Disney and dying.

[Glennie5]

So do I as Im no where nr ready at only 26!!! so many more things I want to do including more trips to Disney with my darling little boys.

I think you are incredibly strong and brave for sharing your story. I hope and pray you get many more trips to Disney with your darling little boys!

 

[North of Mouse]

I'd rather inhale a gust of someone's cremated meemah off the end of the ferry, then inhale a mist of nasty chemical-laden, carcinogen-filled sunscreen spray or second-hand cigarette smoke...which unfortunately is at least a thrice-a-day occurrence in Disney World.
I know it the idea of a cremated body skeeving a lot of people out, but really, it's just dust, dirt, ashes. From ashes to ashes, from dust to dust.
The reality is that we inhale a heap of harmful things everyday, by choice.
The priority just seems a little, off.

I don't like to inhale sunscreen spray either - so rude of people to wait until they're in bag check line or ticket turnstile line to spray the stuff on all 6 family members - don't like to inhale cig. smoke either, also rude of people in places not designated - don't like to knowingly inhale anything yucky I am very allergic to some sunscreen sprays, so it really scares me when people do that.

 

[Glennie5]

Oh dear. It was a joke. I should have followed up with a No need to get worked up. It's disboards

Wasn't getting worked up - just asking a question.

 

[rainynight]

No, because they would be dead. Also, they would not ask me to break the law just to be sentimental.

I have to agree with this. While I have no problem with people spreading "ashes" around, I do think it's kind of silly to care what happens to your physical body when you die, when it really doesn't matter. Will having your ashes spread throughout Disney, or any special place, matter in your afterlife (assuming there is one)? No. You will be dead and the physical world will no longer be important.

Of course I have lost loved ones and have never even gone to their funerals. I guess I don't get the point. Their dead. The memories and love matters more than a ceremony. I don't need to spread ashes or see them laying in a casket to say goodbye or feel closure.

My only death request is to be an organ donor and give my body to a medical school, and my only reason for those request is to help the living. And if my family doesn' fulfill my wishes then so what? I won't be around to care.

It seems kind of selfish to ask your loved ones to do something illegal, or difficult, with your remains. I mean, what if for whatever reason they cannot fulfill your final wishes? They have to spend the rest of their lives beating themselves up over something that absolutely does not matter in the scheme of things.

 

[mad madam mim78]

Lol when I start to post the judas priest song " breaking the law" song starts playing in my head. I don't mind breaking the law as long as no jail time is involved. I'll take a stiff fine. It's my family and that's more important.

 

[Keepee]

The Health and Safety Code states it is a misdemeanor violation to scatter human cremation ashes on private property, which includes all Disney parks, without written permission (even though the ashes pose no threat to health).So does that mean you can go to Disney and ask for written permission to spread cremated ashes so you aren't breaking the law?

Well, you can. But when Disney representatives are asked for such permision their answer is always no.

To deal with the expanding problem, Disney’s custodial department has recently purchased special vacuums with HEPA filters to clean up the symbolic scene. These vacuums can capture the tiny cremated ash of human remains while also capturing the small bone fragments that often remain after the cremation.

When cast members witness the scattering of a powdery substance on a ride, they are required to call the janitorial hotline and quietly use the code "HEPA Cleanup."

I found the above information about Disney`s take on spreading ashes on their properties. Like I said before I am torn on how I feel about this. I can understand why someone who loves Disney would want their ashes spread there. For our family Disney holds our best family memories. I just think that if everyone who loved Disney wanted their ashes spread there it could get a little crazy.
I love the idea of the pp who wanted her children to have a small balloon ceremony at Disney world. I think it is a sweet idea and I hope your operation goes well.

Very helpful, thank you much .

 

[NHKristy76]

Human ashes are not like cigarette ashes. They contain pieces of bone and other material that do not completely burn up. Hence the biohazard. If the aah blows some one could inhale it and it can cause issues fir that person. If my child asked to be spread at Disney I would contact them and arrange to do it legally. In a manner permitted by law.
I guess if people don't mind ashes on main street then they shouldn't mind people urinating on main street. I mean after a few hundred people walk in it who cares. Or changing dirty diapers on a bench. Same thing.
Disney is not a religious institution its a theme park . A fun one but not a place designed for the disposal of human remains and nor should it. Spin it however you want it is illegal. Period end of discussion. If i saw some dump ashes I would alert the nearest cm and point out the person. Whether it on main street or in a ride.

I'm done with this discussion. Obviously people are determined to break the law for their own self fish reasons.

Oh boy! You mean business!!

 

[pixiedustmomma]

In 2003 we found out my mom had brain cancer. She went through surgery, they said they got it all but sadly it came back. When it came back my father sold his company and got a job in Orlando and moved her (and the rest of us) to a subdivision right behind the Magic Kingdom. It was magical for her. We could see the fireworks every night and hear the parade music. My sister and I both ended up working at DTD.

