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alwechsler

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I read most of the reviews on here and I see that everyone seems happy. We went on the 7 night cruise starting April 19 and a lot of things went wrong. I would like to know if anyone had problems on their cruise that were NOT THEIR fault. Disney did A LOT of things wrong and admit some, but not all of it. Disney may say that they cared, but they definetly showed differently with their actions and I am disgusted. We will NEVER go on another Disney Cruise and maybe what happened to us should be something for people to consider when going or planning a cruise.

The compensation that Disney offered for a horrible cruise with Disney making major mistakes was:

A Disney Book, a Disney towel, 3 Medium adult plain Disney Cruise Line T-shirts (the shirts that were ruined were small children size and nice shirts from Disney World) and 2 $150 onboard credits for our next Disney Cruise.

When I discussed with them that I was insulted by this compensation. They informed me that this was the last conversation that they intended to have with me about it. Everything that happened even though they admitted most of it was "just unfortunate".

I would like to know if others have had problems. on their cruises. This division of Disney is not like any other. The others seem to care and be accomodating.

If you had a bad experience on a Disney Cruise, please repond here and maybe we can all them know and they can change what they are doing. I think for the amount paid for these cruises they should stand better behing their product.
 
What exactly happened that ruined you clothes? What were the other issues involved? Were you dealing with guest services and who was the cast member? Beth
 
Personally I was very pleased with Disney and the crew. That said problems can arise. Until you can tell us what occurred that insulted you hard to comment on Disney's response.
Cheers,
Grumbo
 
Ditto with Grumbo. When I cruised in Jan I had a couple minor things come up but they were rectified within the day. The customer service I have gotten from DCL has always been top notch. But as I mentioned, my problems were minor. Without knowing what happened and how it is hard for me to comment.

Have a Disney Day!!1:smooth:
 

Hard for me to find fault with with DCL:)

On our first cruise with DCL, my DMIL passed away. The staff could not have been more helpful in aidng us to leave the ship and get home from the next port. An unusual circumstance, but handled very well:)

I agree with Grumbo, problems do arise. Could you be specific as to yours? Otherwise there will just be a lot of story trading.

Loretta
 
As I understand it, the Disney organization is extremely sensitive to customer service issues and strives very hard to satisfy, but will take a very hard line when they think someone is trying to con them. Essentially, when it gets to that point their approach is "take us to court if you aren't satisfied. I'm not saying that is what happened here. However, you have given us great detail into how and what you got for "undercompensation", but have been very vague in describing Disney's lousy service to you. If you could give us the details, we may be able to understand your dissatisfaction. Personally, my six cruises with Disney have been the most "customer service" satisfying vacations I have ever had.
 
What happened?

How could they have handled it better?

Was your basis for complaining real firm to be awarded a free cruise?

From your type written attitude it seems like that was your objective.

I would really want to know how bad it could have been.
 
Okay....here is what happened:

1) Our room air conditioner was broken on extremely cold and though they made attempts it was not fixed until Wednesday of the cruise....which meant it was uncomfortable to be in our room and I think that is unacceptable. That is more than half the cruise.

2) My 4 year old son was in the kids program from 10am in the morning and we went to check on him at around 4pm. He was standing up with his eyes rolling and he was swaying....NO ONE NOTICED! My husband and I were alarmed and he ran and got him before he fell over. Immediately I was thinking that he is sick, but he was not. I asked a staff member, has he eaten and the response was, "we do not know...we can not watch them all"...this was disturbing!!!!! I then said, okay (kind of shocked) and I then asked what they had served that day. The response was that they just put a selection of food on the plate and they eat it or not.

We took him to Pinnochios (the pizza place) and he ate 3 pieces of pizza so fast that it scared me. After 30 minutes he looked and felt better. That was the end of meals in the kids program. They offer no substitutes on a ship overflowing with food. I said if a child does not like what is being served can you give him a peanut butter sandwhich, a cheese sandwhich, a piece of pizza...anything....the answer was no. I said can you keep tracking and beep me if he does not eat...they said no...they do not do that.

How could they not notice a child in the condition my son was in?

