Disney Vacation Club adjusts 2010 Vacation Points charts

[bookwormde]

Still looking for a link to the thread that had how many of each size and type (with a different point count) of room is at each resort so I can check the total point before and after.

I know there was one report that just before the links were taken down that the dates within some of the seasons were changed (Presidents week was added to Premier) did anyone else see this or print this out or get a PDF

One the issue of guides not providing accurate information on sales; while the contractual language protects the integrity of the contract it does not insulate the salesperson or DVC from legal charges of deceptive sales practices if a pattern can be established. All the laws in this area have disallowed the “It is in the fine print” defense since it was abused so badly.

Is anyone else getting tired of the PR spin DVC is put on announcements which to anyone who is informed are clearly not the truth. Of course that goes along with the free ticket promotion that only a small percentage are using since it had little value and instead are using the gift card (promote for 1 thing and make the rules such that only something else is the reasonable value)

bookwormde

 

[appleorchard]

This is a positive thing for us, since it's hard for me to take vacation days during the week and the high weekend points have been such a detriment to staying on a weekend day. We've been splitting time between SOG and DVC, with weekends at SOG, which brings its own set of problems.
I've been hoping they'd even out the points for a long time, but I understand how it impacts people who are able to do Sun-Thursday trips. I can't wait to be one of them, but it won't happen until I can retire, since I jobshare and my partner rarely takes any time off.
Since the charts are gone, maybe they've had second thoughts, anyway...

 

[JMLBrats]

Now that I think about it, I seem to remember our guide saying that the points needed for a week stay would never change, but that it was possible for the points within that week stay to change should Disney ever decide to do so. Oh well, I guess we'll see what comes of this.

 

[lisareniff]

Boy, I was more on target than I thought! I posted this back in June 08 on the mega-thread about the change in the reservation windows:

The problem is that if there are too many members only booking Sun-Thurs stays and not booking weekend stays, then members face the real possibility of being shut out on reservations. I'm not saying that I don't understand some members frustration over this, but I understand the move. We bought based upon what we would need for a week long stay, give or take a few points, so we are OK with this. I have a bigger problem with 100 point minimum add-ons...

WHat a call Tidefan!! I think you got it right.

I am surprised that more people seem to be upset about this then the waitlist change. To me that seems just as huge.

 

[alldiz]

Well this is a lose/lose situation for me and Disney.....for my family.

I utilized the Sun-thurs Stays....it allowed me to go to WDW MORE.....and spend more money.

Now I will have to cut back my trips.....which will mean less money for Disney in the long run.
Also that second add-on.....dosen't sound so magical anymore.

Very unhappy here....
Kerri

 

[jas2n0]

My frustration is that you are provided information to help you make an informed decision, and a week after making that decision based on the material provided, everything changes. I do understand that DVC has the right to make these changes and they are not illegal, however I am sure that decisions on these types of changes don't happen overnight. If DVC was considering redistributing the points for all resorts, these changes should have been taken into account in the original BLT point charts so it would not have impacted people deciding on add-ons and new contracts.

If this change happened a few years after BLT opened then I would not be complaining, it is always a possibility and you need to consider that when becoming a member. However is this case, it seems too much of a coincidence that the change is announced only days after they complete a big push with incentives, to increase sales for AKV and BLT.

 

[photobob]

The 2010 points charts are still down. I'd really like to get a look at them.

 

[DebbieB]

The 2010 points charts are still down. I'd really like to get a look at them.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2067216

 

[AnnaS]

I don't know how to do the link thingy but someone has them on another thread in the misc. board. I think they are also here - a few pages back.

Jpg something - sorry not much help.

 

[AnnaS]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2067216

Thanks Debbie

 

[tvwalsh]

Does the quick pulling of the point charts remind anyone else of the disappearing early pictures of the BLT DVC?

 

[cinderella97]

This is really bad news for us. With the kids in school we can only go at Easter or Christmas. We have 200 points at BCV and purposely bought that many so we could stay 5 nights S-TH it would cost us 200 points - that same stay is now 230 points! OUCH!!!!! Now I don't know what to do,

 

[Starr W.]

Still looking for a link to the thread that had how many of each size and type (with a different point count) of room is at each resort so I can check the total point before and after.

I know there was one report that just before the links were taken down that the dates within some of the seasons were changed (Presidents week was added to Premier) did anyone else see this or print this out or get a PDF

One the issue of guides not providing accurate information on sales; while the contractual language protects the integrity of the contract it does not insulate the salesperson or DVC from legal charges of deceptive sales practices if a pattern can be established. All the laws in this area have disallowed the “It is in the fine print” defense since it was abused so badly.

