Disney Early Morning Magic - Details & Prices

[Nancyg56]

Exactly.
People were already "paying" for this perk by doing an overpriced BOG breakfast. So Disney just made it official. Disney probably saw that the number of cancellations (or getting very little to eat) for these early breakfasts and realized that people were just willing to pay $10/person for early access to the park.

So why not make close the "loophole" and make it an official event where they can officially control it and make it available to more than just people able to score an early BOG breakfast reservation.

I don't see what people are complaining about. WE created the demand .. Disney is just filling it. And to expect them to fill a demand FOR FREE is just silly.

Exactly. Disney may not close the BOG loophole in regards to allowing people to share, but on the days that Disney is selling Extra magic mornings those people will no longer have access to the Mine train queue before the park opens.

I do not like all of the changes that I have heard are going to occur, but I do not think every change means that guests are being "cheated" by removing perks. Some of those perks were never promised. And like any Pixie Dust that occurs, the little gift of Mine Train up and running before RD got out of hand I bet.

 

[jknc]

I haven't been to a DVC sales presentation, but I'm guessing they talked about more perks than "just a room".

They sell the dream

 

[Nancyg56]

My comment wasn't specific to the morning event, just park employees in general.

I don't think their morning full-timers will care much as many are more mature adults and would be happy to come in early.
My DD did worked in the parks and have very good friend now.
Your morning/day employees are a lot of older full timers. They do their hours they are allowed to work and leave. Disney doesn't hand out overtime easily. I met many who have to have a second job.
Younger full timers have to earn their time and work the evenings and into the dark of night. Many times much longer hours than most can imagine.
When the night event news broke (too early since MK CMs hadn't even been told) we actually told our friend. She was VERY UPSET.
Imagine working 4 pm to 3 am and later back to back to back for MINIMAL pay.
Then be told you have to take days off no pay because you worked too much.
Disney is not normal work, not normal industry and there are lots of educated young people trying to live the dreams, pay their dues and move up that are going to walk.
DD already left. She, like many, had Disney forever as a dream. Then reality.

And do you know what is one of their biggest complaint besides hours and pay ............. guest behavior. And it's only going to get worse. Isn't that sad.

I don't doubt it. I am sorry that this is part of what happens in Disney, but not surprised, My niece was a CM in DLR for a year on the College Program. I had a bubble or two burst then.

 

[smiths02]

Yes, unfortunately when people pay crazy high prices for things they tend to have high expectations. I can see where that would be problematic for cast members.

I think that there are going to be problems if any ride goes down, if lines are too long, and then you will have the people who miss breakfast OR try to come get breakfast at 9:55 and complain.

 

[abner1776]

I wish Disney would get rid of early morning ADR's. Two years ago in March, I took the behind the scenes tour at 8am when the park opened at 9. We had main st all to ourselves for the 1st hour of the tour...absolutely no one was in the park. Two weeks ago, I took the marcelene tour at 8am when the park opened at 9. You would have thought the park opened at 8am there were so many people on main st and I would assume they were going to BOG or the castle for breakfast...it was crazy. I am sure that when the park opened at 9 there were few people still waiting in line as most were already in the park, and now they want to open at 7:45 to squeeze a few more $$$ out of us poor slobs. As PP said...rope drop now has little meaning.

 

[Slapshot1188]

And the trolling of the fans by Disney continues...

No end in sight as long as folks continue to say 'Thank You Sir, May I have Another!"

 

[goofy Jr. 88]

We loved the perk of having main street to ourselves when we would go to Cinderella's Royal Table for an early entry ADR. Not sure if we will be able to get this type of picture next trip.

 

[Gillyrose779]

My comment wasn't specific to the morning event, just park employees in general.

I don't think their morning full-timers will care much as many are more mature adults and would be happy to come in early.
My DD did worked in the parks and have very good friend now.
Your morning/day employees are a lot of older full timers. They do their hours they are allowed to work and leave. Disney doesn't hand out overtime easily. I met many who have to have a second job.
Younger full timers have to earn their time and work the evenings and into the dark of night. Many times much longer hours than most can imagine.
When the night event news broke (too early since MK CMs hadn't even been told) we actually told our friend. She was VERY UPSET.
Imagine working 4 pm to 3 am and later back to back to back for MINIMAL pay.
Then be told you have to take days off no pay because you worked too much.
Disney is not normal work, not normal industry and there are lots of educated young people trying to live the dreams, pay their dues and move up that are going to walk.
DD already left. She, like many, had Disney forever as a dream. Then reality.

And do you know what is one of their biggest complaint besides hours and pay ............. guest behavior. And it's only going to get worse. Isn't that sad.

I worked retail- getting to work at 5:30am and working 12-14 hour days are the dues I paid so I could take classes in the evening.