Sadly she passed away in 2004.But her being able to go to Disney whenever she wanted helped her deal with her cancer. It created so many memories for our family. She wanted her ashed spread at Disney and Cedar Point. It never happened and she is with me. When I took my kids to Disney for the first time last year my father wanted me to spread my mother's ashes. I told him I would not. I could just see me getting caught doing it and never being allowed back to the parks. Plus I figure she can go to Disney whenever she wants now. So why does her ashes need to be there?

 

[MistressMerryweather]

Oh boy! You mean business!!

 

[Missy13d69]

Hi
Ive actually had to think about this alot lately Im pretty sick and in 2 wks im due to have major surgery on my head for the 3rd time, This time though its a bit more risky!
even though I have booked a holiday to Disney for september i booked because we wanted to surprise the boys after i recover from my Op,they have been so good tha last 2 years I have to sleep alot and be in hospital on and off,We have broken plans etc and the family has been through quite abit.

I also booked as if anything happened to me during the Op i wanted my Dh and mum to still take the boys on the trip as we have been a few times as a family and we have very happy memories there! We was married at the Disney pavillion and they have had Birthdays etc,
Well whilst at my last consultation and pre-op the consultant told me that I was resuscitated twice last Op and had i thought about a will!!
Im only 26 so NOPE i had not thought about a will exactly.......My wish is to be taken to my happy place the place that i had been to every yr as a child with my parents my dad who is now passed,the place i was Married etc, I now know that you cant actually have a memorial at Disney and be scattered exactly.... but its still my wish that they personally have a wake /ceromany at Disney aswell as having my funeral at home (DISNEY THEMED) im greedy like thatI know at home i have choosen a Balloon release as my boys love balloons and it will be something they can do.I know some people say its not right to do that at Disney but each to their own so i think thats a idea we may roll with.

We are still thinking of what else exactly i would have and of course Im hoping and praying I dont actually have to use the plans any time soon!

I wish you all the best!

 

[tinkerpea]

I think you are incredibly strong and brave for sharing your story. I hope and pray you get any more trips to Disney with your darling little boys!

Thankyou so much I dont always feel very strong! The hardest thing to cope with is not the illness or the arrangements its the thought of never holding my boys again,Knowing that they could grow up without a mum at only 7,7,9 and thinking that I will miss everything new in their lives.

Im trying to thinking positive and my Dh is AMAZING he says nothing will happen to me as im here to make his life hard work for many many more years

 

[tinkerpea]

I have to agree with this. While I have no problem with people spreading "ashes" around, I do think it's kind of silly to care what happens to your physical body when you die, when it really doesn't matter. Will having your ashes spread throughout Disney, or any special place, matter in your afterlife (assuming there is one)? No. You will be dead and the physical world will no longer be important.

Of course I have lost loved ones and have never even gone to their funerals. I guess I don't get the point. Their dead. The memories and love matters more than a ceremony. I don't need to spread ashes or see them laying in a casket to say goodbye or feel closure.

My only death request is to be an organ donor and give my body to a medical school, and my only reason for those request is to help the living. And if my family doesn' fulfill my wishes then so what? I won't be around to care.

It seems kind of selfish to ask your loved ones to do something illegal, or difficult, with your remains. I mean, what if for whatever reason they cannot fulfill your final wishes? They have to spend the rest of their lives beating themselves up over something that absolutely does not matter in the scheme of things.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and I do understand yours, But for my family its different.
I want to make sure that my boys have a way of saying goodbye so that they have some sort of closure! I think they will need to have a way of showing how much they love their mum and to say goodbye (My boys will not be going to a funeral Its not something i want ) So the seperate ceremony is all about them.

I have to think about my funeral arrangments I do NOT want my Dh & mum to have to think about what I would have wanted although Im positive they would have gotten it perfect they know me so well," Dh said he would ask everybody to where pink,purple and bright blue my favourite colours to the funeral and thats exactly what I would have wanted" Im then asking that i have a party afterwards that My boys can come to with pictures of my family in happier times up around the place.

But when it came to my ashes I knew that with my Dh work they would be moving around all over the place I didnt want them to feel like they was leaving me behind which is exactly how my Autistic son would have thought(he wont even leave piglet and eeyore at home when going on holiday and every other teddy has to have party hats left out so they can have fun) so I just knew we had to do something special so they could visit Mummy from where ever they was and for it to be a fun time NOT a sad one

We havent decided on what will happen to my ashes Im still thinking of the diamond situation at least that way i can be with them always or we will find a place that I can be LEGALLY scattered (PART OF ME) that will mean something to all of us.a small amount will be kept so I can be buried with my Dh!!
I will have the Balloon release at Disney and proberly take the flowers from my funeral there aswell to be scattered.

