Didn't like movie thrown off plane

[pequele]

Completely different thing. What that guy was watching was illegal. The movies in discussion are not illegal.

All we can ask is that those seated near us will watch appropriate material on their laptops, iPads, etc. If they choose to watch something a bit 'racey' then hopefully, they will do so discreetly so those that shouldn't be watching that stuff won't see it. I would not want my 8 y/o looking at GoT!!! I love the show, but it is a bit out there!!! Not for youngsters.

Right as I pointed out, against the law. But the point being it was visible to ADULTS around him and that was how he got caught. So simply watching an R rated program on your own iPad doesn't make it any less visible to someone who is not age appropriate for the material. My son (4) has an iPad and uses my iPhone all the time. Someone watching something on their screen most certainly will attract my child's eye.

 

[buckeev]

For 90 minutes?

My thoughts exactly!
Sometimes it's tough to "distract" my kids for 10 minutes!!!

 

[maxiesmom]

My thoughts exactly!
Sometimes it's tough to "distract" my kids for 10 minutes!!!

I think for some things yes. But from a movie that has no sound and is not something they would want to see at any rate? I don't think it would be that hard.

 

[goofy4tink]

Right as I pointed out, against the law. But the point being it was visible to ADULTS around him and that was how he got caught. So simply watching an R rated program on your own iPad doesn't make it any less visible to someone who is not age appropriate for the material. My son (4) has an iPad and uses my iPhone all the time. Someone watching something on their screen most certainly will attract my child's eye.

Yes, there are times that kids may see something their parents would prefer them not to see. But...this is real life, and believe me, there are plenty of things going on all over the place that I wouldn't have wanted my little ones to see. But, they did.
If I'm flying with a youngster, then I'm going to make it my responsibility to make sure they are involved in things that I approve of. Because I have a 7 y/o traveling with me does not allow me to tell those around me that they can no longer watch what they want to watch on their own devices. And for someone to expect that is just wrong, and entitled. It is not up to me to monitor what I watch simply because there might be a young child that can see it. IF that child is not seated in my row, then I'm going to watch what I want. If I found that there was a child flying in my row, then I may very well adjust what I was watching, out of respect and common courtesy.

 

[goofy4tink]

I think for some things yes. But from a movie that has no sound and is not something they would want to see at any rate? I don't think it would be that hard.

Kids are going to get bored very quickly if mom and dad don't make an issue. If there is no sound, again, bored easily. I really doubt that there are many 6 y/o's, or even older kids, that are going to actively figure out a way to watch something like that...not just on the off chance they 'might' see something worthwhile!!! They get bored...they want cartoons. And the older kids? For heavens sake, tell them to mind their own business and stop peering through the crack in the seats!!!

 

[sam_gordon]

Kids are going to get bored very quickly if mom and dad don't make an issue. If there is no sound, again, bored easily. I really doubt that there are many 6 y/o's, or even older kids, that are going to actively figure out a way to watch something like that...not just on the off chance they 'might' see something worthwhile!!! They get bored...they want cartoons. And the older kids? For heavens sake, tell them to mind their own business and stop peering through the crack in the seats!!!

Are you talking about personal devices or the overhead? I don't think it's realistic that you can keep younger kids from SEEING (as opposed to WATCHING) an overhead screen for 90+ minutes.

I agree a child isn't going to WATCH the movie with no sound. But they get bored with their handheld device, book, cards, crayons, whatever and they look around (no, I'm not talking about "peeking" between the seats). Heck, *I* do that.

 

[Lewisc]

I don't think it's realistic that you can keep younger kids from SEEING (as opposed to WATCHING) an overhead screen for 90+ minutes.

I agree a child isn't going to WATCH the movie with no sound. But they get bored with their handheld device, book, cards, crayons, whatever and they look around (no, I'm not talking about "peeking" between the seats). Heck, *I* do that.

Agreed but there are other ways of seeing "intense" scenes from a PG13 movie. Coming attractions in a movie theater and TV commercials are two common ways. The scenes used to promote the movie are likely to be among the more "intense" scenes in the airplane edited version of the movie. Older kids might wind up seeing some kinds of previews on the computer or in friends houses.

 

[amym2]

Drive, then you can control what your kids watch. And I have two children and we're very conservative when it comes to the movies they can watch. Kids aren't the only ones on the plane and we can't expect everyone to sterilize their world.

And BTW, we drive, not because of the movies.

Great idea... except we're going to Hawaii. Kind of hard to drive there!

I'm sure by October UA will be showing a different movie, and I'm glad to have read this thread, because I will certainly check ahead of time to see what movie will be showing. Not that I'd be able to do anything to change it, but I do think like anything else, it takes enough people speaking up for something to change.

