Disney america?

[slick_willy]

I don't usually comment much, but good grief! Condorman really does know how to get under peoples skin. Metro was simply stating that when Disney came along, so did other things that were less than desirable. Condorman comes along to try to set him straight......WOW! Metro also stated that he knew that if the theme parks were to leave Orlando, so would people, jobs and revenue but it would not be a ghost town. Yes, the theme parks have given Orlando lots of revenue, but that's not the only thing that Orlando has going for it.

 

[KYMickey]

Just wondering but other than the Theme Parks, what does Orlando have going for itself? Not saying it doesn't let everything I've seen what I've been there seems like it's an offshoot of the parks. I'm including, restaurants, hotels, convention center, etc. all as offshoots.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

I work at the largest hospital system in the area...we aren't going anywhere...theme parks or not.

You don't think if there was a huge population drop that your hospital and a lot of the support systems would need to change, close or consolidate?

Think of it like this, the largest financial companies in the world experienced a dramatic change in their business model, whether they were or were not involved in the subprime mess. Some have fallen, others have consolidated.

I'm not trying to get in the middle of the good or bad about Orlando, just pointing out that there is no immunity in the scenario presented.

 

[black562]

Guys, everything is tied together. Disney brings tourism, tourism brings other forms of tourism (other parks and roadside attractions), this brings people for empoyment. In turn, those extra people demand things like food, banks, hospitals, doctors, lawyers, grocery stores, car dealerships, the list goes on and on.

This is from a 2004 Economic report by The Fishkind & Associates:

Few would argue against the theory that tourism is the region's most important industry and that Disney is the king of that particular hill. It directly employs more than 49,000 people at Walt Disney World, making the company the largest single-site employer in the United States.

In addition, another 14,000 people work at the Disney site for third-party hotel operators, restaurants and other activities, with 1,200 more working at Celebration in Osceola County. That means Disney employed more than 65,000 people in 2003.

The study also shows there are another 46,000 jobs indirectly generated by Disney in the area, totaling more than 111,000 people whose weekly paycheck is dependent on Walt Disney World.

Those paychecks bring $2.9 billion into the area's revenue stream. In addition, the total value of goods and services purchased in Central Florida directly and indirectly is $5.1 billion, making Disney's Central Florida combined economic impact $8 billion.

 

[PatriciaH]

Just wondering but other than the Theme Parks, what does Orlando have going for itself? Not saying it doesn't let everything I've seen what I've been there seems like it's an offshoot of the parks. I'm including, restaurants, hotels, convention center, etc. all as offshoots.

Just a few things. Many around long before WDW.

http://www.leugardens.org/

http://www.morsemuseum.org/

http://winterpark.org/

http://funandsun.com/parks/WekiwaSprings/wekiwa.html

http://www.boktowergardens.org/

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/

http://cityoforlando.net/citycalendar/public/Calendar.aspx

http://www.cfhf.net/orlando/overview.htm

http://www.orlandogolf.com/

http://www.gatorland.com/

http://www.omart.org/

http://www.cityoforlando.net/fpr/net/t_ParkRec.aspx?park=062&page=5

http://www.mennellomuseum.org/aboutus.html

http://www.downtownorlando.com/

http://www.thehistorycenter.org/exhibits/?art=current

http://www.clubfirestone.com/site.html

http://www.thewineroomonline.com/

http://www.worldbowlingcenter.com/v1/flash/

http://www.orlandopac.org/

 

[PatriciaH]

A few more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Central_Florida

http://www.ci.orlando.fl.us/elected/venues/eventsctr.htm

http://floridafilmfestival.com./

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/

http://www.cityartsfactory.com/

http://www.emptyspacestheatre.org/about.htm

http://www.theplazatheatre.com/

http://www.austinscoffee.com/

http://orlandofringe.org/

http://www.madcowtheatre.com/

http://www.thesocial.org/

 

[bubba's mom]

This is from a 2004 Economic report by The Fishkind & Associates:

Few would argue against the theory that tourism is the region's most important industry and that Disney is the king of that particular hill. It directly employs more than 49,000 people at Walt Disney World, making the company the largest single-site employer in the United States.

In addition, another 14,000 people work at the Disney site for third-party hotel operators, restaurants and other activities, with 1,200 more working at Celebration in Osceola County. That means Disney employed more than 65,000 people in 2003.

The study also shows there are another 46,000 jobs indirectly generated by Disney in the area, totaling more than 111,000 people whose weekly paycheck is dependent on Walt Disney World.

