Disney Weight Loss 2

[tower_of_terror_luvr]

Yes u should eat more than two meals 2 lose but u shuldnt eat five. I have a teen weightloss book it says the 5 little meals a day works better for adults and that teens it should be three square meals a day

 

[Fatphil32]

-eat negative calorie foods for snacks like apples and celery.

What is a negative calorie food?

 

[Disney Dork]

What is a negative calorie food?

A negative calorie food is a food that is so low in calories, that it actually takes more energy/calories to chew and digest it than is actually found in the food itself. So you actually end up losing calories rather than gaining them. A lot of fruit and vegetables are like that actually, but in order for it to work you have to eat them completely plain and raw.

No cooking. No added flavoring/dressings. Nothing.

 

[Fatphil32]

A negative calorie food is a food that is so low in calories, that it actually takes more energy/calories to chew and digest it than is actually found in the food itself. So you actually end up losing calories rather than gaining them. A lot of fruit and vegetables are like that actually, but in order for it to work you have to eat them completely plain and raw.

No cooking. No added flavoring/dressings. Nothing.

There's no such thing as a food that can actually have a negative impact on calories. The only thing thing that's possible to do that is something that's 100% cellulose or water. And cellulose cannot be broken down by the body, which is why it'd have no impact on caloric intake.

A medium-sized apple typically is about 72 calories. While a good amount of those calories will be burnt, it's not going to result in a loss of calories. Also, it contains a high GI rating, so it's going to cause insulin to spike, thus stopping the fat-burning process and starting the fat-storing. Fruit has to be kept minimal if you are serious about losing fat. Don't cut it out completely, as it has essential vitamins and nutrients, but don't over-do-it.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Wow, the revised Atkins actually is healthy... I'm kind of surprised. Basically what it's doing is, taking out the carbs until you start to reach optimal weight, then slowly reintroducing them. Then eventually, they'll become part of your lifestyle again. And butter is actually healthy. Just make sure under the ingredients section it does not list partially hydrogenated oil. That's keyword for hidden trans fat. It's what is in any kind of peanut butter that's not natural. It will hinder fat loss.

Also, the whole lose weight in 14 days thing with them is such a marketing tool. I can garuntee you anyone who is eating carbs right now that will go onto that diet will lose weight immedaitely. That's because with only 20g of a carbs per day, you're body isn't going to store much water weight. With my low-carb diet, I lost six pounds in the first two days, all in water weight.

Yes, I know all that. I'm not excited about the weight loss in the first two weeks, as I know it's water and could be gained back immediately.

I haven't started Atkins yet, and today I was browsing the bookstore and found a South Beach Diet book. Out of curiousity I bought it. I know it's similiar to Atkins as it focuses on carbs, but not much more. Since you seem to know a lot about dieting, I thought I'd ask. Do you know much about the SBD?

 

[Fatphil32]

Yes, I know all that. I'm not excited about the weight loss in the first two weeks, as I know it's water and could be gained back immediately.

I haven't started Atkins yet, and today I was browsing the bookstore and found a South Beach Diet book. Out of curiousity I bought it. I know it's similiar to Atkins as it focuses on carbs, but not much more. Since you seem to know a lot about dieting, I thought I'd ask. Do you know much about the SBD?

I got a quick glimpse of the South Beach Diet book one time and gathered what information I could. Basically, it's the same as the Atkins diet, except it has a slight variation. Atkins seeks to completely remove any possibility of insulin spikes [where your body can enter "fat-storing" mode], while South Beach diet seems to control the spikes at the beginning of both diets. For fat loss, Atkins is probably superior. South Beach isn't very structured and I'd fine it easy to overeat on it. The main problem is, weight loss is all about calories consumed vs. calories used. Without any structure, SB may lead to eating many more calories than neccesary. But, after the introduction phase of both, they become very similar. Both re-introduce low-GI carbs slowly, eventually allowing them, along with fruit to be an everyday thing.

Both diets seem pretty good for just a typical dieter who does minimal exercise other than cardio. Both promote healthy eating habits, portion control, ect. over time.

But, I'd still with Atkins. Structure is the main thing that needs to be emphasized when someones dieting for the first time. I was on an un-structured diet back in December, and by the time I realized it, I had really killed my weight lifting progress.

 

[Shelton123]

There's no such thing as a food that can actually have a negative impact on calories. The only thing thing that's possible to do that is something that's 100% cellulose or water. And cellulose cannot be broken down by the body, which is why it'd have no impact on caloric intake.

