Disney Early Morning Magic - Details & Prices

[G719]

http://www.kennythepirate.com/2016/...-magic-fantasyland-and-how-much-will-it-cost/

Per this part of the post, I think this cost will be in addition to your park admission ticket:

How does it work?

1. You’ll pass through security check point.
2. You’ll touch your admission ticket or MagicBand with valid park admission (required) at the Mickey touch points.

ETA: posted at the same time as other poster.lol

 

[Jennasis]

There are really so few EMH offered to resort guests now that it hardly feels like a benefit at all for staying onsite.

 

[Hezzy04]

They don't have to leave! Valid park admission is required!
http://www.kennythepirate.com/2016/...-magic-fantasyland-and-how-much-will-it-cost/

Oh gosh...I missed that! That makes it even worse!!

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Attention all PPO BOG ADR holders .... If these are your dates plan thwarted. 7DMT will be owned by this group until park opening. No early rides......and at opening they may all be in line again for last ride.

Ugh, I hope this doesn't happen in July, and/or I hope they honor existing ADRs.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

How would they be sure the people paying for this left the park at 10? Wouldn't they blend in with the crowd and then Be able to stay for the full day?

Deleted since like 5 other people already pointed this out.

 

[jbish]

OMG - this merging of the threads on similar topics is making my head spin. LOL

I'm sure once we see a few dates actually published, they will get posted here. That's what I need now. I need to see just how annoyed I need to be - like just annoyed because I think it's tacky and a money grab? Or really annoyed because now my plans have been turned upside down???

 

[Hezzy04]

They will ALSO require regular admission tickets for the early entry folks.

I somehow missed that! That makes it even worse! Wow...I hope we get more info soon. Now my whole plans might need to be looked over again, since this could kill my rope drop advantage...

 

[anniemae]

OMG - this merging of the threads on similar topics is making my head spin. LOL

me too! and for some reason the posts are not in order. The newer posts are in the middle of the thread, and what is supposed to be the most recent post (the last post of the thread) is an old post, that was posted an hour ago!

 

[MakiraMarlena]

This one is going to be popular.

I believe park admission is required to attend this event, so they won't be kicking out guests with no park admission.

 

[onetoescape]

if it was Frontierland then I would go for this the three rides don't appeal to me.

 

[uccats97]

WHY mention the "10AM?"

Maybe to encourage people paying for this to take advantage of the rides and wait until the rest of the park opens at 9, when their exclusive access ends, to go to Pinocchio's and get their breakfast from 9-10. To me, using 9-10 for breakfast would negate the entire reason for paying extra to have early access. You would effectively be losing out on the first regular hour of super light crowds and not really saving any time at all. Seems like that hour would be better spent in Fronteirland or Tomorrowland and not on a "cheap" continental breakfast.

 

[MickeyPretzel15]

I'm sure the breakfast that's offered is going to be a hectic experience, to say the least.

I can't imagine that anyone is going to pass on pre-drop ride time to eat, or even the hour after rope drop when crowds are still manageable, so everyone who's actually interested in getting the breakfast they paid for is going to flood the restaurant right before 10.

That fact, combined the early access being limited to just three rides, makes this a hard no for me.

 

[anniemae]

Was this the "other" announcement we were waiting for? There was a thread about how the $150 evening exclusive party was leaked and there was another "something" coming down the pike. Was this it??

 

[sretav]

Instead of calling it "Extra Morning Magic" they need to change the name to "Extra Hour Not That Magical" ...

So, since you have to also have a regular park ticket, depending on your length of ticket you will pay anywhere from $183 US for 1 day plus 1 extra hour and breakfast to $109 US for 10 day tickets plus 1 extra hour and breakfast. Keep adding $69 to that multi ticket if you want more "Extra Hour" mornings. Definitely doesn't sound all that magical to me.

 

[MrWonderful]

Who is thinking these things up? Did Disney hire a new marketing person or something? We were seriously thinking of making a fall trip, but no more. Disney has lost this customer (which is what I am now; no longer a GUEST) for the foreseeable future.

