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Prolouge
Ever since finishing my Oct 05 trip report a few days ago, (found here - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1052236) I've been getting bored of having nothing more to write. And since it's been stated by the mods that pre-trip planning could be included in trip reports I've decided to start this one, even though we're only in April.
Pre-Trip - Deciding to go Back
This trip report actually starts as soon as my last one leaves off. The day after I came home I was already, like any good DISer, missing Disney. I would of probably missed it the night before, but with delayed flights, and not getting home until late, let alone bed, was too tired to miss it.
My initial decision was to try and plan a trip this Oct for another Food and Wine Festival. But, after some research, and as we approached the holidays, I decided I wanted to go in December to take advantage of the all the special entertainment and decorations.
Picking Dates
I knew I didn't want to go Christmas week, so I was looking at the calendar playing around with dates, until finally settling on Dec 7th to the 18th. That way, I would have a day more then last year. (It is easier writing this one then the last report, since I kept on having to think of things in a present-tense, where as this one it is present-tense.) That suited my needs perfectly, I will be able to see all of the Christmas decorations, go to MVMCP, and get all of my Christmas shopping done. (Guess I'll need even more spending money this time.)
Me Being My Overly Obsessed Self
I have no one close to me that loves Disney as much as I do, and everyone in my family, and not just my immediate family - all cousins, aunts, and uncles too, is "done" doing Disney. They all have a "been there, done that" attitude. But, the last time anyone in my family, besides me of course, was in WDW, was just over seven years ago. And several family members opted not to go on that trip, because, "we had just been there," a little over a year before. Why and/or how am I related to these people? DBF is only slightly better then them. He thinks it's cute that I'll plan everything out ahead of time, but he's never been to WDW, so he doesn't understand how huge it is, and how many different things there are to consider. His theory is that since he's been to Disneyland he doesn't have to go to WDW, because, "they're the same." Why and/or how are we together. He has said that if it really means that much to me that we'd go together. Which, I'm sure sooner or later we'll do, even though I love my solo trips. We've been talking about getting married, and, little does he know, we're getting married in WDW, I've wanted that since I was like five, and he did say we could have whatever kind of wedding I wanted. So, see, we'll have a trip to WDW together, because he has to be there for the wedding.
So, if I seem to babble on every obscure detail of my planning - it's because I have no one else to talk to. Apparently I'm obsessed, and living in some kind of Fantasyland, (and everyone knows I would if I could,) and have some kind of logic that everything relates to Disney. Just the other night I made dinner for my family, and, when asked where I got the recipe, and I replied Disney, (duh, where else,) they just rolled their eyes.
People also keep on telling me that if I'm not on Disney vacation, that I'm planning one. (Duh again, is there any other point to life.) But, I believe that the planning, is almost, as much fun as the trip itself. And I hate when I see guests that have clearly not done any planning at all, (spring on a $20 guide book, you're paying enough for the trip, what's another $20,) and don't understand the transportation system, or what kinds of shows there are. I'm not saying to be like me, but get an idea of what to expect.
My Planning Binder
I started keeping all of my papers, (i.e. reservations, menus, location guides for characters and pressed pennies,) in a binder. Last trip I used the same binder, and now it has a crack in it from over-use. I guess I need a new one, and when I'm at it, some of those divider things so I can have catagories for things like restaurants, reservations, and schedules.
Right now, I have my room reservation and flight information printed up, as well as charts I've made figuring out when to eat where, and the menus, (thank you All Ears,) of the restaurants I want to eat at. (Still two more months until I can even make ADR's, but I like being prepared.)
My Budget
My biggest delima in deciding to go again was the money issue. I knew that I wouldn't, and still won't, be able to have many luxuries this year. But, for a trip to WDW, it's worth it. I would rather have virtually nothing going on all year, and be able to look foward to a trip, then have a bunch of things I'll rarely use.
