Dining CM just told me that Candlelight Processional will be 2 dining credits

[ScottishMickeyFan]

I just got my CP package arranged but not without lots of stress,, i was told for the 20:15 performance marakesh was full,, eh! it 5 mins after the phone lines opened,, but it was the way she was saying 8.15 dinner,, she kept saying its full,, but as i spoke to her i went online and pulled up 2 bookings, 6pm + 6.30pm and told her,, she said she was putting me in to eat at 8.15pm,, eh! no, the candlight starts then not the meal,, she went away,, then came back and said i have tried it another way for you,, i think she means she put in the correct dining time, lol,, i was so stressed i could not believe it,,

But 2 x TS credits confirmed,, it works out ok for us as we have a few meals off site this trip so have a few extra TS + quite a few CS credits left.

J

 

[Doug7856]

I just got my CP package arranged but not without lots of stress,, i was told for the 20:15 performance marakesh was full,, eh! it 5 mins after the phone lines opened,, but it was the way she was saying 8.15 dinner,, she kept saying its full,, but as i spoke to her i went online and pulled up 2 bookings, 6pm + 6.30pm and told her,, she said she was putting me in to eat at 8.15pm,, eh! no, the candlight starts then not the meal,, she went away,, then came back and said i have tried it another way for you,, i think she means she put in the correct dining time, lol,, i was so stressed i could not believe it,,

But 2 x TS credits confirmed,, it works out ok for us as we have a few meals off site this trip so have a few extra TS + quite a few CS credits left.

J

Interesting. I just called to get pricing as we may not do the dining plan (DVC). It was confirmed that there will be preferred IllumiNations viewing. While waiting for pricing the call bumped over to the survey so I called back and was told that no pricing was available.

 

[ScottishMickeyFan]

Interesting. I just called to get pricing as we may not do the dining plan (DVC). It was confirmed that there will be preferred IllumiNations viewing. While waiting for pricing the call bumped over to the survey so I called back and was told that no pricing was available.

Yes, the CM did mention a button for the CP & Fireworks, i did not actually take her on and ask more info but i will remember to quiz at the dining,

 

[Merryweather7]

Ok, I just called as well. CM (very good one!) checked everything she had and confirmed that all bookings were 2 TS, even lunch, and it is 90+10. At least we know now and can go on from there. Its still too much even if the preferred viewing for fireworks are included. This one is going to be OOP for me.

 

[Doug7856]

Ok, I just called as well. CM (very good one!) checked everything she had and confirmed that all bookings were 2 TS, even lunch, and it is 90+10. At least we know now and can go on from there. Its still too much even if the preferred viewing for fireworks are included. This one is going to be OOP for me.

Did the CM mention any prices?

 

[MissBritt]

Sorry, but what is 09+10? Does this mean since it's a special event, we can book 100 days out?

 

[Bete]

This is 10 am eastern info:

My first CM was clueless about it all. I asked for a supervisor and I was connected to guest services. Guest services said it goes on sale Aug. 19 and he thought today was Aug. 18. I corrected him on the date, but he was no help and he apologized and got me back to the regular dining line to try again. I proceeded to tell the second dining CM my woes here and asked her to check very carefully and get help if needed. She was very nice about it all.

I knew I couldn't ask a lot of questions and have any success; so, I just went for some basic info and a little bit of pricing.

If I can believe this CM which I think I can the package will include an appetizer, reserved seating for the CP show and a preferred viewing spot for Illuminations. This will cost you 2 DP credits. I have verified this information 3 times today; so, I believe the details of the package are correct.

Pricing for adults and children will be (includes tax):

First, this doesn't include all the restaurants on the CP package. Next, I could only get pricing by picking out a restaurant and then the CM looked it up specifically. Let me preface this pricing by saying that even if a restaurant is on the same tier level, pricing may change per the restaurant. This happened on Tier 1 comparing Biergarten to Garden Grill. Garden Grill was more expensive than Biergarten. Second, children pricing on tier 1 for Biergarten was more expensive than tier 2 or tier 3 for children pricing comparing Marrakesh, Teppan Edo and Le Cellier to compare against. Also, dinner pricing was the same for Biergarten and tier 2 for Marrakesh. I believe these differences may have something to do with the Biergarten being the only buffet for the CP processional. I had to do this by restaurant when trying to get pricing. I know this is confusing, but I checked this pricing twice with two different CMs; so, I beleive it's accurate.

