Disabled Protesting at WDW?

[Schmeck]

My FB newsfeed showed some advocacy group trying to organize a protest at WDW (and filing a lawsuit) but I can't find anything about it online - did it really occur, or is it just some disgruntled people trying to get a cause going?

BTW, I posted this here to find out if it is a rumor, or news... If it is in the wrong place mods, I'm sorry.

 

[Schmeck]

This is what I was able to find:

http://amp.cbslocal.com/2013/10/09/disneyland-protest-sparked-by-change-in-disability-policy/

 

[Gracie09]

Its Disneyland not Disney World. I don't understand the lawsuit. They are suing because Disney is following the law?

 

[ZehnJahren]

Its Disneyland not Disney World. I don't understand the lawsuit. They are suing because Disney is following the law?

Yes.

 

[Planogirl]

Its Disneyland not Disney World. I don't understand the lawsuit. They are suing because Disney is following the law?

It looks like they've already managed to find a law firm to talk to about this. I can't imagine how they can sue when Disney is so careful about following the law. Maybe they should work on changing the law instead?

 

[Schmeck]

Its Disneyland not Disney World. I don't understand the lawsuit. They are suing because Disney is following the law?

Thanks - it was a weird post on FB, and it said WDW, but the only one I heard of was at Disneyland. I was just wondering if a WDW one was planned as well. Looks like there isn't one in the works. It would be difficult to do at WDW because you'd have to be off property - out by the highway or DTD, right?

The lawsuit is pretty futile, IMO. According to the DIS, lawsuits against Disney have a 4% chance of success if they get to court. Since Disney is doing what many other theme parks have already done for years, not sure what ground the lawyers will be standing on? California has already struck down the Segway suit, and set some precedents about what a park has to do for access.

 

[Gracie09]

It looks like they've already managed to find a law firm to talk to about this. I can't imagine how they can sue when Disney is so careful about following the law. Maybe they should work on changing the law instead?

Finding a lawyer isn't a problem. Finding a good lawyer is. Apparently this guy specializes in personal injury. Methinks someone wants his name in the paper.

 

[StacyMarie]

I've been following this group's FB page. She deletes anything positive regarding the new DAS system. She is only reporting the negative information she can find, which doesn't seem to be much. She forgets that Disney DOES NOT have to provide anything more than what the law states. She seems to think they do. Disney is in line now with almost all other theme parks. This group and their lawsuit will not prevail, especially with a personal injury attorney, lol!

 

[Son of Gadsden]

'Murica.

If you don't let me have my way, I'll sue the **** out of you.

 

[DLgal]

I've been following this group's FB page. She deletes anything positive regarding the new DAS system. She is only reporting the negative information she can find, which doesn't seem to be much. She forgets that Disney DOES NOT have to provide anything more than what the law states. She seems to think they do. Disney is in line now with almost all other theme parks. This group and their lawsuit will not prevail, especially with a personal injury attorney, lol!

I have a friend who follows and supports that group. I find the group obnoxious in how they are dealing with this issue. My friend went to the rally. The thing is, she does have an autistic son, but she doesn't even use the guest assistance anymore! But she was standing out there holding a sign about how her son's visits will be ruined now. I don't get it. I know for a fact that she was out there to support those who couldn't be there, but she used her OWN child to speak out against the DAS. Wrong. Just....wrong.

I am so the "anti-warrior" mom, I guess. Both my sons have autism and I wouldn't be caught dead badmouthing a company based solely on heresay and no actual personal experience. I find the negative outcry on this issue to be a bit over the top.

 

[puntagordabob]

People protest anthing today it seems

 

[sugerfreesteve]

Disney have been doing more than required for years and some people have abused the system. Maybe this group should sue those guys instead and stop complaining as there is still going to be some form of scheme anyway.

 

[Son of Gadsden]

Disney have been doing more than required for years and some people have abused the system. Maybe this group should sue those guys instead and stop complaining as there is still going to be some form of scheme anyway.

If there were any justice in the world, yes, they would be comdemning the people abusing the system. But, no, they would rather just make themselves out to be victims.

The same could be said for countless situations around the country. Why would the NFL players file a lawsuit to sue the NFL for not being devoted to player safety, then publicly rip the NFL for implementing player safety rules? Because they would rather be victims.

 

[arthropodtodd]

Wow crazy. These folks might want to do read the actual ADA rather than rely someone else's thoughts on the matter. Too many talking points these days.

