Disney Kicks Out Some Pop Warner Teams After Fight

[drag n' fly]

One breaks the rules............one pays the consequences. Hopefully, this was a lesson for the fighters. Hopefully, the parents will punish the fighters instead of blaming Disney for "kicking them out."

Good riddance! No sympathy for these people. Inappropriate behaviour has been tolerated far too long by guests of Disney.

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Its true, a School in Miami was banned for 10 years, for throwing Mickey into a lake!

More than a few schools have been banned for tossing characters into the drink. Back before 9/11 and the stricter park security measures, sneaking booze into the Magic Kingdom on Grad Night was quite rampant. I'm sure that was a big part of the GradNight shenanigans.

 

[spinaltap]

With the logic that is being used on this thread that everybody in a team is responsible for the actions of a few or even one, I a am wondering why it doesn’t apply to the whole group. Using the same philosophy, shouldn’t anyone that was associated with Pop Warner been thrown out? Aren’t they all a part of the Pop Warner Team? You should not be responsible if someone chooses to make bad choices.

 

[Camicar]

Good for Disney. I support their decision 100%.

I am sick of spoiled out of control brats ruining expensive/important experiences whether it's restaurants, water parks, theme parks, weddings, and funerals, and no one in authority or any parent does anything.

We once spent an entire WDW/Universal vacation exhausted bec a visiting band playing at WDW was at our hotel -- apparently without any chaperonage whatsoever. They were up til 3am screaming and yelling and talking in the worst profanities and -- this is the truth -- having a gang bang in the room next to us. We complained and complained and complained to the hotel and nothing was done. Nothing. Another time, I was at a hotel to give the keynote speech at a conference and was kept up til 2am by a CHURCH youth group running amok in the hallways -- the management did nothing and the pastors were there, watching the kids. I confronted one of them and he shrugged and said, "It's harmless fun. Stop being such a jerk and take a sleeping pill if you don't like it."

I've learned my lesson and now I call the cops. But I'm sick of the attitude from chaperones and hotel management about this crap. So good for Disney.

I really don't care if other families had to leave bec other kids were acting up. Part of being a team is that you take the good with the bad.Too bad, so sad. If those kids had been properly chaperoned, then this situation would have never gotten out of hand -- so any complaints from adults/chaperones will fall on deaf ears with me.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

One breaks the rules............one pays the consequences. Hopefully, this was a lesson for the fighters. Hopefully, the parents will punish the fighters instead of blaming Disney for "kicking them out."

I doubt it. People will blame Disney first. Then after realizing they won't get anything from them, maybe they will finally blame those actually involved.

I must be the only one that disagrees. I think only the people involved should be kicked out. Why hold good people accountable for the bad few out there. I would be so mad if i was minding my business and because someone on my DD or DS team got in a fight and we were woking up in the middle of the night and kicked out.

Well, it's working on the assumption that if a few people in the group will act this way, then maybe all of them will.

While I in no way believe this to be true of all people, usually the apple doesn't fall far from the tree and people usually group together with like people.

I do not blame Disney for having this policy.

I think Disney definitely did right in kicking these groups out, but not in the middle of the night. I can see the need to get the instigators out immediately and they could have done that, then kicked out the rest of the group in the morning when it would have been more feasible for them to make other arrangements.

I'm not sure. Are the kids participating under 17? If they are, then they could not have kicked out only those involved without kicking out the families they are with. It's a shame that babies and young children had to be wakened, but, if you can't take care of the kids in your care, you shouldn't be there.

I feel sorry for the family members of any team members who weren't involved in the fight at all.. any of them who were in their hotel rooms or in a different location with a chaperone.

However, if the younger children were sleeping, then why weren't the football players in their hotel rooms too? There wouldn't have been any fighting if all of the players had been with their families in their rooms.

Imagine if you were some unsuspecting guests of the hotel who couldn't sleep late at night because kids are fighting outside your room. It's unlikely that the kids would have been fighting if they were properly chaperoned.

Exactly! If you're chaperoning, then you should be doing that job and paying attention to all those you have with you.