Is anyone else getting tired of the PR spin DVC is put on announcements which to anyone who is informed are clearly not the truth. Of course that goes along with the free ticket promotion that only a small percentage are using since it had little value and instead are using the gift card (promote for 1 thing and make the rules such that only something else is the reasonable value)

bookwormde

The only things DH and I memorized before the point charts went poof, was VB 2br Premier season. It went from 447 to 450. SSR Friday b4 Thanksgiving-Black Friday 2br points stayed the same.

Our MLK trip Thurs-Mon BWV/BCV/VWL 2br went down from 180 to high 160's.

Didn't get a chance to see what they did to HHI, because those Saturday night points there were .

 

[WolfpackFan]

I am really disappointed in this change. This really hurts people who have a finite number of points and purchased those points thinking they would stay 5-6 nights at specific resorts during specific times. For example we have enough points to stay 5 nights the first week of June at HHI in a 1BR alternating every other year in a Studio. Well all of a sudden beginning in 2010 we no longer have enough points to do this. We had similar scenarios setup for our other two contracts and they are no longer doable either. Thank you DVC for nothing.

You know what is behind this - DVC sees there are a number of folks in similar situations like us and they thought well if we make these changes this will force those people to do additional add-ons. Well I can tell you now DVC will not be getting anymore of money in add-ons. We'll just reduce are stays, those costing WDW more money that we won't spend in meals, tickets, souvenirs, etc. In fact, I may even just sell my contracts and purchase a Marriott timeshare.

This really makes me very upset .

 

[Inkmahm]

Does the quick pulling of the point charts remind anyone else of the disappearing early pictures of the BLT DVC?

Exactly! Someone jumped the gun on the announcement.

As I posted in the jpg thread with the charts, it is to our favor to have the points charts changed only because we stay Friday and Saturday nights when we travel to WDW. I calculated our 2008, 2009 and 2010 vacations using the new charts. Compared to the old charts, we save 10, 14 and 12 points, respectively. So for us, an average of 12 points saved per year while using our 530 points is a good thing.

I can see where those that didn't stay on weekends would be less pleased. And the early December rates don't seem to be quite the bargain that they were before, either.

 

[glennbo123]

I just noticed that with the 2010 point charts there is even more of a disparity between weekday and weekend points in a Grand Villa, at AKV at least. They reduced the weekdays and increased the weekends. This is completely opposite from what they're doing for the other sized villas.

 

[Inkmahm]

The only things DH and I memorized before the point charts went poof, was VB 2br Premier season. It went from 447 to 450. SSR Friday b4 Thanksgiving-Black Friday 2br points stayed the same.

Our MLK trip Thurs-Mon BWV/BCV/VWL 2br went down from 180 to high 160's.

Didn't get a chance to see what they did to HHI, because those Saturday night points there were .

Charts are still here!http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2067216

 

[eyeheartgoofy]

I love WDW and my DVC ownership, but that said, I believe we all have a right to express complaints without lectures.

Ha! Don't you know that any complaints about DVC will warrant at least one lecture?

Was your room not cleaned properly, or did you have a broken piece of equipment in your room? Your fault for not personally making camp in the lobby for 3 hours waiting for a manager to come and fix the problem.

Were you disappointed in your room location? Your fault. Every member understands that requests are just requests ... no disappointment allowed.

Did you have a question about DVC financing? Fool. Everyone knows if you don't pay cash for DVC, then you can't afford it and need to go back to the HoJo.

Did a family member back out of a DVC vacation and your stuck with points in holding? Your fault. Everyone knows you don't invite family or friends to use your DVC points.

And, of course now, ... not enough points to book the same stay you have been booking for the past 5 years? Just close on a contract that is a few points shy of meeting your needs? Your fault b/c you should have purchased a point cushion.

Can't get into your home resort 9 months out? Your fault. Everyone knows you have to book at 9:00am exactly 11 months out.

Hurricane put a damper on your plans at DVC? Your fault. Everyone knows you don't book during hurricane season, or hurricane shoulder seasons.

 

[Starr W.]

Charts are still here!http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2067216

Thanks, I missed that someone was quick on the draw and saved the charts.

 

[dzorn]

The 2009 and 2010 Point Charts are posted on the member website.

Don't feel bad I cannot find it either. I was even lookin' for the 2010 before I went to the Dis. I go clear my cookies and see if that helps because the only thing I pull up is 2009.

Denise in MI