Disney 2018 v 2022? Universal instead?

akadada

Doin' It All for My Baby.
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Hi everyone, Looking for feedback. It's been a few years since I've gone to this board. I really appreciate the resource and the informed people who participate.

Back in 2018 as a family we said we had enough with Disney. We used to go every year for almost 20 years (including when I was a kid), then backed off to every other year and then by 2018 it was such a horrible experience in terms of staff, planning, costs, hotel quality (we stayed at Yacht club and it was a dump) CM rudeness, food quality, crowds, and just overall loss of magic. We were noticing quality problems from about 2014 to 2018, and then by 2018, it was too much. Also they got rid of the nightime parade and the night show at the castle is just a TV screen. The best parts that remained like Flower & Garden / Food & Wine and some of the legacy rides were great, but not enough to justify the experience. It was all just so different than from years past.

My kids were 6 and 8 at the time. They still kind of enjoyed it because my wife and I did our best to keep our frustration to ourselves. We didn't want to ruin their experience so we just kept it in. They have been able to anchor on just the good memories (which is really great for them).

They asked then if we'd ever go back. We told them we would "consider" it again in four years thinking enough time would pass for us to reboot our interest while they're at prime ages for full experience of the parks...well 4 years is coming fast and they remember.

I've, for the most part, completely stopped paying attention to Disneyworld stuff and everytime I try to dip my toes into it I have viceral disgust for trying to navigate planning a trip. The required planning is simply overwhelming and pricing seems insane as well (planning late Feb or early March) Almost double what we paid, however I'd not stay at Yacht again. I just used it as a benchmark. And from what I read here occasionally, it seems like the 50th experience is stuggling with Covid issues, while it looks like there's a regular complaints about key rides being down/closed for unexpected reasons.

Anyway, I'm trying to keep an open mind the best I can and wondered a few things for those of you who have been to Disney over the long term and especially the last 10 years.

1. Has Disney gotten better or worse since 2018? You can define whatever that means to you.

2. Is the planning harder or easier? How so?

3. Given the 50th, I understand there's a lot more to do. . . but are the additional rides/attractions worth it?

4. My kids LOVE Harry Potter. We've never been to Universal. Should we just go there instead? Or perhaps try to do both in one week? (Although that pricing is even more insane).

5. If we do go, should we just hire a tour planner for us so I dont' have to devote dozens of hours of time to planning the trip? If so, who?

I know our posture is negative and the topic might be contentious, but I'm hoping this is a positive conversation. We welcome a final attempt at a resurrection of interest for our kids. Many thanks in advance!
 
Honestly, if you were that unhappy with Disney in 2018, you probably aren't going to like it now.

If they are 10 and 12, I vote for trying Universal and Harry Potter. Maybe do several days there and make a day trip to the Magic Kingdom for a little dose of Disney?
 
I think that having Dream Unlimited Travel, the sponsor of this board, plan your trip is a great idea. I agree with previous poster that a Disney trip now may sour your attitude even more. I think a focus on Universal with a day or two at the parks for Disney (while staying at a universal hotel) will suit you very well.
 
For kids the ages yours are who love HP, and assuming they like thrill rides as well, I'd recommend at least two nights, maybe three at one of the UOR deluxe hotels so you can get the Unlimited Express Passes (included in the room rate) and can spend two or three days in the UOR parks and possibly the water park. You might even price out staying at the UOR hotel for all nights of your visit and just taking rideshare to WDW for the days you want to visit those parks. The UOR deluxe hotels are usually priced around the WDW moderates (yes, check the prices), and if you buy one AP you can get them even cheaper. Spend some time on this forum https://www.disboards.com/forums/universal-orlando-resorts-hotels.75/ and this one https://www.disboards.com/forums/universal-studios-islands-of-adventure-forums.30/ for even more information.
 

This year, I”m doing both. Four days at WDW, and two at Universal.

If you had enough in 2018, you’ll really be fed up in 2022. It’s more expensive, they’ve gutted their staff (some due to covid and things, others just because they can), they’ve practically eliminated housekeeper except at turnovers, etc. There are no trams from the parking lot so there is a LOT more walking if you’ve driven, they’ve increased the prices of the parties unbelievably, etc. I’m still going, and it’s still fun for me, and I’m taking my grandsons (one of whom has never been there and he’s now 8). However, for the first time I”m staying at a hotel at Universal for part of our stay, and doing the two parks there and cutting our Disney days.
The hotel we’re staying at (Royal Pacific) is cheaper than the hotels of a similar quality at WDW, and comes with Express Passes, to ‘skip the lines’, while Genie + is $15/day per person and purchased Lightning Lanes are additional charges at WDW. I think we’ll really enjoy it, and with the active boys being 8 and 11, I know it’ll be a good fit. And the hotel is close- so none of the long transportation options like I have at WDW with the hotels I can afford. The hotels at WDW are more expensive per night than ever, and I just can’t do that anymore.

I probably will always visit Disney, and as a winter resident of Florida with an Annual Pass, I can go over when it’s not as crowded and not be stressed if I can’t ride something or do something.
 
Thanks for the great replies so far. Interestingly, ran a costco package quote for US and it was cheaper to stay at the Portifino than moderates or Swan/Dolphin Disney. It inspires a question though: is US hard to plan for? Do you have to do all the Disney planning, or is hopefully easier?
 
Thanks for the great replies so far. Interestingly, ran a costco package quote for US and it was cheaper to stay at the Portifino than moderates or Swan/Dolphin Disney. It inspires a question though: is US hard to plan for? Do you have to do all the Disney planning, or is hopefully easier?
It’s much easier! The Unlimited EPs that come with the deluxe hotels (Portofino is one) are basically FPs, no scheduling. Read and ask questions on those two forums to learn about dining reservations - I don’t have experience there but it’s not as stressful as for WDW. And be sure to get 2-park tickets so that you can ride the Hogwarts Express - the ride is different each way! Two rides use virtual queues, BTW, and the UOR forum will help you learn about that.
 






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