3) My kids went to the program and were given permanent markers to do artwork with. However, no art smocks were given to the children and the parents were not told to dress the children appropriately before hand. As a result, my children’s brand new clothes (purchased from their trip to Disney World, just a few days before) were ruined. But the most puzzling part to me is what happened next. The program representative, made me believe that they could get the permanent marker. The individual told me that if I would just leave the clothes with them that they would have them cleaned and get out the marker. Somewhat skeptical, I agreed. I asked for the clothes back for days and days. Finally, I was told the clothes were lost. On the last day of the cruise when I asked if they found the clothes, I was told to check the lost and found after disembarkation to see if the clothes had turned up. Incidentally,I did check the lost and found. My family’s clothes were there and they were still ruined. It’s also interesting to note that our names and cabin numbers were on the clothes. Obviously if they wanted me to see them while onboard they could have brought them to me. Now, tell me something what kind of service is this? At the very least, they could have returned the clothes and admitted they couldn’t clean the clothes. Not throw them in the lost and found, hoping the guest wouldn’t show up again. That’s awful.

4) Another issue with the kids program. My 4 year old son was apparently hurt while dancing during the program because another child fell on him. I understand that things happen, but the disturbing issue is how it was handled. My son apparently fell down and asked for some ice to put on the injury. He was told there was no ice and I was paged. When I came to get him, I was told that the child just simply wanted to leave. I immediately noticed that he had a mark on his cheek and that he was crying. They didn’t make any mention as to injury or the situation. How does this happen?

5) Apparently on 04/22/2003 the movie “HOLES” was advertised in the Navigator as a G Rated movie. So, I decided to take my boys ( 7 year old twin and a 4 year old) to this movie. To my surprise and to many others, the first part of the movie contained violence and which I found disturbing in a G Rated movie. As a result my children and others were frightened and left the theatre (my children were shaking and crying). When I asked about the rating and the movie content, the staff told her that they were not responsible for movie ratings and that if it was wrong it was the Disney's fault because they send them the ratings. The truth came out the following day when the movie was advertised as PG-13. Neither one was true..it was a PG. Have any of you seen this movie...it is quite violent! Again, I can understand mistakes. But, why wasn’t the mistake admitted in the next day’s issue of the navigator with an apology to all parents who may have been offended. or an announcement aplogizing to anyone. My 4 year old son would not step back into the Walt Diisney theaters for any shows without having a panic attack and insisting that we leave.

6) My family went to the pool. The pool was dirty and had a strong urine odor to it. We left the pool area and couldn’t swim. Later that day, my husband was attending the Navigator Series and they had mentioned that they were experiencing filtration problems aboard the ship. Now, these two items may or may not have been related however, passengers should be informed if such a situation exists that may effect there vacation. While this is not a big item, it became more of an issue due to the other experiences. DISNEY DENIES THAT THERE WAS ANY PROBLEM WITH THE WATER IN THE POOL OR THE FILTRATION. THEY SAY IT IS MONITORED AND THE WATER WAS JUST FINE....

So, what became of all of this? I tried several times to speak with the purser’s desk and other managers aboard the ship. I was promised phone calls and apologies but received very few. When I left the ship I requested a phone number to call and received a business card with an address to write to. No apology. This was supposed to be taking ourr “Dream Vacation”. After wel she spent over 8,000.00 dollars on this trip. What I got was frustration, worry, aggravation and sleepless nights. I don’t know about you, but this is not my “Dream Vacation”.

As I said before, I can understand things are going to happen. Air conditioners are going to break, problems are going to occur, but what disturbs me is how my concerns were addressed. My concerns were addressed by individuals who didn’t care about us or our children. Their attitude was that everything that happened was just unfortunate...I do not see it that way since they obviously made mistakes and conclude what you want over the shirt thing. The entire reason that I wanted to go on this trip was for the kids prigram...we needed a break and if my kids are happy and well cared for, then my huband and I could have a good time and some time alone. Disney is about kids and family. I know this. I’ve been a fan of Disney and a vacation club member. As a parent, I expect the best from Disney and it’s staff. I don’t expect to be lied to and I expect that my children are being entertained and care for in only a way that Disney can provide.

I hope you all see where I am coming from on this. There were a lot of other parents and people who were disappointed with this cruise. Maybe it was because it was the busiest cruise of the year, but this was our only experience with it and I will not risk my money or my only vacation of the year to see if it can be better. If Disney's offer to me was more serious I might have considered giving it a second chance or atleast would have felt better...to think they cared. They didn't even care enough to send my shirts that were for children.