4pm to 3am with a 1 hour break means 10 hour days so 4 days a week- 1 extra day off. Like I said- it's what you are use to. New comers will not know "the good ol' days" of shorter hours and not complain. The current employees (like current guests) are use to a certain way and there will be complaints.

Sounds like that is what you need to do to get your foot in the door with Disney and move up. Not too different to many occupations/companies. My FIL was a Partner at an accounting firm and my husband spent many years in public accounting. Sacrifices are huge to get to the top. I bet it's good for the younger full-timers to get a taste of that now.

 

[jbish]

I haven't been to a DVC sales presentation, but I'm guessing they talked about more perks than "just a room".

They absolutely did. And I don't care how many DVC members tell me that I bought a room and ONLY a room, that is NOT how they sell it. They sell all the "perks" too. If you don't think that's part of the sales pitch, then I got a different sales pitch than others, I guess.

 

[Nancyg56]

And the trolling of the fans by Disney continues...

No end in sight as long and folks continue to say 'Thank You Sir, May I have Another!"

You know, there is a pretty good discussion taking place that details the reasons some people are not opposed to this addition, as well as the reasons others feel this event is one more straw that will destroy their Disney trips. None of us are Trolls, and none of us spend our vacation dollars willy-nilly....signing onto every dessert party sold or proposed.

Many of us do not see a negative impact by this particular event, while others feel very strongly that this is the beginning of the end of their Disney vacations. It is my own opinion that when one just pipes in with an insulting comment, it detracts from the integrity of the conversation, which BTW, has been very civil, despite the strong opinions we all hold.

 

[Nancyg56]

We loved the perk of having main street to ourselves when we would go to Cinderella's Royal Table for an early entry ADR. Not sure if we will be able to get this type of picture next trip.

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Ever since BOG opened I think this picture has been almost out of reach. I remember our early morning breakfasts at CP. Very quiet Main Street. Not any longer. That restaurant is huge!

 

[HopperFan]

I worked retail- getting to work at 5:30am and working 12-14 hour days are the dues I paid so I could take classes in the evening.

4pm to 3am with a 1 hour break means 10 hour days so 4 days a week- 1 extra day off. Like I said- it's what you are use to. New comers will not know "the good ol' days" of shorter hours and not complain. The current employees (like current guests) are use to a certain way and there will be complaints.

Sounds like that is what you need to do to get your foot in the door with Disney and move up. Not too different to many occupations/companies. My FIL was a Partner at an accounting firm and my husband spent many years in public accounting. Sacrifices are huge to get to the top. I bet it's good for the younger full-timers to get a taste of that now.

I disgree. Apples and Oranges to compare Disney theme park work and other industries.

 

[Slapshot1188]

You know, there is a pretty good discussion taking place that details the reasons some people are not opposed to this addition, as well as the reasons others feel this event is one more straw that will destroy their Disney trips. None of us are Trolls, and none of us spend our vacation dollars willy-nilly....signing onto every dessert party sold or proposed.

Many of us do not see a negative impact by this particular event, while others feel very strongly that this is the beginning of the end of their Disney vacations. It is my own opinion that when one just pipes in with an insulting comment, it detracts from the integrity of the conversation, which BTW, has been very civil, despite the strong opinions we all hold.

Perhaps you should re-read my post. It is not the fans that are trolling. It is the Disney folks who keep making more and more outlandish price increases/service cuts. If you would like, I can list them all, but I don't think we really need to go down that long list...

 

[mom2rtk]

I haven't done rope drop since BOG opened for breakfast. I figured what everyone is describing would be the case.

Is it possible that Main Street empties out around 8:15 or 8:30 or are there still too many people coming in? I just figured we would forego the early rides and dawdle a bit until things cleared out for photos before heading to breakfast.

 

[ITALIANNYC]

70 for an hour/half!!!

Geez. Hey Disney, being money hungry isn't very magical.

I find it insulting to even offer this.

And for the people saying familes go to for breakfast paying the same price to get in the park early. Well then in this case, I would take the 10 dollar no show fee and just get in the park early to look around and still be first in line for the ride I want to hit first.

Resort fees, EMH fees, magic bands probably will cost a fee one day, magical express fee one day.. etc etc.. It won't ever end if the paying customers don't express some sort of outrage to it.

 

[goofynut41]

This is not fair for everyone of us staying in a Disney resort that wants the EMH to get ahead of the crowds! Once again its all about the money...

