carissa1970
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You can't say that unless you have the AP revenue numbers for SoCal and Florida. A DL Deluxe AP is the same cost as a good price airfare alone from Houston to LAX or MCO. Being in Houston, we could go multiple times a year for the same cost as round trip airfare to either of the other 2 parks instead of going once every 2-3 years. Another number you would need is how many lower income families go for 1-3 days because they live w/i an affordable drive to the other 2 parks that couldn't do it otherwise? Then you need to know if guests can get there for hundred$ or thousand$ less how much of that do they spend on Disney luxuries, food, and merchandise instead of with an airline?
There 6 million people w/i 2 hours of that location, go to 3 hours and you pick up another 2 million from the Austin metro area, take that to 4 hours and you pick up over 2-3 million more with San Antonio and the southern Dallas suburbs. 5-6 hours and you can pick up the whole DFW metroplex's 7 million. Not a whole lot of mid America locations with 17 million people w/i a 5-6 hour drive with suitable year around weather.
I too am doubtful it will happen. I was just pointing that locale has a lot more rational reasons than most of the rumored sites. local population size, weather, 2 local airports(Austin's Bergstrom airport would be 2 hours away for 3rd), Latin American travel hub, east-west and north-south interstate intersection w/i 1 hour, plentiful labor,cruise terminals, etc.
I would think if it ever happens it would only be a Disneyland type property plus a water park only and not a WDW. Then there is still a pull to go to WDW.
But Disney would be threatening to cancel any project if someone besides the Walt Disney Company made any sort of property sale announcement, and they'd be pressuring that website to come down.
My two cents: I've heard the rumor about Texas being the next location for years and while it's six of one for me, I doubt it will happen. The closest Disney ever came to building another park was the America one in VA. The sad thingn is that the reason that people used to deny it, huge traffic, building on pristine eras, etc, came to happen anyhow, without the jobs that Disney would have brought.
About five or six years ago WDW announced a market place type expansion over towards Animal Kingdom on land there, sort of like DTD or PI, and that's as far as it went.
Not only was Chicago the location for the only other Disney Quest, the Chicagoland era was also the only location for the short lived Mickey's Kitchen (or Cafe- not sure which it was for sure now). This was a counter service restaurant next to the Disney Store in Woodfield Mall.
And also, Disney did a few of the indoor playground type places for kids, primarily out west if I remember, before dropping this plans.
I just really doubt that Disney will venture into a huge park-type plan in the US anymore, particularly since the current parks are doing well enough.
I like your take and you have great points.
But i know that what TWDC wants to avoid at all costs is setting up "competing" markets where people would have two viable options.
If in texas...that would set up this scenario for say...phoenix? denver?
on the other side New Orleans? Nashville? Maybe Atlanta? or even better...Chicago - where it would now be a push between what's "easier" to get too...
They don't want to duplicate and offer choices...they want to make you committ that you - as an individual - HAVE to go to a specific spot once a year (or preferably more than once) and if you feel the need to go out west/east...then you make that a special trip and fit it AROUND your normal spot.
Crazy? yeah...but that is exactly how they see themselves and their place in your home/wallet.
So putting something "centrally" located would be counter productive to them.
they did toy with this...if you recall...when eisner tried to get a spot in Virginia. He was kinda rouge in that...as he had built up alot of corporate clout after the hot streak he was on and he just wanted something close to the east coast/ northeast (he was a new yorker)...
but even that was a different scenario because of the country's "guts" of population and heavily so money is still concentrated on the east coast.
As far "all the people" they could bring in to Texas...which is a merit...heck, they should put it in Brooklyn...which has 30 million within two hours of it and about 70 million within 5...including New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Washington and Baltimore...that's practically like the Freedom Trail
But again...i can see some sort of texas development someday...but much smaller than even disneyland...maybe a specialty type minipark and a schlitterbahn.
it would need to be big enough to complete with 6 Flags over Texas (might make them step their park)
Disney is not in the business of competing with Six Flags parks. While both companies operate "theme parks," the companies have very different business models and largely a different set of target customers.
A third major Disney presence in the U.S. would cost many billions these days. The challenge would be for the Disney Parks & Resorts business segment to generate enough net new revenue and profit to justify the huge capital investment and operating expenses. The financial math would have to include the cannibalization of attendance at WDW and DLR.
A smaller, limited scope Disney theme park would still need to meet Guest expectations of what it means to be a Disney park. The resulting high overhead compared to a Six Flags park would also make the financial math questionable. Think of California Adventure in its original form.
Six Flags has had financial problems when primarily catering to local thrill seekers, who are often young adult customers with limited financial resources. So that's not a business model for Disney to imitate either.
well i no is its a PGA tour about to be built in texas says dfw Mayor Mike Rawlings in 2019 its odd and if you look at it Disney was The only Few that had PGA tours in the south and since of late this rumor has gotten bigger than it has with disney land if they build it best places would be DFW are San Antonio its so much Land out here in texas They could put Disney here and Just last year they Finally Put disney cruise line in Galveston texas which has gotten me to wonder so much about this you even see Disney trucks In texas which is odd they might and probably will Build it here in a few years cause we have 30 Of Disney stores its time to Shake things up Again you see texas leaders are tired of the texas going out of town thats why you notice by the Dallas Jail you notice its showing a future like Las vegas strip and on News station they said this and their is no way they want that money to leave anymore so that why I no they will Build Disney cause SFOT is over crowded and Texas want New Money.
WOW! Is it just me...or was that the hardest thing to read ever posted on the Dis?
I wish Disney would spring for a grand park in some shape, form or fashion here in Texas, but would be totally shocked if it came to fruition. They'd hafta spend a huge amount of dough, and although they've proven they can dig deep, they have already committed tons to recent and ongoing projects. Plus, many of us suspect Carsland will somehow make it way to Fla.
Then again...huge earnings continue to roll in....