Disney Removing Do Not Disturb Signs

[Deadp00l]

So I pass on Housekeeping .... Disney sends in Housekeepers each day to .......... do what? Look under the beds? Check in the drawers? Sniff in my fridge? Maybe shake my suitcase? Why not just bring in dogs to sniff to make sure I have no explosives in the room?

I also don't agree with a housekeeper entering the room each day but sending dogs in? I'm ok with that. In fact, I'd love a surprise visit from dogs (the ONLY time it's acceptable to come into my room and wake me up at 6am is if they bring a dog along). Oh yeah, housekeeper need not enter while dog is in the room please.

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

Wait till they come barging in a "Dog Friendly" room while the family is away and disturb a sleeping Pit Bull.

 

[Colleen27]

So they're going to offer us incentives to opt out of housekeeping and then barge in anyway? Makes no sense to me.

I wonder a bit at some of the responses on this thread... We all want to think of Disney as all magic and pixie dust, but the fact is that housekeeping and security are both low-wage jobs that involve very little screening. It is much, much, much more likely that a dishonest housekeeper will steal from the guest rooms they're now required to access whether the guest wants them there or not or a skeevy security staffer will use the checks as an excuse to peep than it is that these token checks will prevent something like what happened in Vegas. We have a LOT more petty thieves and low-level pervs in our society than we do mass shooters; it is perfectly reasonable to be concerned about how the former might exploit security measures like this one.

 

[wdw4rfam]

Wait till they come barging in a "Dog Friendly" room while the family is away and disturb a sleeping Pit Bull.

You may be on to something......Anyone have a pit bull that would like to come to Disney with me??

 

[LSUmiss]

I believe it's also known as Chicken Little syndrome. Sometimes to some folks, the sky is always falling. It's always worse case scenario. Always extremes. No in between. My DH can be like this for some things, I struggle to keep him in check. I'm the queen of middle of the road, average. Because most of the time, that's where things fall, in the middle.

Whatever happened in the room with the lady bathing her kids it was odd. I can't imagine they entered within 3 seconds from knocking or that's how the policy is written for them to do it. And yes, I've read the other thread too.

Do I think this new "we'll enter every room every day" policy is going to find everything possible bad guy like the one in Vegas? Nope, no more than I think the bag check would find every bad guy. I do think he would have been discovered had someone been in his room daily. Sorry, but you can't set up what he set up, in the volume he had, undetected, if someone was in the room daily. No matter what's been reported, people were not entered his room daily. Period. There's no way

But just like it’s odd that a staff member will walk in on someone, it’s odd that the Vegas thing will happen again the same way or at all much less in WDW. So what’s the point of unnecessarily disturbing guests.

 

[Ensusieasm]

Wait till they come barging in a "Dog Friendly" room while the family is away and disturb a sleeping Pit Bull.

Rooms with dogs get a different type of door tag, and if the dog owner wants housekeeping they need to make an appointment so that they can be in the room with their dog when housekeeping arrives.

 

[CrankyDad]

It is much, much, much more likely that a dishonest housekeeper will steal from the guest rooms they're now required to access whether the guest wants them there or not or a skeevy security staffer will use the checks as an excuse to peep than it is that these token checks will prevent something like what happened in Vegas. .

You have no clue to be honest. I have been a hotel GM for 20+ years. You don’t look down on them due to their wage. I feel really bad for you that you have such an awful outlook on life. They are hardworking and not risking their job to steal your items. There are many layers of room security you don’t see. They have checks and balances for this.

Gotta say, damn insulting to me to see you equate rate of pay to integrity...

 

[cruiser21]

You may be on to something......Anyone have a pit bull that would like to come to Disney with me??

I just read the story about the two Pitbulls that killed and then ate their owner. I'd probably pick a different breed like a Doberman. Something scary that won't eat me.

 

[cruiser21]

You have no clue to be honest. I have been a hotel GM for 20+ years. You don’t look down on them due to their wage. I feel really bad for you that you have such an awful outlook on life. They are hardworking and not risking their job to steal your items. There are many layers of room security you don’t see. They have checks and balances for this.

Gotta say, damn insulting to me to see you equate rate of pay to integrity...

Totally agree. I work in a hospital. If you're a patient all kinds of high and low wage people are going to be in your room several times a day. It's extremely, and I mean extremely rare for anything to be stolen. Integrity is not based on how much money you make that is for sure.

 

[Jennasis]

Sheesh...people make it sound like security is going around kicking doors down.