Though the other day I did order the WDW on dvd set - which set me back $150. I'm going to give myself a good slap on the wrists for that one. But, after thinking about it, I've come to this reasoning, (F.Y.I. - this is through my sense of logic,) since all of the parades and shows are on the dvd, I won't feel the need to see them "live" everyday during my trip, especially the ones I've already seen, and wasn't completely thrilled with, like the Stars and Motor Cars parade, which will give me more time, and with shorter lines, to enjoy the rides, since I won't be spending an hour, (figuring in the wait time,) at the parades. So $150 = extra time in the parks.
But, anyway, back to my budget. I'm alloting $3,000 to the trip. Which is actually, probably, a little on the high side. This is how I've broken it down.
Room - $1,000
Plane - $250
Tickets (AP) - $450
Tickets (MVMCP x2) - $100
Food (TS) - $500
Food (CS) - $200
Souviners - $300
So it adds up to close to $3,000. But I may of over-budgeted (is that a word?) on several things.
Picking A Resort
Around Feb I knew for sure I was going to be able to go again, and the first matter of business to get down to was trying to decided what resort to stay at. The deluxes were out, way out of my price range. Though if I saved for awhile I'd probably be able to pull off staying at Animal Kingom Lodge or Wilderness Lodge, especially if I was able to get a discount. I considered one of the moderates, but decided it wasn't worth the extra $50 or so a night, which would have amounted to $550 for the length of the trip, just to have a few extra convienences.
So I decided it had to be one of the value resorts. But, which one? Would I return to All Star Music? Or try a different one. Deciding on a value only left me four options in the first place, All Star Movies, Music, or Sports, or Pop Century. I didn't really want to book at Sports, since that themeing wasn't really to my liking. After posting a thread on the resort forums, (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1033409, thank you very much to those who answered my questions,) it seemed that Pop was getting the most positive reviews.
After looking into even more information on Pop on sites such as All Ears and Mouse Planet, as well as here on the DIS, I decided to book there.
I booked through Disney on their website. I don't like travel agents that much, as they don't seem to know as much as I do about WDW, though I also seemed to think that about one or two CM's when I made my ADR's last year. Besides, Disney sent me a nice letter saying they were looking foward to seeing me. I always get giddy whenever I recieve something in the mail concerning my trip.
I put in a request for a room in the 50's or 70's, not wanting to have to pay an extra $100 for a few feets walk, or being so far back in the 80's or 90's. Not that I don't have every intention of walking back there when I explore the resort - something I never did at the All Star Music, I walked by the Jazz and Calypso buildings every day, but never walked over to the Country or Broadway buildings. But, I don't want to have a long walk back to my room every night after a long day at the parks.
If you've read my Oct report, (there's a link to it at the begining of this one,) you might've noticed that I always went from park opening to park closing, rarely taking breaks, and only leaving the parks at night when there were certain shows, (Lost and Desperate Housewives,) that I just had to see. Another good thing about going in Dec is that those shows are usually in reruns then.
The only thing that I'm midly concerned about is that transportation may be an issue. I've read reports saying that Pop is better, and some saying Pop is worse. I'm not looking for super-fast buses. I leave my room around 8:00 in the morning - assuming the parks open at 9:00, so I can be at the parks when they open. I just don't want to get stuck in a mob scene.
I've also read that the food court is an improvment over the All Stars - though I'm still going to stay away from the pizza. I started another thread on the restaurant board about the Pop food court. Food is a major concern of mine. If you've read my last trip report. . . (in fact, if you haven't just go read it now before continuing, since I'll be refrencing and comparing to it a lot, and I'd hate to confuse you.) So, anyway, I'm not a picky eater, but I don't like tasteless, unseasoned, over-cooked, food.
On Feb 25th, a good nine months out, I booked my room. Here's hoping I like it.
Room Budget - $1,000
Actual Cost - $968.99
So I'm already $32.01 below my budget. (Which will probably be end up getting spent on souveniers.)