Anyone who thinks I'll be able to "distract" my newly hormonal 11yo DS from catching a glimpse of a movie that he will likely know is inappropriate for him to see has not had an 11yo boy. Sure, he'll be busy doing something else, but he'll also intentionally watch the movie to see things he's not allowed to see. And he is a great kid and a rule follower, but he's 11.

So my DS tells me they listen to a station on the radio on the school bus that plays unedited songs (such as Thriftshop). Should I just "deal with it" because he's going to be exposed to it somewhere, as some people have suggested (at a friend's house, on a friend's ipod)? Or should I speak up to the driver that I don't feel that station is appropriate?

 

[USS Disney]

The "They are going to be exposed to it anyway" argument is bull.

Your kid is going to find out about Santa sooner or later but that doesnt mean you should expose them to reality at age 4 because "its going to happen sooner or later". In todays society, preserving childrens innocence is deemed an inconvienence to others around... seriously? A rating of PG-13 literally means parents should take caution in allowing their children to see it. the airline made a giant error in judgement by forcing this movie selection on a CAPTIVE audience that they had full knowledge would have children on board.

 

[maxiesmom]

So my DS tells me they listen to a station on the radio on the school bus that plays unedited songs (such as Thriftshop). Should I just "deal with it" because he's going to be exposed to it somewhere, as some people have suggested (at a friend's house, on a friend's ipod)? Or should I speak up to the driver that I don't feel that station is appropriate?

You don't deal with the bus driver you deal with the school system. Like you don't deal with the airplane but you deal with the company. One person's opinion of something shouldn't change how anything is done.

I want to add that it is more likely than not that any child won't know the rating of the movie being shown. It would only turn into OOOh it is and adult movie, let me get a glimpse of that! if the parent made a huge deal about it.

 

[sam_gordon]

Agreed but there are other ways of seeing "intense" scenes from a PG13 movie. Coming attractions in a movie theater and TV commercials are two common ways. The scenes used to promote the movie are likely to be among the more "intense" scenes in the airplane edited version of the movie. Older kids might wind up seeing some kinds of previews on the computer or in friends houses.

Every time I've been to the movies, the coming attractions are rated no higher than the movie we're going to see. So it's not like we'd see a preview for Alex Cross while waiting for Shrek to start.

It's the same with TV commercials. I haven't seen an "intense" commercial for a movie while watch Nick, Disney, or Cartoon Network... the main channels that are on when my kids are around.

As far as older kids... how much older are you talking about? I've always been under the assumption we were talking about kids <10, especially since the kids in the OP were 8 & 4.

 

[goofy4tink]

Are you talking about personal devices or the overhead? I don't think it's realistic that you can keep younger kids from SEEING (as opposed to WATCHING) an overhead screen for 90+ minutes.

I agree a child isn't going to WATCH the movie with no sound. But they get bored with their handheld device, book, cards, crayons, whatever and they look around (no, I'm not talking about "peeking" between the seats). Heck, *I* do that.

Handheld personal devices. I think that the airlines have a responsibility to show movies (if that's what they choose to do with overheards) that are appropriate for the majority of viewers. That means no R and PG13.
But, personal devices are a whole different thing. And you just stop peeking through those cracks mister!!!

 

[amym2]

You don't deal with the bus driver you deal with the school system. Like you don't deal with the airplane but you deal with the company. One person's opinion of something shouldn't change how anything is done.

I want to add that it is more likely than not that any child won't know the rating of the movie being shown. It would only turn into OOOh it is and adult movie, let me get a glimpse of that! if the parent made a huge deal about it.

But in this case, it's the driver who decides what they listen to. Going to the transportation dept seems like going to the principal without talking to the teacher first.

My DS would look up the movie in the airline magazine and see it was rated for "teen" and know he shouldn't watch it, but do it anyway, whether intentionally or not. But I realize that's probably not the norm.

 

[amym2]

The "They are going to be exposed to it anyway" argument is bull.

Your kid is going to find out about Santa sooner or later but that doesnt mean you should expose them to reality at age 4 because "its going to happen sooner or later". In todays society, preserving childrens innocence is deemed an inconvienence to others around... seriously? A rating of PG-13 literally means parents should take caution in allowing their children to see it. the airline made a giant error in judgement by forcing this movie selection on a CAPTIVE audience that they had full knowledge would have children on board.

I agree. That's why my 11yo still believes in Santa (despite what his friends say). . When my 9yo asked incessantly about the tooth fairy and I finally told her it's me, and then she asked me how I grow my wings, I didn't divulge the entire truth. But I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle when all of their friends have iPods and iPhones (yes at 9yo) with no parental controls. Trying to keep my kids innocent is a challenge!

 

[Lewisc]

The "They are going to be exposed to it anyway" argument is bull.

Your kid is going to find out about Santa sooner or later but that doesnt mean you should expose them to reality at age 4 because "its going to happen sooner or later". In todays society, preserving childrens innocence is deemed an inconvienence to others around... seriously? A rating of PG-13 literally means parents should take caution in allowing their children to see it. the airline made a giant error in judgement by forcing this movie selection on a CAPTIVE audience that they had full knowledge would have children on board.

