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Me thinks getting a good CEO is more important than you love of Cocomelon, whatever the heck that is! :rotfl2: :rotfl: :rotfl2:
It’s better that you don’t know. Lol

But yeah Mayer or Staggs if they are viewed as the most viable candidates for CEO, that decision outweighs any concerns/critiques of content like Blippi, CoCoMelon, etc. that would wind up a part of the Disney library should they decide to purchase Candle Media.

Though I’d imagine they’d have to start that process soon if that’s going to be a plan.
 
Who has the NERVE to disparage Cocomelon?! :earboy2:

(glad we only had a short phase of that show)
 
https://variety.com/vip/hbo-netflix...d=48&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=1#cxrecs_s

June 23, 2023 6:00am PT
HBO’s Potential Netflix Deal Isn’t So Shocking — but It Is Significant
By Tyler Aguilina

Is it really so surprising that Warner Bros. Discovery would license HBO shows to Netflix?

Yes, this would have been unthinkable a few years ago. Yes, the two companies’ rivalry is well documented. But as the past year has proved, WBD CEO David Zaslav will do almost anything short of a memorabilia auction to generate cash to pay down the company’s massive debt load, and he’s perfectly willing to pivot away from what was once conventional streaming business wisdom in the process.

The news that WBD is in talks with Netflix to loan out HBO titles is totally in keeping with this pattern, though it does epitomize how profoundly the direct-to-consumer game has changed in just over a year. The walled gardens that once defined the streaming wars are starting to crumble as the legacy media players strive to turn their services profitable by any means necessary, including renewed content licensing.

WBD has led this charge, pulling dozens of titles from HBO Max to loan out to FAST platforms instead. By the same token, where HBO’s catalog was supposed to be the crown jewel of WBD’s flagship streaming offering (even as the company sheared “HBO” from that service’s moniker), it’s now just another tool in Zaslav’s ongoing quest to squeeze as much free cash flow as possible out of WBD assets.

There are still limits, however. By the reported terms of the prospective Netflix deal (which has not been finalized), licensed HBO titles will not be current programming such as “House of the Dragon” or “The Last of Us” but concluded series. The Issa Rae comedy “Insecure,” which wrapped in 2021, is one title reportedly under discussion. (Representatives for Netflix and HBO both declined to comment.)

It’s not so different from the pact HBO struck to license shows to Amazon Prime Video back in the halcyon days of 2014. That deal featured such marquee legacy titles as “The Sopranos” and “The Wire,” as well as some then-current series including “Girls” and “Veep,” but kept “Game of Thrones” exclusive to HBO. (Let’s not forget the edited reruns of “Sex and the City,” “The Sopranos” and more that once ran on basic cable, either.)

And as shameless as Zaslav has been, it’s still extremely unlikely he’ll loan out, say, the recently concluded “Succession” or even “Thrones” — the HBO content, in other words, most likely to lure new subscribers to Max. This is presumably just another way to monetize content sitting around that streaming library, if not gathering dust then certainly not gathering much revenue.

Still, there’s a difference between loaning HBO content to a FAST service and loaning it to WBD’s number one rival in the streaming wars, isn’t there? It’s true the maneuver does seem to signal a power shift, an implicit admission that WBD can’t really compete with Netflix after all — at least, not in its current financial shape. Robbing Max to pay David, so to speak, is the only solution for the moment.

It also portends where Netflix may be headed. The market, we’re learning, seems able to support only a few major streaming services at the scale required to turn a profit, and Netflix — for all the hay made of its troubles last year — seems destined to be one of those services.

It’s very possible, as we’ve argued previously, that Netflix will once again become a repository for the traditional studios’ content in the future, as those companies backpedal from the “all in on the streaming model” in favor of diversified revenue streams. In other words, this may be far from the last eyebrow-raising licensing deal we see Netflix strike so long as the studios continue their streaming war of attrition.
 
In terms of a hypothetical Candle Media buyout… The price would be very steep.

Mayer and Skaggs are 61 years old. Both would be amazing for Disney (IMO). I just cannot see it happening although Iger has no issue spending on M & A.

Seems kind of silly to let those 2 guys leave for nothing and then cost like $5b to get them back for maybe 10yrs of service.
 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/06/25/dc-warner-bros-strategy-disney-mcu.html

Warner Bros. needs to stop copying Disney and let its superheroes fly solo

Published Sun, Jun 25 2023 - 12:44 PM EDT
Mike Calia@NewsMC615

Key Points
  • The failure of “The Flash” should make Warner Bros. and DC Studios reconsider their newly adapted reboot plan.
  • Marvel, owned by Disney, has cornered the market on shared superhero universes.
  • DC has a better track record with movies and franchises focusing on a single hero.
The Flash” is a flop. “Black Adam” was a bust. And does anyone remember “Shazam: Fury of the Gods”?