 

[GrumpyFamilyof5]

I understand that the world is changing and because of this they feel the need to do this, but... I usually only get mousekeeping once during my visits, I keep my own room clean and I'm big on using towels and such for a few days to save energy, so for them to say we have to do it or can interrupt us at any given time doesn't set well with me. I guess being a passholder I will start staying offsite more, as I will still have the free parking and don't use EMH very often anyway... so sad that it has come to this...

 

[Farro]

I wouldn’t say no one. Tell that to the thousands of sexual assault/molestation victims. Might be unlikely but things happen often where you least expect it. Ppl have a right to feel uncomfortable about it. It’s an unreasonable violation of privacy.

Oh please. Don't try and guilt me into feeling that people are being reasonable about this. Poisoning their dogs? Yes, that's reasonable.

 

[cdnusagurl]

They are hardworking and not risking their job to steal your items.

Most are, like I like to think most people working any job are honest and wouldn't risk their job for a little extra self given "bonus." However, after having my diamond necklace stolen out of my hotel room once and then having the manager of the hotel cover for the culprit and try to make me out to be a liar, I know I personally have a hard time trusting housekeepers at hotels now. With that said, I think if you have something valuable on you, you should either take it with you every where you are on the trip or just leave it at home unless it is absolutely necessary for your vacation.

 

[cruiser21]

I understand that the world is changing and because of this they feel the need to do this, but... I usually only get mousekeeping once during my visits, I keep my own room clean and I'm big on using towels and such for a few days to save energy, so for them to say we have to do it or can interrupt us at any given time doesn't set well with me. I guess being a passholder I will start staying offsite more, as I will still have the free parking and don't use EMH very often anyway... so sad that it has come to this...

How do you know they won't do this offsite. We just got back from New York. We stayed at a hotel in Times Square. We were on the 35th floor with a direct view of Times Square. We had a letter in our room stating that they would be doing security checks. I guess if you want to avoid having your room checked don't book a hotel that overlooks anyplace where thousands of people gather. Don't book a hotel that overlooks Disney Springs, Magic Kingdom etc. I would be surprised if they are doing security checks in rooms at the values mods or even most of the deluxes. There is no risk to the public in most hotel rooms so I would consider this an overreach.

 

[Colleen27]

You have no clue to be honest. I have been a hotel GM for 20+ years. You don’t look down on them due to their wage. I feel really bad for you that you have such an awful outlook on life. They are hardworking and not risking their job to steal your items. There are many layers of room security you don’t see. They have checks and balances for this.

Gotta say, damn insulting to me to see you equate rate of pay to integrity...

I don't have an awful outlook at all. But I am realistic. Even if 99% of people are good and honest, in any large group (like, say, employees of the country's largest single-site employer) there will be a few bad apples. And while many hardworking people are stuck in low-wage jobs for any number of perfectly good reasons, there is a subset of low-wage workers who are there because of factors or situations that might make them think the short-term rewards of theft are greater than the long-term potential of any particular job. I have no doubt Disney handles those situations as proactively as anyone in the industry, but that doesn't mean it never happens, or even that it happens less often than an extreme event like what happened in Vegas.

And I notice you don't say anything about the poor outlook of treating everyone as a potential mass shooter...

 

[GreatLakes]

I can't say I'm surprised post Vegas but it is yet another example of security theater trying to thwart the last attack instead of proactively preventing the next. As a PP stated each attack takes away some of our freedom in the name of security. I'd rather be more free and less secure.

 

[LSUmiss]

Oh please. Don't try and guilt me into feeling that people are being reasonable about this. Poisoning their dogs? Yes, that's reasonable.

I don’t know about poisoning dogs specifically, but I think it’s very reasonable to be concerned about strange ppl coming in your room w/ very little notice while you’re alone. And, personally the main reason I would want to bring my dog would be b/c I don’t trust strangers watching him, but if he’ll possibly be exposed to strangers at WDW then there’s no point.

 

[MolonLabe]

What I do wonder about, though, is the accelerated and sudden pace at which this chance was implemented across the board, including at DVC. I am sort of musing that perhaps they have intel that we are not privy to that would have motivated this change to be brought about seemingly overnight.

It was the same way they rushed in the metal detectors, they did it a few days before Christmas and said it was a "trial". It stuck. Without enough outrage so will this. Again, unless the staff doing these searches are going through peoples luggage, it's completely useless and even then, it'd only verify for that snapshot of time, not the other 23 hours and 59 minutes of the day.