Arlene
 
It's always hard to tell the exact nature of unpleasant events when you don't experience them first hand.
As far as the air conditioning goes-that would have been a nightmare for me because I hate the cold, but luckily you aren't in the cabin a lot.
I'm surprised that they didn't replace the shirts with something of a similar size for you. Don't they have smocks available? Sometimes kids are offered those and don't choose to use them.
My experience with the kids clubs was not the wonderful things you read here. I do believe there are too many kids for the number of counselors and they can't watch them all. I witnessed a bigger boy pushing my son down repeatedly when I came to sign him out and had to step in myself, I got no response from the staff. I let my son go to lunch 1 time with the kids group and they expect them to be able to take care of themselves, so he chose not to do it again.
I think the counselors have a very hard job dealing with so many kids and some who are very unruly.
We let my son go to the kids activities only when something interested him. It is a group club, not 1 on 1 babysitting and perhaps you were expecting too much. We have no desire to be away from our kids on our family vacation so our expectations were different.
The pool issue is an ongoing problem because parents allow untrained kids in the pool. I'm not sure how disney should address this, but on our 2 cruises we have found them to try to ignore it a lot.
I'm sorry your trip wasn't what you expected, but except for the shirts I believe they offered you a fair compensation--just my opinion. Hope your next vacation is better.
 
I agree with BethA. I think the time in the clubs should be limited for the younger children. Since the nursery staff doesn't know the children that well, it might be a good idea to only let them feed the children a couple times during the cruise. Also, it seems like the younger kids should wear clothes to the lab that they can do crafts in. Perhaps a message should be put in the navigator about this.

In my family, my kids are older. However, we still arranged it so that they met us for our meals each day.

We had a few minor problems on our cruise. Overall, our experience was so great that I can't remember what they were!
 
I have to agree with the two previous posters.
While I know that is not what you were looking for on this board, I do think you were compensated fairly. I mean, if your experience with DCL was totally unpleasant ( as in, there were no good times to be remembered), then why would you go back, even if offered to you free?

My kids are grown, so I have no experience with the children's clubs, but I also wonder about why you let them go back so often if you weren't pleased with the level of care they were providing. JMO.

As for the other things, ask for some correctly sized shirts or maybe they could be used as sleep shirts? The A/C and the pool issues are ones that I think would have to be handled while you were onboard. You might be expressing your disatisfaction to them in a letter, but there's no way for them to see at this point.

I'm sorry your families' vacation was not magical for you
:(

We all put a lot of effort into planning our dream getaways, and it is terrible when the reality doesn't live up to the dream.

Hoping you can still find the magic!

Loretta
 
I was not necessarily looking to go back, but was more hoping that they would take it more seriously. I might have considered it though if they made me an offer and insisted that it was not the norm...which they did not. I gather most of you do not agree with me and that is okay...

I just can not imagine that others have not had similar problems...particularly on that cruise! I met people who did. I was looking to see if others had these similar experiences.

I was just looking for them to have lunch in the program. I was not trying to dump them...just have a little bit of private times while they were in the program.

I wonder how all of you would feel had it been you...

I kept put them back in because I was trying really hard to salvage what there was of my vacation and kept checking on them often.

Someone else mentioned talking about this on board to staff members...I did and they kept saying...the same things....That was unfortunate! Of course, when you are in these situations...it is hard to know what to do. Now, I might have been more forceful with the staff.

I guess my point here...is I expected better. I could have just spent my time at Disney World and the whole family would have had a better time for less money.
 
It always seems when things go bad, they go really bad. As a former Disney Cast Member(Disneyland), and also a member of the service industry, unfortunately because of today's society, really they did all they could do without outright admitting some sort of liability. Not to say that it would ever get that far, but I have had to deal with many situations over the years that initially seemed harmless and then ended up in some sort of legal action. With that being today's environment, a large company like Disney is vulnerable to 100s if not 1000s of legal claims a year dealing with various guest issues. To limits its vulnerability, they must be VERY careful in the language they use when dealing with problems. If they out right admitted to some fault, then they leave themselves open to lawsuits. Any sort of compensation over and above what they offered to you could be considered a bribe of some sort. Even if they,DCL, wanted to, Disney lawyers have probably advised against any large compensation.

When you are dealing with an unhappy guest, no guest wants to hear that sort of explanation. So you just do what you can for the guests and try to improve the situation. Remember, they wouldn't outright say that the children's program had some problems as you mentioned because again it implies there is a problem and therefore, again a liabilty issue.