 

[Gillyrose779]

I disgree. Apples and Oranges to compare Disney theme park work and other industries.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree then- LOL

I can't see that theme park work is different then any other field. I even remember working at a 24 hours grocery store in high school- one day I could be called in at 5.30 am- the next work until 1am- but I couldn't dare work over 32! I was only part time! LOL Don't even get me started on tax season as an accountant or having to drive to a client 5 hours away after a snow storm and not getting there until midnight to turn around and work at 6 am- no overtime of course- you are a salaried employee silly.. don't think about the hours you worked too much- you don't want to know what your hourly wage would actually come to.

 

[revdon64]

You know, there is a pretty good discussion taking place that details the reasons some people are not opposed to this addition, as well as the reasons others feel this event is one more straw that will destroy their Disney trips. None of us are Trolls, and none of us spend our vacation dollars willy-nilly....signing onto every dessert party sold or proposed.

Many of us do not see a negative impact by this particular event, while others feel very strongly that this is the beginning of the end of their Disney vacations. It is my own opinion that when one just pipes in with an insulting comment, it detracts from the integrity of the conversation, which BTW, has been very civil, despite the strong opinions we all hold.

I'm in no way defending the previous poster's comments about trolling (Although I don't think it was directed at folks on this board so much as it was at Disney Corp), but I do take issue with one of your points. In bold you said that many don't see a negative impact. Sure, no one SEES a negative impact yet because they haven't actually held one of these events yet. But I'm pretty confident in saying that crowds of people in the park before opening, riding rides and queing up for rides is definitely going to impact the way that people who get up early and hit rope drop experience the park. It basically destroys that strategy to maximize your ROI. The way I see it, the only reason to rope drop on a morning with this event is to see the opening show, and I can watch that on youtube. Seems to me that Disney is trying to force everyone into 3 rides via FP and spend the rest of your time and money in our restaurants and shops. At some point, the money well is going to run dry if you keep on alienating people.

 

[tlmadden73]

I guess I don't understand the complaints as this is something extra that doesn't effect a "normal" person's visit to a park. Morning EMH already affects rope drop for offsite guests (and guests who don't want to wake up early). We pay a premium to stay at a Disney resort and use EMH .. now an off-site guest can get the same experience somewhat . .but just have to pay for it in a different way.

Sure it "sounds" greedy, but did people complain when Bibbidty Bobbity Boutique was created ... because it is an expensive special event inside the park (after paying park tickets)? Is Disney being greedy there? Or are they just offering something they think that guests who want to spend some extra money enjoy? What about VIP tours? Is that greedy? Or is that offering a service that people are willing to pay for?

Do we feel the price is too high? Probably not considering how many people WILL buy this. If it was too cheap than everyone would do it and it wouldn't be special and it would always be sold out. Imagine if this was $25 .. people would complain because they couldn't do it because it was always sold out. Disney has to find a price point that isn't too high and isn't too low.

The fact remains that change happens .. and Disney's popularity is at an all-time high, so they are offering extras for those who have (and want) to spend the money. The fact remains there are plenty of people who PAY FOR these "extra" perks .. Deluxe resorts, character meals, dessert parties, and now early and late entry.
Disney isn't being greedy. There are just being smart. If they get too greedy and prices truly ARE too high. People will stop coming.

 

[Hezzy04]

I guess I don't understand the complaints as this is something extra that doesn't effect a "normal" person's visit to a park. Morning EMH already affects rope drop for offsite guests (and guests who don't want to wake up early). We pay a premium to stay at a Disney resort and use EMH .. now an off-site guest can get the same experience somewhat . .but just have to pay for it in a different way.

Sure it "sounds" greedy, but did people complain when Bibbidty Bobbity Boutique was created ... because it is an expensive special event inside the park (after paying park tickets)? Is Disney being greedy there? Or are they just offering something they think that guests who want to spend some extra money enjoy? What about VIP tours? Is that greedy? Or is that offering a service that people are willing to pay for?

Do we feel the price is too high? Probably not considering how many people WILL buy this. If it was too cheap than everyone would do it and it wouldn't be special and it would always be sold out. Imagine if this was $25 .. people would complain because they couldn't do it because it was always sold out. Disney has to find a price point that isn't too high and isn't too low.

The fact remains that change happens .. and Disney's popularity is at an all-time high, so they are offering extras for those who have (and want) to spend the money. The fact remains there are plenty of people who PAY FOR these "extra" perks .. Deluxe resorts, character meals, dessert parties, and now early and late entry.
Disney isn't being greedy. There are just being smart. If they get too greedy and prices truly ARE too high. People will stop coming.

I don't care that they are doing this. What I care about is that we don't have dates yet, and I have already made ADRs and FP+ and this was not something I had to take into consideration at all when I did that. I really just wish it had been announced earlier.....although I guess maybe dates won't be available for quite a while....but I am assuming this will be starting within the next month....which does irritate me. I would have just like to know about it so I could have taken it into consideration when planning my park days.