Those paychecks bring $2.9 billion into the area's revenue stream. In addition, the total value of goods and services purchased in Central Florida directly and indirectly is $5.1 billion, making Disney's Central Florida combined economic impact $8 billion.

ah...also remember, Disney is laying people off too...so, employment numbers are down. Vacationers are also complaining about less people doing more work in the parks...service is/was suffering. And, even tho they still draw the crowds, they must be doing less business...with the 4/3 deal and free dining and such... Economy hit everyone..including Disney. Yet...Orlando will survive

 

[donaldduck352]

It didnt take Disney to make Orlando what it is today.In fact Orange county had a healthy economy from agriculture before Disney came to town.
Take Tampa for instance,Busch Gardens opend in 1950.Did that change thier economy?NO,its mostly built on industry.
Another example is Silver Springs Ocala,opened in 1858.What drives Ocala"s economy-industry!!
I can go on!!
See a pattern.

Orlando would have grown no matter what..

I love the Idea of having all these great theme parks real close to me.

Look at DisneyLand California.The area is totally a dump.Cheap hotels-crime-high taxes.This is why Walt decided to buy swamp land and orange groves at $100 a acre under different company names to keep the land purchase cheap!!Pretty sligh..

All Metro was saying is when you bring a name like Disney to town,expect the price it will take on your community..

FYI-Orange County taxes are 12.5%,highest then any county in the state of Fla!!

and thank you PatriciaH for your input on what Orange County has to offer..

 

[donaldduck352]

Forgot to add.DisneyHoldings are not just theme parks and movies.They buy and sell real estate also.
If they see a area thats going to grow,they will buy land cheap and make a profit on it..
I know for a fact they purchased 300 acres in Levy County Fla.
There is nothing here but swamp land.They probally got a good price on it and will sell it off at a higher rate!!!

 

[deej696]

It didnt take Disney to make Orlando what it is today.In fact Orange county had a healthy economy from agriculture before Disney came to town.
Take Tampa for instance,Busch Gardens opend in 1950.Did that change thier economy?NO,its mostly built on industry.
Another example is Silver Springs Ocala,opened in 1858.What drives Ocala"s economy-industry!!
I can go on!!
See a pattern.

Orlando would have grown no matter what..

I love the Idea of having all these great theme parks real close to me.

Look at DisneyLand California.The area is totally a dump.Cheap hotels-crime-high taxes.This is why Walt decided to buy swamp land and orange groves at $100 a acre under different company names to keep the land purchase cheap!!Pretty sligh..

All Metro was saying is when you bring a name like Disney to town,expect the price it will take on your community..

FYI-Orange County taxes are 12.5%,highest then any county in the state of Fla!!

and thank you PatriciaH for your input on what Orange County has to offer..

Great points. As a guy who grew up in Ocala and still call it home, our growth has had nothing to do with one of Florida's original tourist parks, Silver Springs. Oh and Patricia you can also add my alma mater the University of Central Florida, the 5th largest in the nation...

 

[bubba's mom]

We frequent Ocala...FIL lives SW Ocala. Amazes me how much and how fast it grows! Sort of a shame...all the horse farms being sold to developers... ah well...

 

[macraven]

Just a few things. Many around long before WDW.

http://www.leugardens.org/

http://www.morsemuseum.org/

http://winterpark.org/

http://funandsun.com/parks/WekiwaSprings/wekiwa.html

http://www.boktowergardens.org/

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment/

http://cityoforlando.net/citycalendar/public/Calendar.aspx

http://www.cfhf.net/orlando/overview.htm

http://www.orlandogolf.com/

http://www.gatorland.com/

http://www.omart.org/

http://www.cityoforlando.net/fpr/net/t_ParkRec.aspx?park=062&page=5

http://www.mennellomuseum.org/aboutus.html

http://www.downtownorlando.com/

http://www.thehistorycenter.org/exhibits/?art=current

http://www.clubfirestone.com/site.html

http://www.thewineroomonline.com/

http://www.worldbowlingcenter.com/v1/flash/

http://www.orlandopac.org/

A few more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Central_Florida

http://www.ci.orlando.fl.us/elected/venues/eventsctr.htm

http://floridafilmfestival.com./

http://www.orlandoweekly.com/

http://www.cityartsfactory.com/

http://www.emptyspacestheatre.org/about.htm

http://www.theplazatheatre.com/

http://www.austinscoffee.com/

http://orlandofringe.org/

http://www.madcowtheatre.com/

http://www.thesocial.org/

Thank you Patricia H for all the links in both of your posts.
Apparently you know more about the area than some others do.