Robert A. Chapek –Chairman,Walt Disney Parks and Resorts

This is the "new" guy and I would like to *****slap him upside his skull right about now. Well not physically, but I'd sure like to give him my .02 for sure... not even a "theme park" guy.... frickin idiocy... He is known as a developer of "New Revenue Streams".... He sold Ketchup before his Dis gig. seriously

 

[decoy7375]

I am ok with this. I would not pay it but it has no impact on the regular day ticketed guests. You are not creating more of a crowd as these people already have to have a ticket for the day. I can not imagine paying for these. I would rather add days to my trip for the cost and go more days to the park..

While this may not increase the overall crowds for the day, it certainly will have a negative impact on those guests who arrive for rope drop and focus on Fantasyland.

Actually, after thinking about this more...for me and my family...this totally dismantles the way in which we spend our first 6 ish hours in the park. I won't bother with the specifics but it has ripple effects. Right now I see this as a fairly substantial loss...for us...not everybody but for us.

 

[SaintsManiac]

I'll keep my CP ADR and then head to an empty Adventureland like we did last time. It was a great morning!

 

[AngiTN]

http://www.kennythepirate.com/2016/...-magic-fantasyland-and-how-much-will-it-cost/

Another day... another extra charge item to add to the list.

Depending on the dates - this is going to screw up anyone using an ADR to gain early entry into the park.

Why? Are they not going to be able to eat? Isn't that what an ADR is for? To eat

 

[Robo]

Maybe to encourage people paying for this to take advantage of the rides and wait until the rest of the park opens at 9, when their exclusive access ends, to go to Pinocchio's and get their breakfast from 9-10. To me, using 9-10 for breakfast would negate the entire reason for paying extra to have early access. You would effectively be losing out on the first regular hour of super light crowds and not really saving any time at all. Seems like that hour would be better spent in Fronteirland or Tomorrowland and not on a "cheap" continental breakfast.

I agree with you.

So, again... WHY mention the "10AM?"
It will be nothing but trouble for them to try to explain it to angry guests.

 

[PetePanMan]

looks like WDW is now working on an updated 3 tier system: i) regular guests not staying on wdw property ii) guests staying on wdw property, and iii) the new "extra important rich guests who are willing to pay even more to avoid crowds".

 

[Hezzy04]

If all the characters were out to meet during this time, that's when I might have considered it! For just 3 rides....the 2 of which my family cares about, we have FP+ for.....not worth it!

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

Couple complaints I don't get:
Disney nickel and dime people too much- if you don't want to do it, don't. They are offering something extra, not making you pay for something you already do.

Well, I think in many cases the complaint or concern there is that it will negatively affect the baseline experience, which some of these things could. Any change can have that impact. I was looking forward to having a quiet late afternoon going on Primeval Whirl with my girls as many times as they can stand with a 20 min wait. ROL and night safari likely make that completely unlikely. I expect there will be some good sized crowds in AK looking to do rides while they wait. I'm not, however, going to say they never should have added ROL because of it.
But that's also something I'm interested in seeing myself. If it had no value in my eyes (or was way overpriced) I would probably be frustrated that it's affecting my experience.

There's also possibly frustration that people would want to do some of these new special things but on top of all other costs it's too much. Fair complaint but also that's life. Not confined to Disney.

And also in the case of the morning addition, they are monetizing something people got for less money previously so it feels like something is being taken away. True that it was not something they were entitled to to begin with but Disney encouraged it in the way they set things up. Fair for people to feel frustrated that it is being "taken away,". I also feel like this is coming as they are cutting baseline experiences (no more FPs for parades and fireworks so it does look like a money grab. Is that rational, not necessarily, but Disney is in the people pleasing business so like it or not, they need to pay attention to how people feel about their changes and include that in their math. It's in their (and their shareholders) best interests.