DC Studios needs more than a hero, it needs a new strategy – something different than even its recently established reboot plan.

DC and its parent company, Warner Bros. Discovery, have Marvel Cinematic Universe envy. It’s easy to see why. The MCU’s movies, including ones that haven’t been released by Disney, have grossed about $30 billion worldwide since 2008. Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav has directed DC Studios co-CEOs James Gunn and Peter Safran to create their own shared universe involving iconic characters like Batman and Superman.

The problem is, Warner Bros. and DC are already working through the tail end of a previous – and failed – attempt to tie their characters together through multiple films and shows. At the movies, DC’s Justice League just can’t measure up against Marvel’s Avengers.

The likely answer to Warner Bros. and DC’s issues is right in front of them, though: Character-specific franchises that adhere to one filmmaker’s vision, not a TV-style writers room. Basically, let your heroes fly solo.

It’s worked for DC properties before, even recently.

Christopher Nolan’s Batman trilogy, which wrapped in 2012, was a well-reviewed box office juggernaut. And even though, they were both connected to the prior attempt at creating a DC movie universe, 2017′s “Wonder Woman” and 2018′s “Aquaman” focused mainly on their title characters and racked up big bucks and accolades in the process.

To put an even finer point on it, look no further than the financial and critical success of Todd Phillips’ “Joker” and Matt Reeves’ “The Batman.” Neither movie is connected to an extended universe.

“Joker,” released in 2019, grossed more than $1 billion worldwide despite being rated R, while racking up a best actor Oscar for star Joaquin Phoenix. Last year’s “The Batman,” starring Robert Pattinson as an early-career Caped Crusader, garnered around $750 million globally. Sequels to both movies are in the works.

But so is “Batman: The Brave and the Bold,” from “Flash” director Andy Muschietti. It will not star Pattinson and will instead serve as “the introduction of the DCU Batman,” according to Gunn. How many different Batmen does an already-superhero-saturated moviegoing audience need? Especially after “The Flash,” which featured four different Dark Knights from previous movies and shows.

Disney Comic books were once a refuge from homework. Now, to keep up with everything going on in Disney’s MCU and Sony’s Spider-Verse, which is also connected to the MCU, you need to have watched pretty much everything that came before to get up to speed. That’s dozens of movies and shows, going back to the original Robert Downey Jr. “Iron Man.”

“The Flash,” meanwhile, might be the most intense comic book movie pop quiz, even though DC’s cinematic universe has been all over the place. It’s jam-packed with cameos (some real, some CGI-generated) from past DC movies and shows, going all the way back to George Reeves’ black-and-white Superman.

But in order to understand all the gags, you have to be really into this stuff. Unless you’re a big fan of “Clerks” director Kevin Smith – big enough of a fan to have watched his standup specials, that is – a “Flash” sequence involving a Nicolas Cage version of Superman fighting a giant spider might be lost on you. The movie’s punchline, involving George Clooney returning to the role of Bruce Wayne 26 years after the badly received “Batman and Robin,” is clearly geared toward Gen-Xers and older Millennials, not today’s younger audiences.

Even the MCU model has tripped up at times. Disney CEO Bob Iger himself has suggested that the studio was going to the well too often with certain characters, after the fourth Thor film and third Ant-Man installment underwhelmed at the box office. That should be another warning sign for DC Studios.

For his part, DC’s Gunn recently acknowledged that there are “too many” superhero movies and shows. If anyone can come up with a creative way to change course, it’s him.

After working with schlock factory Troma Films early on, Gunn built a sturdy Hollywood career as a writer and director, alternating between R-rated flicks like “Slither” and stuff for general audiences, like his Guardians of the Galaxy movies for Marvel and Disney. The third entry in that series snapped the MCU out of its mini funk. It’s so far the second-highest-grossing movie of 2023, behind Universal’s “The Super Mario Bros. Movie.”

And he already has a couple DC works on his resume: the 2020 movie “The Suicide Squad” and its 2022 companion series, “Peacemaker,” both of which won wide acclaim.

Gunn is writing and directing “Superman: Legacy,” due in 2025. It’s intended to usher in the new DC shared universe. But there’s still time for him to reconsider his approach and let the Man of Steel – and all the other DC heroes – be super on their own.

Disclosure: NBCUniversal is the parent company of Universal and CNBC.
 
In terms of a hypothetical Candle Media buyout… The price would be very steep.

