lucysmom -- I am so glad to hear that your husband is on the mend after a trying couple of weeks.

I hope that you can get some of your Christmas joy back and manage to have a good trip. Sometimes it seems that holiday trips -- especially to DLR -- should be the last thing on our minds when "real life" gets in the way and we have very urgent worries and troubles. At the same time, I know that these trips for many people -- especially during the holidays -- can make all the difference in having something fun and positive to plan for and look forward to.
TK -- Drat that silly Slow Churned nonsense! Why must it keep rearing its head when it is clearly so inferior?
I am not kidding myself into thinking there will be any Grand left in any of my stores beyond next week. I think that all of the secret peppermint ice cream fans have realized that the Grand is better and they are all doing what I did -- snapping up multiple cartons at one time so they don't miss out. And the stores are probably not getting in anymore of the ice cream in stock after the stash is depleted.
I was just admiring the nice, vibrant pink color of the "real" ice cream -- which is something the Slow Churned doesn't have (it's pink, but not as pink).
pattyduke34 & JediMasterNerd -- You have each earned another entry into the random draw for posting the great Cars Land shots! I think that this coming Monday's theme is going to stump some people, while others may have more pictures to fit the theme than they realized they had. It should be interesting to see what people come up with.
Even more interesting will be to see if people can rise to the challenge and get the mini-daily theme photos posted in time when we launch into the rapid fire round on Tuesday! Yes, I am making it harder in the final stretch! Muahahahahahaha!!
Okay, yesterday I chatted for a long, long time on the phone with a delightful CM at DLR (I don't know if she wants me to mention her name so I won't, but she was very nice). I called about one thing but we ended up discussing all things
Disneyland during the holiday season and Halloween Time, etc.
I'm sure we all know that some CMs are more informed about what is happening in the parks than others, and some of them seem to be clueless. Often times they are the last to know what is going on! The CM with whom I spoke yesterday happened to be a performer in the Candlelight Ceremony at DL last year. So I prodded her for more info about the aftermath of the 20-night run and the possible future of the Ceremony. Some highlights from what she told me (and some of it is what she knows for sure, as well as what she
thinks or
supposes, but is not necessarily confirmed):
- The Candlelight Ceremony/Processional (or "CP") of 2012. Disney's initial plan in 2012 was, indeed, to "test run" the Candlelight Ceremony by having it on 20 nights, and IF it had been a success on different levels Disney had planned to expand it to even more nights (as is the case at WDW) and make it an annual thing.
- What was the aftermath of the CP of 2012? Not only did Main Street suffer a bit from people not wanting or being able to get into the shops to buy things around the times of the CP, but the aftermath of the 20-night CP was what told the tale. Guests complained loudly to Guest Services/Communications/Relations about the crowds or the fear of crowds in Town Square and Disney listened. Ultimately, those Guest complaints made a difference and Disney decided there was no way they could have the CP in Town Square for more than 2 or 3 nights in the future because the ongoing gridlock and traffic is too much to deal with. Even some of the CMs had a hard time getting around Town Square. (I didn't find it to be all that bad on my nights last year, but I guess it was worse on other nights.)
- The CP in Fantasyland? The CM told me that the CP was attempted in Fantasyland a long time ago, but there were some issues with seating in that spot and it wasn't ideal, for some reason. So she thought that if Disney were to try a multi-night CP again at DLR it would not be in Fantasyland.
- The CP in Frontierland?? The CM said that she actually thought they could have the CP in the Big Thunder Ranch/Jingle Jangle Jamboree area and it could work well, with minimal set-up (there are a lot of things already in place back there that could facilitate a CP), and the outdoor intimate feeling of the show could remain intact. She thinks that Disney doesn't want to put the CP back in the Big Thunder Ranch area because it's too far removed from the main hub of activity and people may not want to walk all the way back there to see it, or may not know it's there.
- The CP in California Adventure? The CM said that the most likely place for the CP to end up in the future (but no one knows when) would be the Hyperion, and that will only be once Aladdin is gone for good or on hiatus for a long time. The feeling/mood of the CP would change, but it would work well in terms of seating and staging and all of that. (So if we ever hear about Aladdin taking a long, long break or disappearing forever, it might mean that a CP will pop up at the Hyperion for the holidays.)