 

[GillianP1301]

I don't think this is a response to people using early ADRs to get a jump on the rope droppers, because I don't actually think that is an issue for WDW. I really just think this (as well as the late night one) is a way to offer EMH to off-site visitors. It now puts a $ value on those extra hours and ups the value proposition on their nightly resort charges big time.

 

[Crystal824]

Well, with this one at least you get breakfast. Am I going to do this? Probably not, but I could see the appeal of this for those who have short trips....you get breakfast and a few rides prior to opening. I do think there should be more than 3 attractions open or instead of Winnie the Pooh, throw in Princess Fairytale Hall.

 

[uccats97]

I agree with you.

So, again... WHY mention the "10AM?"
It will be nothing but trouble for them to try to explain it to angry guests.

To justify the cost? Makes it sound more valuable to pay $69 for 2 hours and 15 min than for 1 hour and 15 min...
Not for me. I'm disappointed that this will likely take the value out of a pre park opening ADR.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Well, with this one at least you get breakfast. Am I going to do this? Probably not. I could see the appeal of this for those who have short trips....you get breakfast and a few rides prior to opening.

Yet another thing you used to be able to do for free.

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

So two or three things. This either has to be limited to the number of people they can serve breakfast between 9 and 10 or it'll be a big mess and turn people off. That should kee the numbers very limited so it seems like it will be more like they added another restaurant with pre-park ADRs.

Not sure what they do with the ADR folks.

This seems more reasonable than the after hours thing but still not something my family will do (a little more tempting though).

I'm guessing RD is going to happen closer to 9 than 8:45 those days.

Here's hoping they aren't on my MK days. Although it doesn't sound as bad as it could have been.

 

[sretav]

Doesn't MK "unofficially" open around 8:30 to 8:45 on a lot of days? They will have to stick to a firm 9 am opening if they do this or rope off Fantasyland or these 3 rides so only "paying customers" can get in the lines until exactly 9 am.

 

[jbish]

EVERYTHING is for sale at Disney World these days. Seriously, it's a bit tacky.

This is exactly my thought. It just screams cheap and tacky and so un-Disney.

 

[kittyab]

I wont pay $69 a head for breakfast and to ride 3 rides. But I am sure there will be plenty who will.

 

[snayak]

But people have been making pre opening ADRs for years upon years. If BoG is the problem, then FIX BOG. Make it a TS for breakfast and charge accordingly. Or leave it as a CS, but enforce the prix fix for everyone who walks in. This new thing is NOT the solution.

AND if the park still opens at 9:00, that makes the whole thing even more ridiculous. Now you're paying an extra $70 for essentially ONE HOUR? Who is going to do that?

Perhaps, in Disney's mind, this is a fix. DAH has some appeal to me, but this doesn't, I would much rather pay more for extra FP+ or ExpressPass - but, I can understand their rationale. Just like the Wishes Dessert party started after people would stand at Tomorrowland Terrace (for free!) and watch Wishes, this is just capitalizing on current guest behavior and closing some loopholes.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

The one thing that bothers me is outside the theming of the hotels, the EMHs are the main unique selling point for staying on-site. You can easily stay off-site for a fraction of the cost.

The idea - or speculation, rather, of EMHs going away is really taking the wind out of my sails for this Christmas trip. Why are we gonna pay thousands of dollars to stay at BC when all it really gets us is walking distance to one of the parks and theming? We can save a couple grand and stay offsite at a very nice hotel.

I'm usually very cup half full, but this is pointing in a grim direction.

I would suspect that a morning EMH day would not be a "select date" for this kind of thing.

EMH is something Disney has actually positioned as a value, and I think they maintain that. Some of the other "values" that people are upset about being disrupted have never been part of Disney's marketing statements. A PPO breakfast has never been marketed as early park access; it's been marketed as dining.