A medium-sized apple typically is about 72 calories. While a good amount of those calories will be burnt, it's not going to result in a loss of calories. Also, it contains a high GI rating, so it's going to cause insulin to spike, thus stopping the fat-burning process and starting the fat-storing. Fruit has to be kept minimal if you are serious about losing fat. Don't cut it out completely, as it has essential vitamins and nutrients, but don't over-do-it.

Celery gives you less calories than it takes to digest it.

The BEST way to lose weight for me:

1. Eat healthy - limit the sodas. Try to only have one a week, maybe less. Same goes with restaurants. Only one a week. Stay away from TV dinners. Minimal deserts.
2. Exercise - Our school has a pretty good phys ed program. We run 1/2 a mile every day except for Friday, when we run a mile. Even then, I still exercise more. I just find basketball court and shoot around for maybe an hour a few times a week.

Those "cookie" diets probably leave you SUPER hungry, and you probably get sick of them and they probably don't work as well as they say on commercials. "Nutrisystem" probably tastes like crap, and it said LOST 50 POUNDS. But in small print, it said in 18 months. Even then, it says to exercise. And that microwaveable crap can't be any good for you. It probably has NO vitamins or minerals. Eating right automatically gives you HEALTHY food without question, and yes it can fill you up.

I hope that helped

 

[BabyPiglet]

I got a quick glimpse of the South Beach Diet book one time and gathered what information I could. Basically, it's the same as the Atkins diet, except it has a slight variation. Atkins seeks to completely remove any possibility of insulin spikes [where your body can enter "fat-storing" mode], while South Beach diet seems to control the spikes at the beginning of both diets. For fat loss, Atkins is probably superior. South Beach isn't very structured and I'd fine it easy to overeat on it. The main problem is, weight loss is all about calories consumed vs. calories used. Without any structure, SB may lead to eating many more calories than neccesary. But, after the introduction phase of both, they become very similar. Both re-introduce low-GI carbs slowly, eventually allowing them, along with fruit to be an everyday thing.

Both diets seem pretty good for just a typical dieter who does minimal exercise other than cardio. Both promote healthy eating habits, portion control, ect. over time.

But, I'd still with Atkins. Structure is the main thing that needs to be emphasized when someones dieting for the first time. I was on an un-structured diet back in December, and by the time I realized it, I had really killed my weight lifting progress.

How do you mean 'structured'? I see lists of acceptable foods in both diets, and they basically both focus on no processed starchy foods in the first two weeks. The only real difference I see is that SBD also focues on healthy fats.

 

[Fatphil32]

Celery gives you less calories than it takes to digest it.

No it doesn't. The average celery stalk contains 11 calories. It takes approximately six to actually digest the celery. And it has a pretty high cellulose and water content, so it isn't hard to digest, thus meaning you won't use as many calories to break-it-down.

How do you mean 'structured'? I see lists of acceptable foods in both diets, and they basically both focus on no processed starchy foods in the first two weeks. The only real difference I see is that SBD also focues on healthy fats.

I remember something about how the SBD didn't have you measure out food, count calories, ect. That's a vital piece to losing weight. Going by the eye test isn't accurate at all. Heck, having one teaspoon more of PB can have up to two grams more fat. It's very important to measure food and get correct calorie comsumption, or every diet will fail.

Also, I believe Atkins also focuses on healthy fats. Really, almost every diet does.

 

[Fatphil32]

"Nutrisystem" probably tastes like crap, and it said LOST 50 POUNDS. But in small print, it said in 18 months. Even then, it says to exercise. And that microwaveable crap can't be any good for you. It probably has NO vitamins or minerals. Eating right automatically gives you HEALTHY food without question, and yes it can fill you up.

Nutrisystem is great for people who need convience and have a hard time with portion control. It's ideal, in my opinion, for an adult who works an eight hour job and has trouble with groceries. Also, they recommend with the program that you consume a multi-vitamin to fulfill what needs you will miss with their diet.

Bad part about it is it's mainly processed foods.

 

[BabyPiglet]

No it doesn't. The average celery stalk contains 11 calories. It takes approximately six to actually digest the celery. And it has a pretty high cellulose and water content, so it isn't hard to digest, thus meaning you won't use as many calories to break-it-down.



I remember something about how the SBD didn't have you measure out food, count calories, ect. That's a vital piece to losing weight. Going by the eye test isn't accurate at all. Heck, having one teaspoon more of PB can have up to two grams more fat. It's very important to measure food and get correct calorie comsumption, or every diet will fail.

Also, I believe Atkins also focuses on healthy fats. Really, almost every diet does.