I'm impressed with your knowledge.

It didnt take Disney to make Orlando what it is today.In fact Orange county had a healthy economy from agriculture before Disney came to town.
Take Tampa for instance,Busch Gardens opend in 1950.Did that change thier economy?NO,its mostly built on industry.
Another example is Silver Springs Ocala,opened in 1858.What drives Ocala"s economy-industry!!
I can go on!!
See a pattern.

Orlando would have grown no matter what..

I love the Idea of having all these great theme parks real close to me.

Look at DisneyLand California.The area is totally a dump.Cheap hotels-crime-high taxes.This is why Walt decided to buy swamp land and orange groves at $100 a acre under different company names to keep the land purchase cheap!!Pretty sligh..

All Metro was saying is when you bring a name like Disney to town,expect the price it will take on your community..

FYI-Orange County taxes are 12.5%,highest then any county in the state of Fla!!

and thank you PatriciaH for your input on what Orange County has to offer..

Thank you also donaldduck. from what you have posted, it makes sense to me.

Great points. As a guy who grew up in Ocala and still call it home, our growth has had nothing to do with one of Florida's original tourist parks, Silver Springs. Oh and Patricia you can also add my alma mater the University of Central Florida, the 5th largest in the nation...

Thank you for your post.
I see it the same way you do.

 

[mickey2000]

I need some of you disney EXPERTS right now! I just got word that there is possibly a DISNEY AMERICA being built in my home town!!!! I live in Bellmawr, NJ which is a very very small town just outside of Philadelphia, PA. Does anyone have ANY information regarding this???????? A family friend of mine works for the borough of Bellmawr and told me of this news, but does not have much information regarding this.

The closest thing to Disney is the industrial park where the USPS is

 

[mylittletinkerbell]

I have been hearing alot of buzz lately that they will build a disney park here in tx. but im trying to only half believe it. its just to good to be true. I moved to texas from orange county california where the original disneyland is and it might seem silly but it was hard to leave cali for that reason alone. especially now since i have a little girls who loves disney.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

FYI-Orange County taxes are 12.5%,highest then any county in the state of Fla!!

Note, room taxes are 12.5%, not sales tax which is a bargain compared to many metropolitan areas.

 

[KYMickey]

I have been hearing alot of buzz lately that they will build a disney park here in tx. but im trying to only half believe it. its just to good to be true. I moved to texas from orange county california where the original disneyland is and it might seem silly but it was hard to leave cali for that reason alone. especially now since i have a little girls who loves disney.

Not to burst your bubble but it's not going to happen! There have been rumors about Disney in Texas, Louisiana, Missouri and many other places going around forever. It seems like every couple of months one of them heats up and then goes away for another one to come to the forefront. None of them have happened and won't for awful long time (maybe for your girls daughters at best) if ever. Disney has too many other eggs in its basket at this time especially with the economy like it is.

 

[keishashadow]

I think your friend must have misheard something. A Disney's America park was going to be built in Virginia in the early 1990's, but it was cancelled due to complaints that it would be located too close to Civil War battlefields. There are no plans to resurrect the project or, as far as I know, to build any other Disney park within the Philadelphia/New Jersey area.

and they put up a parking lotoutlet shopping ctr there instead & most of nearby land is a psuedo bedroom community of DC now too

That's like saying Los Angeles would be better off without Hollywood or New York without Times Square. I've been to Orlando, the city and the suburbs, and frankly WDW is the best thing there. I'm happy with the theme park concentration in Central Florida as it gives visitors a single point destination to get the best amusement offerings in the world. You don't have to be a resident to know how much Disney has done for your area. You can thank them in a letter or just by visiting their parks. Orlando exists because of Disney.

Thanks, Disney.

urban sprawl, taxing a city's infra-structure & services is never a good thing unless the 'employers' pay their dues in tax assessments to fund...most demand tax abatement though

why do u think disney established reedy creekable to control things/info, unlike @ DL park in anaheim

I think its safe to say that someone who has "visited Orlando and the suburbs" does not have the same level of information or insight as someone who lives there, or has been in Central Florida for their entire life. But then again it wouldnt be the Rumors board if Condor wasnt in the antagonist role, regardless of what the topic is

Oh and Disney's America? I needed a laugh this morning

main reason i'd never consider retiring in Orlando, just too much hub-bub in general. Ala Vegas & other large cities, along with tourists, many transients also leech upon the good people in the community & crime rate goes thru the ceiling.

Ive said it before, the locals deserve medals for putting up with influx of visitorsmany commando-ing to new heights of insensitivity to their hosts.