- What about a Christmas party down the road? The CM thinks that Disney is thinking long and hard about the possibility of a Christmas party. She thinks that they wanted to sort of copy WDW at first, but more feedback started coming in (namely, from CMs and other Disney employees) to indicate that a lot of people didn't think a party would work at DLR as well as it does at WDW. Everyone seems to agree that the Halloween party is different and it works for different reasons, but a Christmas party would be a whole separate kettle of fish -- especially when Disneyland's visitor base is still mostly comprised of locals or people who live close enough to visit a few times a year, and if those people balked at the idea of a party it would make a difference to Disney/DLR.
- Will Disney test run a party? The CM thinks that Disney may decide to do another one of their "test runs" and try out a Christmas party for multiple nights, just to see what the feedback is and how it goes, but it won't be without a lot of thought and planning put into it first. She said that she does not think Disney will try to test out a party or launch it in the year of DL's 60th anniversary (2015) -- which surprised me, as I thought that 2015 might be a year when they would attempt such a thing.
She thinks that IF they decide to go forward with testing out a party it will either be in 2014 or in 2016, and she agreed that July or August are good months to make major schedule/event announcements for the holidays, so if we don't hear about a party by the end of August it probably is not happening that year. She said she and other CMs thought the party was happening this year, and they, too, were shocked when August came and went without an announcement.
- Why are the hotels not decorated when the season officially starts? The 2 parks and World of Disney in DTD are "expected" to be decorated on the first official day of the season, but the hotels are thought of more as like "home" -- and "most people don't decorate their homes for the holidays until after Thanksgiving."
- Since Thanksgiving is so late this year, and because it coincides with the first day of Hanukkah, is there a chance that the hotel decorations could go up a bit early? The CM said that it is possible that the decorations at the hotels could go up a few days early because of the late Thanksgiving, but probably not more than a few days early -- if at all. However, this is one of those cases in which -- if enough people complain to Guest Services about it -- Disney may try to make sure the hotels are decorated at the same time as the parks in the future, or at least closer to it.
- Why the crazy scheduling? Some things begin on 11/8; some things begin on 11/11; some things begin on 11/12; and some things begin on 11/15? No definitive answer, but many probable answers. Disney apparently doesn't like to "officially" start its holiday season before the Christmas parade taping has taken place, and preferably not on or before Veterans Day if it can be helped (though there are some occasions when it may be necessary). Although, they know that Veterans Day weekend crowds will be there so they try to open/start a few things early to treat the holiday weekend crowds. And...certain things have to be in place before the season officially begins, just because of logistics.
Also, November 15th seemed too late to start the season. Halloween Time gets about 7 weeks of the schedule devoted to it, and the Holidays -- which are a much bigger 'production' at DLR -- need to get at least that much time, but closer to 8 weeks if it can be pulled off (which may differ from year to year).
- So...Why the snow on the Castle in October? Some things need to go up even before Halloween Time ends. There is no way to get the parks fully decorated (we're including inside all of the shops and restaurants too) between November 1 and when the parade taping takes place without hiring a lot of extra people or working during park hours. It's too big of a task. It is necessary to put certain things up before Halloween Time ends, and Disney tries to do it in a way that makes sense, or that 'tells a story,' if you will. In other words, the snow on the Castle is there to sort of tell a tale of the seasons changing and light snowfall appearing in the magical location of this Castle, hinting at the wondrous holiday season that is to come. Also, the CM said that there are certain parts of the U.S. that begin to see snow in October, so it is not out of the question for snow to appear in America or Europe!
I realized the CM was right in much of what she said -- in "real life," seasons don't abruptly change. Well, the dates on the calendar change, but the weather doesn't abruptly change for most people as soon as, say, September 22nd hits, or December 21st hits, or whatever. The actual seasons transition, gradually -- sometimes a little more rapidly than in other years, and sometimes a little more slowly. So in "real life" it's not like snow would or should appear as soon as Halloween (10/31) is over, and not as soon as Thanksgiving is over either! Snow will happen when it happens. Rain will happen when it happens! So if we look at the snow appearing on the Castle during Halloween Time in that way, in that context, it makes sense. Disney is trying to do a bit of a gradual transitioning of the seasons rather than an abrupt switch.
Basically, if any holiday decor has to go up before Halloween Time ends, it makes a lot more sense to put up the snow than it does to put Christmas trees in the window displays or at the Carnival/Jamboree/Ranch.
- The CMs who decorate take a break when the season officially begins! Apparently, the teams of CMs and other Disney employees who put the holiday season together for all of us to enjoy with their diligent after-hours efforts in decorating, etc., are exhausted by the time the season officially starts and many of them take their vacations then (of course they get back from their vacations in time to tackle the Thanksgiving crowds and December crowds)!