Actually, Atkins doesn't. For instance, you can have all the full fat mayonaisse you can eat, as it has no carbs. Sour cream and cream cheese are the same. Atkins never promotes lean cuts of meat either. I think Atkins is a fine diet, but it also takes some common sense (ie: Don't eat a stick of butter wrapped in bacon.)

 

[Fatphil32]

Actually, Atkins doesn't. For instance, you can have all the full fat mayonaisse you can eat, as it has no carbs. Sour cream and cream cheese are the same. Atkins never promotes lean cuts of meat either. I think Atkins is a fine diet, but it also takes some common sense (ie: Don't eat a stick of butter wrapped in bacon.)

I thought I read where Atkins promoted it.. Guess not.

Mayo is actually a healthy fat. It has mostly unsaturated fats. Sour cream and cream cheese are written off as unhealthy, but they contain CLA trans fat, which has been recently discovered to help promote fat loss. They now sell CLA tablets at GNC and other health food stores. Same goes with fatty cuts of meat. Yes, the saturated fats can cause a problem, but it also has high traces of CLA. Moderation is key. When I was on my low-carb, high-fat diet, I ate probably half a pound of beef a day and my body fat went down 1% in two and a half weeks. And really, you can't eat all healthy fats on a high-fat diet. You'll go crazy just eating nuts, avacado, oils, ect.

BTW, I did one time make a cheese and bacon wrap. I even made a thread on this site about it, lol.

 

[♥Ariel♥]

not trying to be mean, but people were trying to tell you to eat more then two meals a day because it will help you lose weight

yeah the less food you eat the less energy your metabloism has so it is slower.. you want a fast metabolism. you eat more food it works faster and then of course working out

 

[BabyPiglet]

Now, I think I'm doing Atkins. Lol! I've been reading about it, and it's really convinced me to at least try it for the induction phase (2 weeks). I'm learning more about natural saturated fats, etc, but it's really hard to know what to believe. One place tells me that saturated fat is good, as long as it's not eaten with lots of processed carbs. While another place says that you should stick with unsaturated fats and saturated fats will give you heart disease.

I have a funny story actually. The other day I weighed myself and it was 1_8 (I'm not comfortable with displaying my actual weight.) Out of curiousity I weighed myself a few minutes ago and it was 1_6. I haven't even started the diet yet! See, just thinking about going on a diet makes me lose weight.

I do know that weight can fluctuate day by day though, and I have been out non-stop for the past two days. It encouraged me to see a lower number though.

 

[Fatphil32]

Now, I think I'm doing Atkins. Lol! I've been reading about it, and it's really convinced me to at least try it for the induction phase (2 weeks). I'm learning more about natural saturated fats, etc, but it's really hard to know what to believe. One place tells me that saturated fat is good, as long as it's not eaten with lots of processed carbs. While another place says that you should stick with unsaturated fats and saturated fats will give you heart disease.

I have a funny story actually. The other day I weighed myself and it was 1_8 (I'm not comfortable with displaying my actual weight.) Out of curiousity I weighed myself a few minutes ago and it was 1_6. I haven't even started the diet yet! See, just thinking about going on a diet makes me lose weight.

I do know that weight can fluctuate day by day though, and I have been out non-stop for the past two days. It encouraged me to see a lower number though.

Natural saturated fats = health benefits
Processed unnatural saturated fats = heart disease

Natural food such as beef, the good kind of butter, mayo, ect. all have the sat and trans fats that do carry health benefits when eaten in moderation. The saturated fats in foods like poptart [lol, i just ate one], and foods like that is bad.

And it's amazing how weight fluctuates day by day, hour by hour. I did an experiment last week. Weighed myself and I was 153. Then I drank half a gallon of water.. 157. Then I did 20 minutes of some high-intensity cardio... 149. Then ate a normal dinner... 154. Haha, that's why you should only measure weight once a week, at the same time with same eating habits. I do it every Monday morning, right after my first time using the bathroom around 6:30 without eating before.

 

[BabyPiglet]

So, do you have any advice for exercise? I have a treadmill and exercise bike thing. And there's always sidewalks and fresh air outside! I just want some simple cardio type exercises. I also won't have much extra time, so fast and effective things would be great, if you have any suggestions?

OH, and I have a very large, inground pool. I'm sure that can provide lots of exercise.

 

[Fatphil32]

So, do you have any advice for exercise? I have a treadmill and exercise bike thing. And there's always sidewalks and fresh air outside! I just want some simple cardio type exercises. I also won't have much extra time, so fast and effective things would be great, if you have any suggestions?

OH, and I have a very large, inground pool. I'm sure that can provide lots of exercise.