You are absolutely right Disney of old would have done everything they possibly could to change your experience. That was before lawsuits against McDonald's for spilling hot coffee or for making a person fat. We have to ask ourselves, how did we get to this point?

Sorry about the unhappy experience. Nothing now that anybody says will change that. Remember that,we in the service industry work hard to make your downtime as pleasant as possible and we really do everything that we can do.
 
I'm sure for every one person who has a concern or problem with the kid's programme you're going to have hundreds that rave about it. Look at Cruise Critics survey and you'll see Disney fares well.
We all have expectations or situations that occur that cause us upset or disillusionment with a company or industry. It appears as though you'd made up your mind that you weren't going to return. If you feel as stridently about your treatment as it appears from your post then I don't blame you. Offering ship cruise credits for your NEXT cruise is really a lost leader to Disney. They probably feel you're mad enough you won't return so it won't cost a penny, and IF you do return well they'll get their money back plus more. Win - Win for Disney.
Probably an offer for the present cruise would have been more suitable but guess that wasn't in the cards.
I often times find that after a bit of time I can put bad circumstances and situations into perspective and look at the good things in an experience/holiday and realize things weren't as bad as I'd thought.
Hopefully you'll find your treatment or service on your next holiday more to your liking.
Cheers,
Grumbo
 
After dealing with the Disney legal department, I can tell you that their policy is. (at least what they told us :rolleyes: )

They will not refund or pay for a future vacation at any of their resorts. Once you reach the point of talking to the legal department will only deal in monetary compensation. I doubt anyone on the ship would have the authority to refund your money for the cruise.

Just for the record, we didn't even ask for a refund or future vacation, the attorney just told us that right up front before discussing anything else.
 
It wasn't for the DCL, it was actually for WDW. Everything is still ongoing, so I don't think I can give too much info. Basically, my 3 yr old son was injured 2x during our last trip in Jan 2003. Both times were clearly Disney's fault. We tried to do it by ourselves, just to get medical expenses paid. But, alas, dealing with a mega company like Disney isn't easy and we had to contact a lawyer.

And before any one starts going on about frivolous lawsuits and stuff, we discussed this long and hard before going this route. The only thing we asked for was for them to pay for his medical bill. He will have a scar on his face forever now.

But our situation was a lot different from yours :D The CM's and managment we dealt with immediately after each "problem" were very helpful and really made us all feel better. They were actually the ones to persaude us to call the Legal Dept.
 
I agree with you alwechsler.

It is disgusting the way they treated you. You paid a lot of money for a dream vacation and instead you got staff members who don't care. I see this more and more everywhere I go. Nobody cares. Everybody wants our money but they don't want to give good service. That air-conditioner should have been fixed a lot sooner. If they couldn't, they should have offered you another room. If a room wasn't available then they should have compensated you in some way. Are cameras posted in the childrens clubs. If not they should be. I don't trust anyone. Someone should be montoring what is going on in there. Maybe disney shouldn't be so cheap and hire more staff members for the kids clubs. After all, they are human beings and should be taken care of properly. As far as the shirt business it seems once again no one cared. They probably didn't even try to clean them. They probably just tossed them aside. You have every right to be upset. $8000 is a lot of money for a trip. Some people have to save a long time for something like this. This is no way to be treated on a vacation. I agree with you totally! I have a cruise booked for New Year's Eve 2003. I just might reconsidered.
 
Originally posted by noseybuddy
I agree with you alwechsler.

I see this more and more everywhere I go. Nobody cares. Everybody wants our money but they don't want to give good service. I don't trust anyone.
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I do feel bad for the experience they had. But if we are to judge others perhaps we need to take a look in the mirror and own our part in what is happening with service today or with the lack of trust in others. No one is w/o blame here not even you or I
 
Thanks and I so glad that some people are seeing how I feel! I think Disney's attitude is that they really do not care if they lose a customer.

For the record for those who said it that the compensation seems fair, I do not want one thing that they sent and except for the postage...I would just send it back. The letter they sent me was that they were sending the children special shirts (they are medium adullt...dark blue and say Disney Cruise Line on them). If they were even their size...they would never want to wear them. There are no characters and there nothing special about them (and it does not replace shirts that I bought from Disney World that were really nice and cute...that also fit them).
 
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