So you see my arrangments are not for my benefit although I of course fully appreciate all the trouble it will take, it is for my little boys

 

[tinkerpea]

I am at a loss. This poor person is facing losing their life and a couple of you are just plain heartless. I've seen her state MULTIPLE times that she isn't planning on doing it yet you keep coming at her and telling her she is wrong. Deegak or whatever your name is, you've tooted your own horn about what you've done and how perfect you are. Driving over the speed limit is breaking the law...PERIOD. That nonsense about going with the flow of traffic would not prevent you from getting a ticket. So therefore you have broken the law.

To the lady that is facing surgery, I pray that everything goes smoothly and that you make a full and wonderful recovery. I pray that you children don't have to know the heartache of losing a parent so young.

To those that are just mean spirited TRY to understand the heartache and frustration and stress that comes with planning your own funeral and knowing that in less than a month's time you could no longer be with your family. Try to think beyond yourself and think of others. Don't waste your life being so negative towards others.

I stopped reading this site a year or so ago because there were so many holier than tho, I am right and I am going to have a fit until you say I am right people. I linked this site to a friend and thought what the hey let's just see what is going on. This is the first thread I looked at and I am sorry to see that nothing has changed. Compassion seems to be dead unless you want it directed at you.

Again to the OP my heart breaks for you. You and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Thankyou so much

I not even the Op i just seen the thread and thought wow I will contibute as its what Im going through right now NEVER did i think that the thread would go the way it has, Im pretty shocked,I definatly dont think Im special because of the situation im in, I just think that if these are somebodys final wishes then I dont mind in the slightest as It has no bearing on me or my family,Ive seen Ashes a few times and it no more then dust.I actually never wanted to be cremated it was always the worst thing to me growing up the idea of it used to make me so upset( Which is why my children will not know what is happening just that im in the sky) But my Dh didnt want to be moving around leaving me behind and I knew my son with the ASD would never want to leave me behind and would have a very real problem with it!
I honestly never thought id have to deal with anything like this any time soon,just goes to show you have no idea what the future holds!

I really appreciate the kind words and wishes and Im positive that I will be returning to the this thread to let all the people that have wished me well know that Im going on that trip with my family!

Cindy xx

 

[fairestoneofall]

oh, for crying out loud. i never cease to be amazed at what people will argue about here.

Tinkerpea, i think your LEGAL balloon release sounds like a lovely tribute. however, i hope your surgery goes well and that you can find true healing. i'm so sorry for all you've gone through.

for the poster who lost her BIL, i am very sorry for your loss.

and for the poster who spoke of losing her husband a few years ago, you are an incredibly strong mother. i am so sorry you and your children had to go through what you've gone through.

 

[North of Mouse]

This is the most morbid thread I have ever read with the OP speaking so "matter of fact" about something that is so serious. Disney talk is supposed to be happy talk please OP, start thinking happy thoughts, don't see how you can talk about this constantly, and so nonchalantly Facing surgery, you need to think positive - this is the kind of attitude that will help you pull through not acting like you're impending demise (your posted feelings, not my thoughts) is almost a sure thing.

 

[tinkerpea]

This is the most morbid thread I have ever read with the OP speaking so "matter of fact" about something that is so serious. Disney talk is supposed to be happy talk please OP, start thinking happy thoughts, don't see how you can talk about this constantly, and so nonchalantly Facing surgery, you need to think positive - this is the kind of attitude that will help you pull through not acting like you're impending demise (your posted feelings, not my thoughts) is almost a sure thing.

Im NOT the Op i posted on the thread as it was relevent to the situation, I dont personally think that the thread is completly Morbid and there are always differnt threads on here about bad things so why is this any different
I dont see the problem that Im speaking Matter of fact about the situation either,Not being funny but i have had to deal with this for 6 years its a pretty long time to get used to it,Im sorry if my feeling and the way I speak about whats happening to myself offend you.
Its not going to help me by thinking happy positive thoughts all the time even if 99% of the time I am In fact positive I went to Legoland today with my boys and had a fantastic day as I was feeling rather well, but either way the surgery is happening and ive learnt to deal with that!
The thread wouldnt have carried on in such a way if it wasnt for certain posters that kept on and on about Rules and laws that wasnt even relevant to me and How we thought we was Special and could break what ever laws we wished to even though I hadnt mentioned breaking even one law.....Just the fact that we had no problem with the spreading of ashes that OTHERS want done.
Of course I hope i pull through and I am a completly positive person But im sorry plans have to be made its what I was told to do by the consultant other wise I would not have even considered it and I didnt when having the past 2 operations, I dont think making sure that my wishes are in place and what I want and dont want for my children means Im not positive through this I could have just left everything down to my poor Dh so that if anything happened he could have all that to deal with on top of everything else.
Again sorry if you dont like the thread and find it not very Disney like

 

[mad madam mim78]

This is the most morbid thread I have ever read with the OP speaking so "matter of fact" about something that is so serious. Disney talk is supposed to be happy talk please OP, start thinking happy thoughts, don't see how you can talk about this constantly, and so nonchalantly Facing surgery, you need to think positive - this is the kind of attitude that will help you pull through not acting like you're impending demise (your posted feelings, not my thoughts) is almost a sure thing.