 

[Talking Hands]

Its true, a School in Miami was banned for 10 years, for throwing Mickey into a lake!

I was going to say that. Miami Central. And my friend in NW Florida told me her daughter's school has been banned because 4 students were caught shoplifting in Epcot during their Candlelight performance trip.
I also know a church group that can no longer go to Disney because of their behavior. Some of the boys decided to moon the girls on TTA.
Disney has to enforce their policy's for the protection of other guests.

 

[Dolce27]

You know, I have no problem with Disney kicking them out in the middle of the night. Kuddos to Disney for following through on the terms of the contract. Disney is private property. You can stay only as long as they allow you to stay. If you break the rules then they have every right to kick you out - even if it is the middle of the night.

I'm at work so I can't stream the news video and I can only get facts about this story by what is written on this thread. What kind of lawsuit - or threat of lawsuit- is going against Disney? Back to the fact that Disney is private property. Are they trying to sue because they were evicted in the middle of the night? There isn't a law that prohibits Disney from evicting people in the middle of the night.

 

[thptrek]

Regarding asking the people to leave their rooms immediately (during the night) as management you have to do this. If you tell the disruptive guests they have to leave in the morning what makes you think they won't go back to their rooms and trash the rooms.

 

[livie1205]

they should have made the people involved leave right away and everyone else the next day...they should NOT have people that had nothing to do with it move there small kids in the middle of the night....I dont care says they should...its wrong.yes they should go somewhere else but in the middle of the night? ORLANDO is not a place a family should be driving around in the middle of the night.

 

[lovemygoofy]

I completely understand why the whole team had to leave together in the middle of the night. If only the people involved in the fight had been asked to leave, grudges against the other team would have been formed and chances increase of even more violence anywhere at anytime and could include innocent bystanders.

 

[Cool-Beans]

I can see forcing the fighters to leave immediately. Makes sense to me.

But kicking babies out into the night is not something I would want to hear about anyone - especially Disney. Shame on them.

Too bad these weren't naked teenage girls. Then Disney would have embraced them.

Something is seriously wrong at Disney these days.

 

[girt25]

they should have made the people involved leave right away and everyone else the next day...they should NOT have people that had nothing to do with it move there small kids in the middle of the night....I dont care says they should...its wrong.yes they should go somewhere else but in the middle of the night? ORLANDO is not a place a family should be driving around in the middle of the night.

I agree it's an awkward time for families to look for a place to stay in the middle of night. However, I don't think it's a good idea to have cutoff times for rule enforcement in general. Maybe it can be some sort of low season promotion monday thru thursday, feb 3-27th "fight after 9pm, extra night stay" (excludes holidays, can not combine with any other discounts)

 

[Geoff_M]

With the logic that is being used on this thread that everybody in a team is responsible for the actions of a few or even one, I a am wondering why it doesn’t apply to the whole group. Using the same philosophy, shouldn’t anyone that was associated with Pop Warner been thrown out? Aren’t they all a part of the Pop Warner Team? You should not be responsible if someone chooses to make bad choices.

Almost any logic can be stretched to the point of absurdity... but that doesn't make any application of the logic invalid. Like the saying goes "You have to draw the line somewhere" and Disney draws it at the group level. Though all of the teams are members of the same sports organization, no doubt they book their stays as separate teams, pay as separate teams, travel as separate teams, etc. In the end, as pointed out, Disney's policy is upfront that the "group" signing the group reservation documents may be held accountable as a whole if there are problems... there were, and Disney took action consistent with that stated policy.

 

[wendy46001]

they should have made the people involved leave right away and everyone else the next day...they should NOT have people that had nothing to do with it move there small kids in the middle of the night....I dont care says they should...its wrong.yes they should go somewhere else but in the middle of the night? ORLANDO is not a place a family should be driving around in the middle of the night.

The families did have something to do with it...it was their team...and if the kids are awake and roaming the halls none of the "Chaperones" should be tucked into bed...

Plus it’s not like they'd have to drive more then a min off Disney property to find another hotel...