Mayer and Skaggs are 61 years old. Both would be amazing for Disney (IMO). I just cannot see it happening although Iger has no issue spending on M & A.

Seems kind of silly to let those 2 guys leave for nothing and then cost like $5b to get them back for maybe 10yrs of service.
Wow, I did not think Mayers was that old. That probably does change things. And yes, letting them go was very silly and having to bring Iger back was very silly and having no one (publicly) identified yet as his successor, while the clock is rapidly ticking down, is very very silly. We have invested in some pretty serious silliness.
 
Wow, I did not think Mayers was that old. That probably does change things. And yes, letting them go was very silly and having to bring Iger back was very silly and having no one (publicly) identified yet as his successor, while the clock is rapidly ticking down, is very very silly. We have invested in some pretty serious silliness.
Is there anybody under consideration in their early 50s other than D’Amaro?
 
Is there anybody under consideration in their early 50s other than D’Amaro?
Yea, off the top of my head, I think all the names we have seen mentioned are beyond the mid-50's.

The betting lines have Kevin in the lead, for whatever that is worth. the bottom of the list is pretty LOL:

https://thesportsdaily.com/news/nex...odds-kevin-mayer-adam-silver-among-favorites/

Next Disney CEO After Bob IgerOdds
Kevin Mayer+150
Adam Silver+225
Dana Walden+425
Josh D’Amaro+650
Jimmy Pitaro+1000
Alan Bergman+1000
Christine McCarthy+1200
Thomas O. Staggs+2000
Reed Hastings+3000
Ted Sarandos+3000
Ari Emanuel+3500
Vince McMahon+5000
Bob Chapek+5000
David Zaslav+5000
 
We need someone who can read a movie script and know what they're reading. Eisner, with all his faults, knew movie-making, as did Katzenberg. Walt Disney spent more time reading scripts than any other task while he ran the company.
 
We need someone who can read a movie script and know what they're reading. Eisner, with all his faults, knew movie-making, as did Katzenberg. Walt Disney spent more time reading scripts than any other task while he ran the company.
Yes! I am surprised the two sports guys are so high on the list. And as a long shot, we have Vince McMahon, now there is a guy who knows "scripts" and "sports". LOL
 
We need someone who can read a movie script and know what they're reading. Eisner, with all his faults, knew movie-making, as did Katzenberg. Walt Disney spent more time reading scripts than any other task while he ran the company.

Yea, off the top of my head, I think all the names we have seen mentioned are beyond the mid-50's.

The betting lines have Kevin in the lead, for whatever that is worth. the bottom of the list is pretty LOL:

https://thesportsdaily.com/news/nex...odds-kevin-mayer-adam-silver-among-favorites/

Next Disney CEO After Bob IgerOdds
Kevin Mayer+150
Adam Silver+225
Dana Walden+425
Josh D’Amaro+650
Jimmy Pitaro+1000
Alan Bergman+1000
Christine McCarthy+1200
Thomas O. Staggs+2000
Reed Hastings+3000
Ted Sarandos+3000
Ari Emanuel+3500
Vince McMahon+5000
Bob Chapek+5000
David Zaslav+5000
In the game of office politics do you reward the loyalty of a Bergman over Walden or a younger executive like Pitaro?

The only real negative (for those on this website) is that none have any Parks experience.

My guess is that Walden will take over.
 
In the game of office politics do you reward the loyalty of a Bergman over Walden or a younger executive like Pitaro?

The only real negative (for those on this website) is that none have any Parks experience.

My guess is that Walden will take over.
In fairness the last guy had parks experience and we all saw how that panned out.

Also the only parks guy on the list D’Amaro started with the company only 2 years after Bergman. I’m not advocating for D’Amaro to be CEO though.
 
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In the game of office politics do you reward the loyalty of a Bergman over Walden or a younger executive like Pitaro?

The only real negative (for those on this website) is that none have any Parks experience.

My guess is that Walden will take over.
I lean towards Walden also. Surprised she's not in the lead on the odds chart but she is highest amongst internal candidates.
 
D'Amato isn't in consideration. He is nowhere near experienced enough.
I wonder if they were to move Josh to the CFO job for a while if that would help round him out for CEO in the future.
 
Iger's gonna try and hang on. There were several stories put out last week about the difficulty of finding a new CFO and CEO at the same time, and that it would be the "smart move" to keep Iger. Those stories were planted.
 
Iger's gonna try and hang on. There were several stories put out last week about the difficulty of finding a new CFO and CEO at the same time, and that it would be the "smart move" to keep Iger. Those stories were planted.
This is not an original idea I am posting, but in my mind the CEO should be hired and have a hand in choosing a CFO that he can work with.
 



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