Choosing A Flight
I'd been watching flight prices for several weeks, okay, more like two months, on the various websites - Travelocity, Orbitz, Expedia, etc, and it always seemed like Travelocity had the lowest prices. Since I had booked with them before and had been happy, decided to book with them again.
The flight, for me, is always the most boring, less thought out, Disney-less, aspect of my trip. (It's also the only thing I book, that I'm not booking directly through Disney.)
I knew I wanted an early flight. After all, a later flight would just mean less time in the parks, and I wouldn't want that. Since I'm getting an AP, it won't make any difference on the number of days left on my park pass, the room will cost the same no matter how early or late my flight is, and who would want to sit around all day waiting for it to be time to go to the airport. Though, like those Disney commericials, when the people are to excited to sleep, that's what I'm like, so it's just as well that I book an early flight since I'm not that patient when it comes to going.
When it comes to leaving it's another story. I don't want an early flight this time, I want to stay in Disney as long as possible. But, not so late that it's after midnight when I get home. So I settled on a 2:30 flight, and then I'll be home in time for dinner.
Flight Budget - $250
Actual Cost - $254.05
It would have actually been $233.10, but I always seem to get paranoid that my bags will be lost, and while that wasn't the most up-front thought in my head, by the time I actually get close to my trip, I'll start panicing a little. So to calm myself ahead of time, I paid the extra $16 for insurance.
Park Tickets
Last year I spent $300 on a ten-day MYW pass with hopping and the extras like admission to the water parks. While I took full advantage of the hopping privledges, (and I reccomend everyone goes for this option,) I didn't use a single extra. I did go to Downtown Disney, but just for shopping, I never made it to Pleasure Island, or West Side for that matter.
So, this year, I decided to get an AP for three reasons. 1) I could hop from park to park without worrying about using any extra days, 2) I could take advantage of AP discounts, and get the DDE, and 3) It would make a 2007 trip possible.
I haven't bought the AP yet, but am planning on ordering it by the end of the month.
Ever since finishing my Oct 05 trip report a few days ago, (found here - http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1052236) I've been getting bored of having nothing more to write. And since it's been stated by the mods that pre-trip planning could be included in trip reports I've decided to start this one, even though we're only in April.
Pre-Trip - Deciding to go Back
This trip report actually starts as soon as my last one leaves off. The day after I came home I was already, like any good DISer, missing Disney. I would of probably missed it the night before, but with delayed flights, and not getting home until late, let alone bed, was too tired to miss it.
My initial decision was to try and plan a trip this Oct for another Food and Wine Festival. But, after some research, and as we approached the holidays, I decided I wanted to go in December to take advantage of the all the special entertainment and decorations.
Picking Dates
I knew I didn't want to go Christmas week, so I was looking at the calendar playing around with dates, until finally settling on Dec 7th to the 18th. That way, I would have a day more then last year. (It is easier writing this one then the last report, since I kept on having to think of things in a present-tense, where as this one it is present-tense.) That suited my needs perfectly, I will be able to see all of the Christmas decorations, go to MVMCP, and get all of my Christmas shopping done. (Guess I'll need even more spending money this time.)
Me Being My Overly Obsessed Self
I have no one close to me that loves Disney as much as I do, and everyone in my family, and not just my immediate family - all cousins, aunts, and uncles too, is "done" doing Disney. They all have a "been there, done that" attitude. But, the last time anyone in my family, besides me of course, was in WDW, was just over seven years ago. And several family members opted not to go on that trip, because, "we had just been there," a little over a year before. Why and/or how am I related to these people? DBF is only slightly better then them. He thinks it's cute that I'll plan everything out ahead of time, but he's never been to WDW, so he doesn't understand how huge it is, and how many different things there are to consider. His theory is that since he's been to Disneyland he doesn't have to go to WDW, because, "they're the same." Why and/or how are we together. He has said that if it really means that much to me that we'd go together. Which, I'm sure sooner or later we'll do, even though I love my solo trips. We've been talking about getting married, and, little does he know, we're getting married in WDW, I've wanted that since I was like five, and he did say we could have whatever kind of wedding I wanted. So, see, we'll have a trip to WDW together, because he has to be there for the wedding.