From wikipedia

Under Title III, no individual may be discriminated against on the basis of disability with regards to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, or accommodations of any place of public accommodation by any person who owns, leases (or leases to), or operates a place of public accommodation. "Public accommodations" include most places of lodging (such as inns and hotels), recreation, transportation, education, and dining, along with stores, care providers, and places of public displays, among other things.

Disney has modified rides, rooms, transportation, etc. so people who have disabilities have access and can enjoy their attractions. They go further to say " we know line waiting can be difficult for you, so we are setting up a separate system that allows you not not wait in que, and still go from ride to ride better than anyone else in the parks. The catch is you cannot jump to the front of the line, just wait outside the que the estimated waiting time. Disney has done a lot of has done more than required.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

1) Just another person wanting an ENTITLEMENT.
2) This is what the country has come down to.
3) Give ME exactly what I want, or I will sue to get SOMETHING that I want.

 

[GrimGhost]

1) Just another person wanting an ENTITLEMENT.
2) This is what the country has come down to.
3) Give ME exactly what I want, or I will sue to get SOMETHING that I want.

I wish this site had the option to "like" a post. Because I would because all over this one.

 

[bowlofcereal]

I believe one of the law firms involved in the class action represented blind guests a couple years ago and now they get to have menus read to them, relief areas for their service animals and kennel at the attraction so blind guests get to ride the attractions. Silly entitlement but I guess we all want to ride.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2881090

Lots of normal negative comments on the link above. Same stuff will follow on this thread as the last lawsuit thread and in the end kids with autism will not be forced to have to undergo additional neurological issues or fall down of the ground shaking (epilepsy or whatever the medical term is called).

In the end Disney will once again have to pay millions. Maybe install cooling rooms for those waiting that have Bells Palsy or other issues while they wait. Hopefully, I get to hang out in them, too...

 

[ZehnJahren]

Same stuff will follow on this thread as the last lawsuit thread and in the end kids with autism will not be forced to have to undergo additional neurological issues or fall down of the ground shaking (epilepsy or whatever the medical term is called).

Kids with autism have epileptic seizures or suffer additional neurological issues if they can't ride a ride within a few minutes of wanting to? Just trying to understand this comment. I would think, if that was the case, a responsible parent wouldn't come within 10 miles of Disney. It would be akin to child abuse - just like it might be construed if you take your autistic child to a protest so that they have a meltdown when they can't do what they're used to, and use that meltdown as a "display" for your cause. Using a child as a weapon is a sick practice. IMHO.

I keep waiting to see someone sue Disney for letting disabled Guests go ahead of them. I would NOT be surprised if someone hired a lawyer and said they were being discriminated against because they were NOT disabled, and cited the fact that the disabled cut ahead of them in line, loop rides, and are able to sit instead of standing in line but still come back and ride.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[Schmeck]

I keep waiting to see someone sue Disney for letting disabled Guests go ahead of them. I would NOT be surprised if someone hired a lawyer and said they were being discriminated against because they were NOT disabled, and cited the fact that the disabled cut ahead of them in line, loop rides, and are able to sit instead of standing in line but still come back and ride.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

That would involve section 12182 (b)(1)(A)(ii) of the ADA. It's the clause that does not allow superior access for those with disabilities:

"It shall be discriminatory to afford an individual or class of individuals, on the basis of a disability or disabilities of such individual or class, directly, or through contractual, licensing, or other arrangements with the opportunity to participate in or benefit from a good, service, facility, privilege, advantage, or accommodation that is not equal to that afforded to other individuals."

The next section covers the part that keeps it from being less than what is given to the general public - so this clause basically states that you can't give a privilege to a class of individuals that is not equal (as in better) than general.

ETA: No, I am not going to file a lawsuit because of this.

 

[DLgal]

That would involve section 12182 (b)(1)(A)(ii) of the ADA. It's the clause that does not allow superior access for those with disabilities:

"It shall be discriminatory to afford an individual or class of individuals, on the basis of a disability or disabilities of such individual or class, directly, or through contractual, licensing, or other arrangements with the opportunity to participate in or benefit from a good, service, facility, privilege, advantage, or accommodation that is not equal to that afforded to other individuals."

The next section covers the part that keeps it from being less than what is given to the general public - so this clause basically states that you can't give a privilege to a class of individuals that is not equal (as in better) than general.

ETA: No, I am not going to file a lawsuit because of this.

So, basically, you can interpret this as Disney revamping the system so that they are in accordance with the law. All this time, they have been in violation of the ADA. Interesting.