LUNCH:
Biergarten Tier 1 is $35.14 adult, $19.16 child
Marrakesh Tier 2 is $41.53 adult, $13.84 child
Teppan Edo or Le Cellier Tier 3 is $55.37 adult, $14.90

DINNER:
BiergartenTier 1 is $47.92 adults, $24.99 child
Marrakesh Tier 2 is $47.92 adults, $15.97 child
Teppan Edo or le Cellier Tier 3 is $63.89 adult, $17.03

Based on these numbers it appears it's a jip to go with children to the Biergarten for lunch or dinner. Also, it seems to be a jip to do dinner for adults at the Biergarten, now. You will really have to want buffet to do this from a money point of view. Garden Grill was even worse as a tier 1 for pricing. Who knows and maybe there's an error here, but the CM wouldn't comment on these price differences and she knew it didn't make sense with a lower tier being more expensive than a higher tier or the same tier having different pricing, etc.

You will really have to do your arithmetic to decide what's better for your situation as to using 2TS dining credits or going OOP. It's not going to be a clear cut decision. It will depend if your lost credit will be made up by going to lunch TS or even doing a CS meal. Disney has made this a very tough decision. Good luck to all.

As of today 8-19 morn, this was the best info available. If anyone can add to this, please do so. The more informed all of us are the better our decisions can be. I really believe this year may be a good year to try standby if you are not there for Thanksgiving week or Christmas week. I don't think Disney is packing them in this year after Thanksgiving time.

Good luck to all. This can give you a headache!

 

[mcgregml]

First - thanks Bete! Heaven only knows, I almost went crazy last night on hold with Airtran for 20 minutes - I can't imagine calling to get all that info!

Second -

Sorry, but what is 09+10? Does this mean since it's a special event, we can book 100 days out?

Not exactly - the 90 + 10 policy is Disney's standard ADR policy in regards to guests staying at a hotel on Disney property. If you are staying OFF property - you can call 90 days in advance to make your ADR's. If you are staying ON property, you can call 90 days in advance of the first day of your reservation and make reservations not only for that day, but also for the 10 days afterwards. So - either way, you can only call 90 days in advance of your first day.

For example, we're going down on Monday, November 23 which means that our 90 day mark is next Tuesday, August 25. However, on that same day, since we are staying at AKV - Kidani, we can (hopefully) make our CP package reservations for November 30 because that's only 7 days later. Along with all our other ADR's!

Hope that's helpful!

 

[FirstTimeWDW]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I didn't see the pricing for Coral Reef does this mean it's no longer available to get a CP Package there? I thought I read that it was one to choose from in the past.

Thanks!

 

[MissBritt]

Thanks! I remember reading that elsewhere now that I see your response. So you can call 90 days before arrival to make up to 10 days ADRs. Gotcha.

 

[Bete]

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, but I didn't see the pricing for Coral Reef does this mean it's no longer available to get a CP Package there? I thought I read that it was one to choose from in the past.

Thanks!

My previous post is meant as a guide to the pricing; it doesn't include all the retaurants that are available. This year it seems the pricing can differ by restaurant even on the same tier; so, I made my pricing specific by restaurant. I tested this out for tier one and this appears to be true for different pricing even on the same level. It's hard to say if tier 2 or tier 3 will have similar issues for pricing or not.

I couldn't ask the CM to go through every restaurant possibility. You will have to call to get specifics about your circumstancers. Again, this is just a guide.

 

[JessRabbit]

So, the CP packages are 2 TS credits for sure this year?

 

[skier_pete]

So, the CP packages are 2 TS credits for sure this year?

I think there is no doubt this is true! It also looks like the prices will be going up significantly as well for those paying OOP.

SkierPete

 

[disneygrandma]

OK, I've made 2 calls this morning. The first CM said they won't start selling these until 8/29. I asked if it would be 90+10, and her reply was yes. I then stated that people arriving Thanksgiving week, before 11/27, should be able to book the CP Dining Pkg today. And she again said No, not until 8/29. Clueless as to what I was saying.

I waited about an hour and called back. This time I asked for pricing only. It took the CM a long-g-g time to locate the info. Here's what I got for the specific restaurants I inquired about:


Tokyo Dining Lunch - Adults: $55.37, Kids: $14.90
" " Dinner - $63.89, $17.03

Coral Reef Lunch - Adults: $55.37, Kids: $14.90
" " Dinner- $63.89, $17.03

Biergarten Lunch - Adults: $35.14, Kids: $19.16
" " Dinner - $47.92, $24.49

Garden Grill Lunch - N/A
" " Dinner - Adults:$47.92, Kids: $24.49


All prices above include sales tax.

So, yes OOP prices have increased by quite a bit, and as to the reasoning of why kids pay more for dinner at Biergarten & Garden Grill than they do at Coral Reef & Tokyo Dining..........who knows? Also, you would think they would have lunch at Garden Grill due to the popularity, but I was told no.

We've only got a few days to make our decision before we call for our ADR's. I'm not sure what we will do.