 

[pens4821]

I wouldn't do it, but I don't think it's that bad to be honest. You figure an all you can eat breakfast is $30 ish, so you're paying $30 some for riding three rides with little wait. It would be nice if there were a couple more rides open, but it is two of the longest wait attractions in the park. Honestly, to me, the value isn't that bad at all. As for the till 10, even though it's not exclusive until 10, you figure you'd have been on the long wait rides and where most will head at rope drop, so now you can head to maybe BTMRR and splash where there will be little wait, then head back for your breakfast.

I also feel they should stop the pre opening ADR's, or limit them to restaurants where you're paying for everyone in your party. If they allow BOG, make it a per person cost. While I know people are loving the loophole, Disney is stupid to allow it to continue.

Couple complaints I don't get:
Disney nickel and dime people too much- if you don't want to do it, don't. They are offering something extra, not making you pay for something you already do. And if they do end up making BOG per person, they are just making sure people actually eat and not buy a cupcake for 5 people (which is talked about here frequently). Could it be considered nickel and dime? Yeah, but it's being smart.

This is the end of EMH- no one knows, but it's getting annoying reading this over and over in ever thread with new things. I honestly don't see it, even if these events take off, but even if it does happen lets try to remain calm until there is any actual legit rumor of it happening.

 

[Rivergirl2005]

I really hope its only offered once or twice a week and not four or five mornings....

 

[leeber01]

I actually would actually prefer this to paying $25 for a plate at BoG, or $32 at CP and then hoping for an early morning ride somewhere. Guaranteed access makes it attractive. Think about all those people who book a pre-park open ADR hoping for an early ride somewhere, but being disappointed when it doesn't happen for whatever reason. But wait! You only paid for a breakfast, and aren't entitled to anything else, right--not even an empty Main Street.

You could do all 3 available rides, and have breakfast, then head to another land around 9, still putting you ahead of the RD crowds. The price point makes it just accessible enough to generate a lot of interest, I bet.

If nothing else, maybe this will open up some ADRs at BoG for breakfast.

 

[SnipsNSnails]

If they threw in A&E it would sell out. My guess is they don't want the characters because it would back up and people would get mad that it wasn't quick. I might just head to breakfast first as everyone will probably head to the rides. If you are fast eaters, you would surely have 45 min. to ride or more or maybe Pooh first as one ride on that is enough for me. I would not waste rope drop time eating though. I can see this being attractive to off-site guests who weren't able to get 7DMT at 30 days. Don't need a FP for PP either then.

 

[4HOLIDAYS]

I am ok with this. I would not pay it but it has no impact on the regular day ticketed guests. You are not creating more of a crowd as these people already have to have a ticket for the day. I can not imagine paying for these. I would rather add days to my trip for the cost and go more days to the park.

The evening ones impact and detracct from the regular ticketed people by adding a lot of crowds-like the MNSSHP and MVMCP. I have been going to them for years, from back when they cleared the park first(way better even if not easy to do now) to the way it is now. I think at the very least they should not be allowed FP for the pre event hours to event ticket holders.

 

[circhead]

Disney is making too many money grabs.

I am a DVC member and all of the rumored changes have me rethinking my vacation dollars.
Disney after Dark
Disney Early Morning Magic
Resort fees
What's next?
"Did you actually want a bed in your room? - that will cost an additional $25.00 per night."

Come on Disney knock it off - you're ticking people off.
You are no longer the company whose theme parks I fell in love with in the 80's.
I probably spent more in the 80's because you were picking my pocket with a much lighter touch.
My wallet was out and open in those days - now I'm in sticker shock, with all the additional charges.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Is this refundable like a prepaid ADR?

 

[Crystal824]

Yet another thing you used to be able to do for free.

Not really. Yes, you could always do early ADRs, and maybe get one attraction or so in prior to opening, but you didn't get a full hour in the park with attractions running prior to opening. Am I likely to do this? No, but this does appeal to me a bit more than the after hours event. At least you get a meal with this one. I do think it should include more attractions especially PFTH. Those lines can get crazy. I can see how this would appeal to offsite guests and those with shorter trips.