So, if I seem to babble on every obscure detail of my planning - it's because I have no one else to talk to. Apparently I'm obsessed, and living in some kind of Fantasyland, (and everyone knows I would if I could,) and have some kind of logic that everything relates to Disney. Just the other night I made dinner for my family, and, when asked where I got the recipe, and I replied Disney, (duh, where else,) they just rolled their eyes.
People also keep on telling me that if I'm not on Disney vacation, that I'm planning one. (Duh again, is there any other point to life.) But, I believe that the planning, is almost, as much fun as the trip itself. And I hate when I see guests that have clearly not done any planning at all, (spring on a $20 guide book, you're paying enough for the trip, what's another $20,) and don't understand the transportation system, or what kinds of shows there are. I'm not saying to be like me, but get an idea of what to expect.
My Planning Binder
I started keeping all of my papers, (i.e. reservations, menus, location guides for characters and pressed pennies,) in a binder. Last trip I used the same binder, and now it has a crack in it from over-use. I guess I need a new one, and when I'm at it, some of those divider things so I can have catagories for things like restaurants, reservations, and schedules.
Right now, I have my room reservation and flight information printed up, as well as charts I've made figuring out when to eat where, and the menus, (thank you All Ears,) of the restaurants I want to eat at. (Still two more months until I can even make ADR's, but I like being prepared.)
My Budget
My biggest delima in deciding to go again was the money issue. I knew that I wouldn't, and still won't, be able to have many luxuries this year. But, for a trip to WDW, it's worth it. I would rather have virtually nothing going on all year, and be able to look foward to a trip, then have a bunch of things I'll rarely use.
Though the other day I did order the WDW on dvd set - which set me back $150. I'm going to give myself a good slap on the wrists for that one. But, after thinking about it, I've come to this reasoning, (F.Y.I. - this is through my sense of logic,) since all of the parades and shows are on the dvd, I won't feel the need to see them "live" everyday during my trip, especially the ones I've already seen, and wasn't completely thrilled with, like the Stars and Motor Cars parade, which will give me more time, and with shorter lines, to enjoy the rides, since I won't be spending an hour, (figuring in the wait time,) at the parades. So $150 = extra time in the parks.
But, anyway, back to my budget. I'm alloting $3,000 to the trip. Which is actually, probably, a little on the high side. This is how I've broken it down.
Room - $1,000
Plane - $250
Tickets (AP) - $450
Tickets (MVMCP x2) - $100
Food (TS) - $500
Food (CS) - $200
Souviners - $300
So it adds up to close to $3,000. But I may of over-budgeted (is that a word?) on several things.
Picking A Resort
Around Feb I knew for sure I was going to be able to go again, and the first matter of business to get down to was trying to decided what resort to stay at. The deluxes were out, way out of my price range. Though if I saved for awhile I'd probably be able to pull off staying at Animal Kingom Lodge or Wilderness Lodge, especially if I was able to get a discount. I considered one of the moderates, but decided it wasn't worth the extra $50 or so a night, which would have amounted to $550 for the length of the trip, just to have a few extra convienences.
So I decided it had to be one of the value resorts. But, which one? Would I return to All Star Music? Or try a different one. Deciding on a value only left me four options in the first place, All Star Movies, Music, or Sports, or Pop Century. I didn't really want to book at Sports, since that themeing wasn't really to my liking. After posting a thread on the resort forums, (http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1033409, thank you very much to those who answered my questions,) it seemed that Pop was getting the most positive reviews.
After looking into even more information on Pop on sites such as All Ears and Mouse Planet, as well as here on the DIS, I decided to book there.