 

[JessRabbit]

If this is true, guess it frees up one of our evenings! Unless the standby line isn't too bad

 

[Merryweather7]

Does anyone know of a place we can go to see the pricing by restaurant yet? That will probably cement a persons decision to go with the TS or OOP.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

i am super sad if this turns out to be true and agree with those that are saying it makes no sense to use 2 TS for a 1 TS meal and a free show.

1) Details of 1-or-2 coupons are not formally released, that I know.
2) Regardless, you are not buying a dinner and a "free show".
3) You are paying for dinner and a reserved seating section.
4) WDW has always charged extra for the food & reserved section.
5) Now, they might just apply the extra cost to DDP people.

6) Personally, I think this is fair.
7) If OOP people pay extra for a reserved section, why shouldn't DDP people?

 

[Davey-D-99]

This is my first time going in December...We are interested in the CP but I still don't quite understand this

What else is included at the restaurants besides the seats to a free show?

Lunch at Biergarten for example is normally $20/adult, $11/child
Lunch at Biergarten for this CP is $35.14/adult, $19.16/child

What else is included? Is it a special meal? Beer included or something?

 

[skier_pete]

2008 Pricing
Lunch
Tier 1 $27.99 adult, $12.99 child 3-9
Tier 2 $37.99 adult, $12.99 child 3-9
Tier 3 $44.99 adult, $12.99 child 3-9

DINNER
Tier 1 $33.99 adult, $14.99 child 3-9
Tier 2 $44.99 adult, $14.99 child 3-9
Tier 3 $53.99 adult, $14.99 child 3-9

Pricing for adults and children will be (includes tax):

LUNCH:
Biergarten Tier 1 is $35.14 adult, $19.16 child
Marrakesh Tier 2 is $41.53 adult, $13.84 child
Teppan Edo or Le Cellier Tier 3 is $55.37 adult, $14.90

DINNER:
BiergartenTier 1 is $47.92 adults, $24.99 child
Marrakesh Tier 2 is $47.92 adults, $15.97 child
Teppan Edo or le Cellier Tier 3 is $63.89 adult, $17.03

Tokyo Dining Lunch - Adults: $55.37, Kids: $14.90
" " Dinner - $63.89, $17.03

Coral Reef Lunch - Adults: $55.37, Kids: $14.90
" " Dinner- $63.89, $17.03

Biergarten Lunch - Adults: $35.14, Kids: $19.16
" " Dinner - $47.92, $24.49

Garden Grill Lunch - N/A
" " Dinner - Adults:$47.92, Kids: $24.49

So based on the info posted so far the 2009 Prices look to be:
Tier 1
Lunch (Biergarten only)
$32.99 + tax for Adults - a $5 increase
$17.99 + tax for children - a $5 increase
Dinner (Biergarten and Garden Grill)
$44.99 + tax for Adults - an $11 increase
$22.99 + tax for children - an $8 increase

Tier 2
Lunch (Marrakesh is only quoted example to date)
$38.99 + tax for Adults - a $1 increase
$12.99 + tax for children - a $0 increase
Dinner
$44.99 + tax for Adults - a $0 increase
$14.99 + tax for children - a $0 increase

Tier 3
Lunch (Teppan Edo / Le Cellier / Coral Reef all quoted as this)
$51.99 + tax for Adults - a $7 increase
$13.99 + tax for children - a $1 increase
Dinner
$59.99 + tax for Adults - a $6 increase
$15.99 + tax for children - a $1 increase
BTW I got these prices by taking Bete and DisneyGrandma's quoted prices and dividing by 1.065 for the 6.5 % sales tax.

So, the different tiers are consistent between restaurants it seems, however for whatever reason, the tier 1 restaurants are WAY higher for kids than either the Tier 2 or 3, and are almost the same as Tier 2 for adults. It doesn't surprise me that they jacked the Tier 1 prices, because if they are charging 2 TS credits, they figure that they have to give you the "value" for it.

Tier 2 appears to have little to no price increase from last year, though we may want a bigger sample, and Tier 3 has a pretty big jump in Adult prices, but not in kids prices.

Remember you read it here first! It seems to me that the OOP cost is about a $10 - $15 premium per adult, and $5-$8 per kid. That premium gets you a reserved seat for CP and Illuminations. Whether its worth 2 TS credits to you is an individual judgement call.

Hope that helps you all decide what you want to do!

SkierPete

 

[Twende]

I just contacted a person I know who is a Dining CM. I am waiting to hear back form her about the validity of this nasty, I hope, rumor!

If this becomes a 2 TS meal I am going to be very angry.

By now I have charts of our credits and meals all worked out and using 2 TS credits for our EPCOT meal is not in the plans!

I think it is horrid enough to pay more OOP in tips based on the price of the package meal than if you bought the meal completely OOP! I complained to Disney about this last year. After all the CP tickets are suppose to be FREE!

I will update as soon as I hear anything!