I would have no issue with having luggage scanned when checking in, though I see how it would be a logistical nightmare for including those that drive and bypass the front desk with the room ready texts. I don’t know the legalities of whether weapons are permitted on property since it’s private property but still Florida, so I’m not sure a luggage scan would be viable anyway.

Don't forget it's not just check in bags, it'd have to be every person and every bag, every time to be effective.

That's part of the reason why I said they'd have to scan every single vehicle entering property (including all persons and content obviously), A stand alone building like the Contemporary main building, sure you run everyone and everything through scanners with limited access and entry points. Virtually any of the other resorts? Good luck unless you are putting a security fence with barbed wire and sensors all the way around each resort and scanning everything at the front gate.

As to weapons on "Disney property", It isn't illegal for any licensed individual to carry a weapon on Disney property. It may be against the rules but it isn't illegal. They also can't ban you from carrying in your personal vehicle while on property, even if they tried to scan everyone "as they drove in". Anyone else remember Disney trying to ban firearms in the employee parking lots? That got shot down. The charges people get arrested on vary from impersonating a police officer or criminal trespass, no one has ever been convicted of simply "carrying a gun at Disney".

Disney has a strict no firearms in the hotels policy but that still doesn't make it illegal. It would be an interesting test case if Disney ever tried to push the issue and kick someone out for leaving a firearm in a safe for example. A colleague of mine was at the Poly a few months ago and put his handgun in the room safe rather than leave it in his car unattended for the week. About half an hour after checkout and on I4 he realized he left it in the safe. He went back they pressed him for what it was he left and he kept calling it a "personal item". He was told security would be with him when the safe was opened, so they would see it anyway and he eventually told them it was his handgun. They were none too pleased and told him next time to leave it in his car, it wasn't welcome in the hotel or rooms. Guests are allowed to check a firearm into the safes at the main reception desk, not room safes.

I often drive through the parking lots seeing the hundreds of NRA type stickers on cars and wonder what a criminals dream it would be to smash and grab all those guns... Personally I'd think Disney would want them all secured in room safes vs sitting in all those cars but not much of Disney's public face side of security makes much sense anyway.

 

[Colleen27]

Most are, like I like to think most people working any job are honest and wouldn't risk their job for a little extra self given "bonus." However, after having my diamond necklace stolen out of my hotel room once and then having the manager of the hotel cover for the culprit and try to make me out to be a liar, I know I personally have a hard time trusting housekeepers at hotels now. With that said, I think if you have something valuable on you, you should either take it with you every where you are on the trip or just leave it at home unless it is absolutely necessary for your vacation.

We had a similar experience, on a much smaller scale. We had some cash and a MP3 player taken from our room, and management seemed more concerned with defending their staff and practices than with the customer experience. Basically, they said there was no way to prove it was housekeeping, the housekeepers on duty were long time employees who would never do such a thing, and that we should have had our stuff in the safe rather than out on a dresser (I agree with that last point, but that's no excuse for theft. It was one of my then-tween kids who left their things sitting out when we went to the pool.).

Later that day, I noticed how housekeeping was working and I have to say... I understand why management said it wasn't necessarily an employee who took the money, but if it wasn't, the theft could still be laid at the feet of their housekeeping practices. A team of two housekeepers would prop open four doors, two on either side of the hallway, and service all the rooms in the cluster. Someone interested in stealing could just wander into a room when the housekeepers were busy in the others, and if they pretended to belong there, how would the housekeepers know they weren't in their own room? After that, I started hanging the DND tag any time we were in and out of the room for short periods and didn't want to make a point of locking everything up.

 

[cruiser21]

I don't have an awful outlook at all. But I am realistic. Even if 99% of people are good and honest, in any large group (like, say, employees of the country's largest single-site employer) there will be a few bad apples. And while many hardworking people are stuck in low-wage jobs for any number of perfectly good reasons, there is a subset of low-wage workers who are there because of factors or situations that might make them think the short-term rewards of theft are greater than the long-term potential of any particular job. I have no doubt Disney handles those situations as proactively as anyone in the industry, but that doesn't mean it never happens, or even that it happens less often than an extreme event like what happened in Vegas.

And I notice you don't say anything about the poor outlook of treating everyone as a potential mass shooter...

I get the point your trying to make. I will agree with you housekeepers stealing is much more common then mass shooters. I don't go through life worrying about either I just don't leave valuables in hotel rooms. Hopefully if this is being done for the purpose of security they stick to hotels that are a potential risk to the public. Such as a room at BLT that has a direct line of sight to the Magic Kingdom. If they search my standard view room ground floor room at WL that overlooks the woods I might be a little peeved.