I booked through Disney on their website. I don't like travel agents that much, as they don't seem to know as much as I do about WDW, though I also seemed to think that about one or two CM's when I made my ADR's last year. Besides, Disney sent me a nice letter saying they were looking foward to seeing me. I always get giddy whenever I recieve something in the mail concerning my trip.
I put in a request for a room in the 50's or 70's, not wanting to have to pay an extra $100 for a few feets walk, or being so far back in the 80's or 90's. Not that I don't have every intention of walking back there when I explore the resort - something I never did at the All Star Music, I walked by the Jazz and Calypso buildings every day, but never walked over to the Country or Broadway buildings. But, I don't want to have a long walk back to my room every night after a long day at the parks.
If you've read my Oct report, (there's a link to it at the begining of this one,) you might've noticed that I always went from park opening to park closing, rarely taking breaks, and only leaving the parks at night when there were certain shows, (Lost and Desperate Housewives,) that I just had to see. Another good thing about going in Dec is that those shows are usually in reruns then.
The only thing that I'm midly concerned about is that transportation may be an issue. I've read reports saying that Pop is better, and some saying Pop is worse. I'm not looking for super-fast buses. I leave my room around 8:00 in the morning - assuming the parks open at 9:00, so I can be at the parks when they open. I just don't want to get stuck in a mob scene.
I've also read that the food court is an improvment over the All Stars - though I'm still going to stay away from the pizza. I started another thread on the restaurant board about the Pop food court. Food is a major concern of mine. If you've read my last trip report. . . (in fact, if you haven't just go read it now before continuing, since I'll be refrencing and comparing to it a lot, and I'd hate to confuse you.) So, anyway, I'm not a picky eater, but I don't like tasteless, unseasoned, over-cooked, food.
On Feb 25th, a good nine months out, I booked my room. Here's hoping I like it.
Room Budget - $1,000
Actual Cost - $968.99
So I'm already $32.01 below my budget. (Which will probably be end up getting spent on souveniers.)
Choosing A Flight
I'd been watching flight prices for several weeks, okay, more like two months, on the various websites - Travelocity, Orbitz, Expedia, etc, and it always seemed like Travelocity had the lowest prices. Since I had booked with them before and had been happy, decided to book with them again.
The flight, for me, is always the most boring, less thought out, Disney-less, aspect of my trip. (It's also the only thing I book, that I'm not booking directly through Disney.)
I knew I wanted an early flight. After all, a later flight would just mean less time in the parks, and I wouldn't want that. Since I'm getting an AP, it won't make any difference on the number of days left on my park pass, the room will cost the same no matter how early or late my flight is, and who would want to sit around all day waiting for it to be time to go to the airport. Though, like those Disney commericials, when the people are to excited to sleep, that's what I'm like, so it's just as well that I book an early flight since I'm not that patient when it comes to going.
When it comes to leaving it's another story. I don't want an early flight this time, I want to stay in Disney as long as possible. But, not so late that it's after midnight when I get home. So I settled on a 2:30 flight, and then I'll be home in time for dinner.
Flight Budget - $250
Actual Cost - $254.05
It would have actually been $233.10, but I always seem to get paranoid that my bags will be lost, and while that wasn't the most up-front thought in my head, by the time I actually get close to my trip, I'll start panicing a little. So to calm myself ahead of time, I paid the extra $16 for insurance.
Park Tickets
Last year I spent $300 on a ten-day MYW pass with hopping and the extras like admission to the water parks. While I took full advantage of the hopping privledges, (and I reccomend everyone goes for this option,) I didn't use a single extra. I did go to Downtown Disney, but just for shopping, I never made it to Pleasure Island, or West Side for that matter.
So, this year, I decided to get an AP for three reasons. 1) I could hop from park to park without worrying about using any extra days, 2) I could take advantage of AP discounts, and get the DDE, and 3) It would make a 2007 trip possible.
I haven't bought the AP yet, but am planning on ordering it by the end of the month.