Unfortunealy, with the Atkins diet, fast and effective things aren't really going to work, lol. Since you're getting very little carbs, your glycogen storages are going to be depleted. During fast, intense exercise [like weight lifting, sprinting], your body relies heavily on those storages. So, those type of exercises are very hard to preform and will leave you feeling absolutely dead. On days I weight lift, I do what's called LISS. It stands for low-intensity stead state. That's where I walk at about 3.5 MPH for 45-60 minutes. After about 15-20 minutes of the walking, your body switches from using carbs for energy to fat. Since you'll be in a ketogenic state already, fat will be the primary source of energy from the start. It's VERY effective on low-carb diets, and it's very easy on your body. I'd recommend power-walking or whatever you want to call it for thirty minutes. Also, never walk anymore than an hour doing LISS. After around an hour, you'll body will start breaking down muscle for energy as well.

Normally, if you're not on a low-carb diet, I'd recommend HIIT [high-intensity interval training]. That's where you do a series of sprints, followed by breaks. I sprint for a minute at 7.5 MPH on three incline, then break for thirty seconds. Repeat that six times. Then go up to 8.5 MPH at five incline for thirty seconds, followed by a thirty second break. Repeat six times. Then go to 10.5 MPH one time. Then you're done. That's what I'd recommend for anyone not doing a low-carb diet.

And of course, swimming's a great exercise on any diet. Just make sure you're going at a nice, steady pace and it should be fine on Atkins. If you go on the bike, I'd keep the speed at around 65 RPM and ride it for 30-60 minutes.

 

[BabyPiglet]

Hey everyone, how is your progress doing? OP, have you started eating healthier/exercising yet? Fatphil, how is your fasting going?

I started my diet today, and it's going pretty well. I've only eaten 300 calories, and I'm stuffed. When I was making my meal plans I had a difficult time getting to at least 1200, so I'm trying to add a little peanut butter, olive oil, or other 'hidden' calories. I can't imagine eating anymore!

Oh, and that's the thing. I decided to throw Atkins out the window. I was reading the book, and it honestly didn't sit right with me. I definitely wasn't looking forward to the bad breath and headaches associated with ketosis either. I've decided to just do low-cal. I'm shooting for somewhere between 1200-1400.

 

[Fatphil32]

Hey everyone, how is your progress doing? OP, have you started eating healthier/exercising yet? Fatphil, how is your fasting going?

I ended it, and it went well. Basically what I discovered is, meal frequency should only be based on your schedule. I enjoy about four meals a day, because I love to cook. But, fasting works well for very busy people.

And probably a good idea on Atkins. And yeah, my piss and breath smelled like straigh-up crap while I was in ketosis. It's the easiest way to know that you're body is in ketosis.

BTW, make sure it's natural peanut butter. Chocolate Dreams Natty PB from Wal-Mart by the PB Co. is AMAZING. I eat that stuff like it was going out of style.

 

[princess.chell]

Hey everyone...
I've been kinda hanging around this thread, reading what everyone is saying, and finally decided to jump in.
For the last few months I've been trying to start a "diet" and regular exercise program. But, between work and school my schedule has been crazy and not regular at all. So, it's failed every time. But since school is out that I will be able to complete devote myself to plan now. A set out "diet" by a company or the such never work for me. But, I've looked through a bunch (Atkins, Sparkteens.com) to get a feel for what they suggest.
So, here's my plan (let me know what you think)...
Food wise...breakfast options: Multi Grain Cheeros, Scrambled Eggs with a little bit of cheese, English Muffin with a little bit of peanut butter (or butter or jelly but in small amounts)... lunch/dinner options: see this is where it gets tricky. Because of my work schedule I'll be at work for at least one of these meals a day. And this is where I run into a problem. I tend to eat out a lot at work. So, I'm trying to figure out how to eat healthy at either Chipolte or Panera. Or I may try to bring my lunch. Not sure on these meals yet as it hard with my schedule. Oh and I work at Jamba Juice so I could always have a smoothie for a meal (which actually happens a lot...)
Exercise wise...I am training for a 5K at the end of the summer so I'll be running every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for that. Those days will be my cardio only days. Every Tuesday, Thursday, and Sunday are my weight training days, mostly lower body for snowboarding, at my health club. I ride my bike there every time I go (pending weather) so I'll get cardio in every day, plus some cross training such as swimming or basketball or Zumba. Not sure totally on that, depends on how everything times out.
Any advice or anything would be great.

BabyPiglet...wanna work together this summer via here or email or something to keep each other motivated or on track? I dunno about you, but having someone there for me helps.