Yeah I'm the OP and tinker pea I have no doubts your "matter of fact" attitude is what's going to get you and your family through your tough time. Some people really don't understand how you can talk about something so serious and not have a crazy out pour of emotion every time the words come out of your mouth. I can tell you from experience I know where you're coming from and you are truely strong and I have tremendous respect for your "matter of fact" attitude. Keep rockin it and good luck! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

 

[North of Mouse]

Sorry, did not look to see that you were not the OP because of your posts. Yes, I do think dying is a very serious matter, but guess I'm not really used to people talking about it in the manner I'm reading. I can't imagine a big party after a funeral. We mourn, then try to come to grips with the situation and gradually move on with life (not forget), but live. Why would people want to party after losing a loved one? It would be the last thing I would ever do. It's not a "fun, happy" thing, but a serious thing that we all will face some day. I can't imagine wanting to put children through that - what a confusing thing that would be to them. I sure did not want, nor did we, party after my Mom's passing - it was the last thing in our minds. I've heard of it, that's all - would never go to one. Take care, and sure hope your surgery turns out well

 

[Glennie5]

I have to agree with this. While I have no problem with people spreading "ashes" around, I do think it's kind of silly to care what happens to your physical body when you die, when it really doesn't matter. Will having your ashes spread throughout Disney, or any special place, matter in your afterlife (assuming there is one)? No. You will be dead and the physical world will no longer be important.

It seems kind of selfish to ask your loved ones to do something illegal, or difficult, with your remains. I mean, what if for whatever reason they cannot fulfill your final wishes? They have to spend the rest of their lives beating themselves up over something that absolutely does not matter in the scheme of things.

In a way I think having your ashes spread in a place you love is more for those who you have left behind then for yourself. It gives them a place to go the same way people will visit a graveyard. I agree with you that it really won't matter to you once you are dead but it could give you some comfort while you are alive to know that your ashes will be placed in a place you loved (as long as it's legal) and bring comfort to your children.

 

[tinkerpea]

Sorry, did not look to see that you were not the OP because of your posts. Yes, I do think dying is a very serious matter, but guess I'm not really used to people talking about it in the manner I'm reading. I can't imagine a big party after a funeral. We mourn, then try to come to grips with the situation and gradually move on with life (not forget), but live. Why would people want to party after losing a loved one? It would be the last thing I would ever do. It's not a "fun, happy" thing, but a serious thing that we all will face some day. I can't imagine wanting to put children through that - what a confusing thing that would be to them. I sure did not want, nor did we, party after my Mom's passing - it was the last thing in our minds. I've heard of it, that's all - would never go to one. Take care, and sure hope your surgery turns out well

My reason for wanting a party is because I dont think a funeral is a place for 7 yr olds! I dont want them to see what is going to happen to me and to sit being confused and upset,
My friend died of cancer aged 16 after her funeral (it was huge) her parents arranged to have a big party in a hotel with fireworks at the end to CELEBRATE her life it was an amazing time if course there was crying and upset but there was also storys and celebration of what she did achieve in her short life.
Ive also lost a parent I was brought up by my grandparents but didnt know it until i was in my teens and although i still saw my Family in America and lived there on and off with my grandparents i thought of my adopted dad as my parent he passed when i was 15 and i was devastated! The loss completly turned the family upside down My mum (i call my grandparents mum and dad even though i see my Bio-parents) had been with my dad for over 40 years and did not know how to go on with out him she did though for me!

I dont think my boys will be any more confused with my plans for my funeral etc then if I was to put them through a normal funeral They will still know im gone "if it even happens" and will know im in the sky looking down on them they will be told that the party is like a birthday party for me to celebrate how much I loved them!! and of course my family and friends.

I understand YOU might want things different but this is the way I want things done and my family have agreed its the right thing to do,they are happy with everything planned including the trip to Disney for the balloon release,Just because I can talk about it doesnt mean i dont take it serious!Believe me i take it all very serious I dont want to have to even think about these things but ive done it they are sorted and now im enjoying doing what I can with my boys before the Op.
Today we celebrated Farthers day went out to dinner and had a great time so Im not sitting around in the house feeling sorry for myself and dwelling on something that may not even happen! The only reason its been talked about so much is because of the views and posts that followed My Op other wise It would have been 1 post and left at that.
Thankyou for your well wishes