You obviously didn't read most of posts in this thread. Airlines don't generally air PG13 movies on the drop down screens. They air movies edited for airline use. Basically a PG13 movie which has been edited down to the equivalent of a PG or G rated movie.

Every time I've been to the movies, the coming attractions are rated no higher than the movie we're going to see. So it's not like we'd see a preview for Alex Cross while waiting for Shrek to start.

It's the same with TV commercials. I haven't seen an "intense" commercial for a movie while watch Nick, Disney, or Cartoon Network... the main channels that are on when my kids are around.

As far as older kids... how much older are you talking about? I've always been under the assumption we were talking about kids <10, especially since the kids in the OP were 8 & 4.

The rule is the actual clip shown as a coming attraction can't have a higher rating. I've seen coming attractions for movies which haven't even been rated yet. I think I've seen previews for R movies before a PG13 movie, I'm not 100% sure.

The question isn't if commercials are found for intense movies during shows your kids watch, Nick channel. The question is if commercials air during shows that might be on when they're in the room. I tune out commercials...aren't commercials for PG13, and even R, movies aired during sporting events?

 

[sam_gordon]

The question isn't if commercials are found for intense movies during shows your kids watch, Nick channel. The question is if commercials air during shows that might be on when they're in the room. I tune out commercials...aren't commercials for PG13, and even R, movies aired during sporting events?

Sporting events are about the only thing that would be on while they're in the room. I don't remember seeing any commercials for "intense" PG13 or R movies while watching the NCAA tournament (most recent sporting event I've had on).

 

[Lewisc]

Sporting events are about the only thing that would be on while they're in the room. I don't remember seeing any commercials for "intense" PG13 or R movies while watching the NCAA tournament (most recent sporting event I've had on).

Super Bowl commercials have included Iron Man 3 and Fast Five (whatever # they're up to) Previous movies in the series were rated PG13. Might have even been an ad for an R rated movie, not sure. Criminals Minds isn't a show I think is great for young kids. I'm sure there were promotional spots during a super bowl.

My point is kids might see some "intense" scenes from PG13 movies at several places. Possibly seeing another scene, without sound, on a small overhead screen in a plane shouldn't be an issue.

The new OZ movie was rated PG. Did any previews for PG13 (or R) movies air before the movie?

 

[labdogs42]

The "They are going to be exposed to it anyway" argument is bull.

Your kid is going to find out about Santa sooner or later but that doesnt mean you should expose them to reality at age 4 because "its going to happen sooner or later". In todays society, preserving childrens innocence is deemed an inconvienence to others around... seriously? A rating of PG-13 literally means parents should take caution in allowing their children to see it. the airline made a giant error in judgement by forcing this movie selection on a CAPTIVE audience that they had full knowledge would have children on board.

agree.

Handheld personal devices. I think that the airlines have a responsibility to show movies (if that's what they choose to do with overheards) that are appropriate for the majority of viewers. That means no R and PG13.
But, personal devices are a whole different thing. And you just stop peeking through those cracks mister!!!

and, agree.

 

[Lewisc]

Handheld personal devices. I think that the airlines have a responsibility to show movies (if that's what they choose to do with overheards) that are appropriate for the majority of viewers. That means no R and PG13.

To be clear, the version aired on the overhead screens shouldn't be R or PG13 rated. Many movies aired were PG13 (maybe R?) in the theaters but the version being shown was edited down to the equivalent of a PG or even G movie.

You realize the distinction but the distinction seems lost on some of the posters.

I believe movies show in the setback screens are generally not edited.

How about this scenario. An adult watching an R rated movie is watching it on the plane because he doesn't want to watch it at home where his kids might see it.

 

[LadyBeBop]

Super Bowl commercials have included Iron Man 3 and Fast Five (whatever # they're up to) Previous movies in the series were rated PG13. Might have even been an ad for an R rated movie, not sure. Criminals Minds isn't a show I think is great for young kids. I'm sure there were promotional spots during a super bowl.

My point is kids might see some "intense" scenes from PG13 movies at several places. Possibly seeing another scene, without sound, on a small overhead screen in a plane shouldn't be an issue.

The new OZ movie was rated PG. Did any previews for PG13 (or R) movies air before the movie?

No R-rated movie trailers before OZ. I think there were some PG-13 movie trailers though. I can't remember what they were.

Movie trailers are colored coded as green band and red band, based on the color of the graphic at the beginning of the trailer. A green band trailer is designated for audiences based on the content of the film they have come to see. For example, the trailers before OZ would be no more than PG in content, even if the movies themselves are PG-13.

Red band trailers are designated for "restricted" or "mature" audiences only. They contain nudity, violence and profanity. They are shown only before NC-17, R and some rare PG-13 movies.