trip to DL a few years ago. You're in a Disney park...but as soon as you leave, you're pretty much in the middle of Anaheim. Whereas, in WDW, you're on Disney property for miles...with room to spare. DL doesn't look like it has any room for new stuff without replacing the old.

Ya Anaheim aka Anaslim isn't the best city. And since DCA didn't do to well they are to afraid to open a new park and the city wont give them anymore land. They have a space somewhat close by but not enough for a "park".

 

[Scottishbrit]

And yet DLR doesn't have as many broken animatronics and is the park that is receiving all the major ride updates (BTMRR, Alice, Peter Pan, etc.) It sure is much smaller than WDW, but their existing attractions seem to be better maintained than WDW's.

You think? I see a lot they need to fix, paint, replace, etc...They need to update some of their rides to ( submarines, the ride is rarely open and when it's on rehab it's closed for months!).

 

[luisov]

You think? I see a lot they need to fix, paint, replace, etc...They need to update some of their rides to ( submarines, the ride is rarely open and when it's on rehab it's closed for months!).

Well, DL is not Tokyo DL, that's for sure, but I've always thought that one of DL's perks is that it's better maintained than any of WDW parks. Perhaps DW's big scope is one of the reasons. However, it's true that DL will never have something that DW has: Space to expand. While DL will have to sacrifice some of its biggest rides to make space for new ones in the long run, DW has the freedom to do whatever they want.

 

[rteetz]

Ya Anaheim aka Anaslim isn't the best city. And since DCA didn't do to well they are to afraid to open a new park and the city wont give them anymore land. They have a space somewhat close by but not enough for a "park".

They do have room if they build parking structures this has been said before

 

[rteetz]

You think? I see a lot they need to fix, paint, replace, etc...They need to update some of their rides to ( submarines, the ride is rarely open and when it's on rehab it's closed for months!).

The submarines is a very hard ride to maintain and the paint and mechanics have many problems that's why the rehab is so long. Disneyland is much much more maintained and kept up then WDW. I really don't get the negativity. They got rid of the subs in WDW for a reason and they almost closed this last time in Disneyland except other brought them back.

 

[faneuil]

It occurred to me this week while driving down Osceola...

What will become of Earful Tower?

I know it's silly, but I love the water tower - more than the attraction.

 

[rteetz]

It occurred to me this week while driving down Osceola... What will become of Earful Tower? I know it's silly, but I love the water tower - more than the attraction.

That's not going to go anywhere it is a park icon. It's in an area that is near buildings that are used for everyday things for the parks. I would assume the prop areas would go but costuming and those types of buildings are going to stay because they are actually used for things all around the parks. Earful tower is very popular it's on a lot of merchandise as well.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

It occurred to me this week while driving down Osceola...

What will become of Earful Tower?

I know it's silly, but I love the water tower - more than the attraction.

That's actually a much more interesting question than I would have thought at first.

The hat is gonna go the way of the dodo... It's only a matter of time. If there is a major renovation...i expect the crane to make short work of it.

The theater isn't an icon... For one reason or another...legal is the predominant thought.

I would think the tower could be moved if necessary...but they haven't really embraced that as an icon in years. I think they associate it with the failed studio.

The tower (of terror) could be...but I bet that would involve paying more money to CBS...which I'm sure isn't welcome.

Or...dear god please... Maybe we get a "new"
One in the blue sky somewhere?