 

[Malificient Tater]

I applaud them. Everyone know going into it that if one person messed up it effected everyone. They could not have let some stay or stay the night, they would have destroyed the rooms. And then they would probally have to call the police back the next morning to keep them out. Can you imagine the kids having all night to think of ways to get back at Disney for kicking them out? Yeah that would have been even worse.

Sorry but the parents and chaperones should have been watching the kids. This sounds like a big fight, not just a one on one thing.

I know I am part of a large group of people that gather at one hotel a year. We are mostly women. We bring in alot of money for this place and book a year in advance. Were they let us get away with alot, they really take care of us. They have kicked out male guest that have been rude or threatening to us. Because they are PRIVATE property and they can do as they see fit. Read your hotel reservations, they can kick you out when ever they feel like it. And try to sue, you will lose everytime.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

Regarding asking the people to leave their rooms immediately (during the night) as management you have to do this. If you tell the disruptive guests they have to leave in the morning what makes you think they won't go back to their rooms and trash the rooms.

I completely understand why the whole team had to leave together in the middle of the night. If only the people involved in the fight had been asked to leave, grudges against the other team would have been formed and chances increase of even more violence anywhere at anytime and could include innocent bystanders.

ITA!

The families did have something to do with it...it was their team...and if the kids are awake and roaming the halls none of the "Chaperones" should be tucked into bed...

Plus it’s not like they'd have to drive more then a min off Disney property to find another hotel...

So true.
It is the fault of the families and chaperones. They were not paying attention to those kids they let roam around at 10pm-11pm.

Orlando is also overflowing with hotels that they could get to to get new rooms.

It's tough, but maybe the groups will finally learn that they need to pay more attention to the kids and what they are doing.

 

[Jennasis]

Oh Puhlease! Disney did not kick babies out in the cold dark night. The families had to leave immediately. THANK YOU DISNEY for standing up for yourself. It would take ANYONE about 5 minutes to find another motel/hotel and check in.

Cry me a river. Your kids are out wreaking havoc while you and the babies are asleep? How about you are ALL asleep in your room and not letting your little beasts run amok through the hotel?

Kudos Disney. Hopefully my stay there next year at this time won't be marred by the Pop Warner hooligans.

 

[debster812]

I can see forcing the fighters to leave immediately. Makes sense to me.

But kicking babies out into the night is not something I would want to hear about anyone - especially Disney. Shame on them.

Too bad these weren't naked teenage girls. Then Disney would have embraced them.

Something is seriously wrong at Disney these days.

So what would the answer be? As others have stated, what's to prevent these troublemakers from trashing rooms that they are being evicted from in the morning, if they are allowed to stay?

I agree with how WDW handled this.

 

[jackskellingtonsgirl]

I am THRILLED that Disney actually decided to enforce a policy instead of treating the Pop Warner teams like they are above the rules! Behavior from these kids has been a problem for YEARS, and very little has been done to the offenders. I hope this makes the Pop Warner officials mad enough to move their competition elsewhere.

 

[NHdisneylover]

I can see forcing the fighters to leave immediately. Makes sense to me.

But kicking babies out into the night is not something I would want to hear about anyone - especially Disney. Shame on them.

Too bad these weren't naked teenage girls. Then Disney would have embraced them.

Something is seriously wrong at Disney these days.

It is clear in the contract that EVERYONE will need to leave if there is a problem. When the dance team at my son's school went to WDW two families who wanted to go along and to see the performance, etc but did not want to be responislbe for the group (which, BTW, behaved fabulously and had no problems) booked totally seperate resevations. They were not chaperones. They did not get the group rate. They were not gauranteed rooms right next to the group's rooms. BUT (and both had little, little ones) they would not have had to leave in a circumatsnace like this. They knew, if you travel as a group you are responible for the group. They chose to safegaurd the little ones by traveling seperately. Any one has that option. Then again, otehrs (with babies) went with the group. If something had happened which caused the group to be asked to leave you can bet they would have all been angry--at the kids who caused the problem and the adults who were suppoesd to be in charge of those kids at the time--not at WDW.