Did you see this: Marie Claire magazine posts "Should fatties get a room?" article.

Well, I guess if they actually did a true body composition test, but that's not how BMI is calculated. It is a measurement of height to weight. It does not measure percentage of body fat. It is only a tool used to estimate healthy body weight assuming an "average" body composition. Body builders and strength athletes are told they are morbidly obese all the time. I just ran Derek's stats. He's 6'1" and he weighs 341lbs. His BMI is 45.0. That's morbidly obese according to the definition. Elaine, I'm sure would come in as morbidly obese as well. That's why BMI is not a good tool. And that was kind of my point. ;)

True, some top athletes are considered obese, yet they are not. There is virtually no fat on them but because of weight and height the are told they are obese.
 
OMG! Are the first two really size 14's? They look good, except for their facial expressions. The 3rd & 4th look sick - is this really what a normal-sized woman is supposed to look like? They DON'T look healthy! (& they don't look like they work out; they look like they starve themselves!)

They're probably circa six feet, that's why.
 

I think many women dont' make "fitness" a priority because they don't make themselves a priority.
 
She sounds pretty surly to me :lmao:

BitterDefensiveMermaid doesn't have quite the same ring.

And in case anyone is wondering, I am currently bouncing my child to sleep while nursing her. A wireless laptop can provide wondrous freedom. We just returned from a lovely walk outside where she was strapped to my back in a wrap. So am I allowed to post now without people wondering why I'm not jogging in place?
 
But to be honest. . .I think a lot of people that are obese really don't know. If they did we wouldn't have a multi-million dollar industry selling them crap that doesn't work.

I think that is often the case. There really is good information out there and there is also bad info. At first it is hard to know the difference but the application of common sense to some and a little time doing research on the rest usually can separate the two. When I decided to get back into decent shape after college I was starting from scratch and had to figure it all out. I know it takes a while to know how to tell the difference but I also know it is possible if you want to do it.

I think some people just need to see some kind of fast results, and when they don't they figure it's not working. Little do they know that maybe just another few weeks of sticking to it, they might have seen some dramatic results. They have to find some way to burn that they enjoy or it will be hard to stick with it. they have to figure out a way to eat that works for them and that they can live with. So I think saying, eat less and exercise more is akin to telling the anorexic to just eat something. It's not that easy. If it was everybody would be their ideal body weight and we could all call it a day. :laughing:

Isn't that the truth! It takes time to put the weight on it will take time to take it off. There is no magic pill or cream and no single exercise that can melt away 50 pounds in a day.
 
I was editing that post to add an example of a woman with a child who was able to do exactly what I did. In fact she beat me. And that is only one example of many.

I line up at many a run next to folks, many faster then I, who have kids. Both the gyms I go to have childcare centers filled with kids. The other three people who are doing the marathon with me all work full time and have multiple kids (two have 2 and one has 3). The thread on the WISH about the race is filled with married working parents along with those who don't have kids.

If you choose to make fitness a priority it will be.

ETA: I have a full time job and am on call for emergencies on the weekends. I'm the I.T. director of my company and if a server crashes I am here. I leave work at work though when I can and we have a culture here of not letting work creep into our non-work lives which is promoted from the top down.

I have to agree with you, I am not one of you, but I do agree. I personally know someone that has 3 kids is in her 40's helped he hubby with his business while graduating Summa cum Laude with her MBA. Took care of her house, and I mean it was always spotless and NEVER allowed fast food in her kids. She also ran 5 miles a day. It was something she refused to give up, fitness was important to her as was nutrition and she didn't give it up for anything or anyone. She now works full time, coaches, and still running. I wish I could say this applied to me, but hey I am working on it.
 
I have to agree with you, I am not one of you, but I do agree. I personally know someone that has 3 kids is in her 40's helped he hubby with his business while graduating Summa cum Laude with her MBA. Took care of her house, and I mean it was always spotless and NEVER allowed fast food in her kids. She also ran 5 miles a day. It was something she refused to give up, fitness was important to her as was nutrition and she didn't give it up for anything or anyone. She now works full time, coaches, and still running. I wish I could say this applied to me, but hey I am working on it.


:thumbsup2 Love this post. As you post it for someone else, it's giving credit where credit is due. If someone were to post those same facts about themselves, it would be jumped on as bragging.
 
Wow, an entire post devoted to your awesomeness. Well done you.

At the moment I prefer to spend the hours I used to sweat in a gym with my kids instead of dumping them with a babysitter. When they're older, sure I'll go back. But not enough to look like Firedancer's "happy medium." I'm still too busy laughing about it. But whatever burns calories.

eta: Oh, wow 40 plus hours a week. Try doubling that and that's what my husband works. He's able to squeeze in a basketball league once a week. If he's lucky.

Yuppers, I rock.. thanks ! If I want to pat myself on the back I sure will, but I mentioned those things to just show that I have an interesting perspective on the whole thing.

I wasn't telling you how to spend your time-- i choose to make my health a priority because me being happy and healthy will keep me around longer and more active with my kids... nor do i dump them off at a sitter to go to the gym-- I get up extra early or stay up extra late and leave them sleeping with my husband at home. You had said that the other poster could not be a woman or have kids, cause if he were he would understand that it's impossible to fit those things in. It's actually NOT impossible-- If you decide not to, that's fine, not my place to tell anyone what to do.

My point certainly wasn't that you don't do enough- I don't know you at all. my point was simply that jumping all over someone else for making their health a priority and assuming a lot of facts about his personality because of it is actually the SAME attitude that the author of the magazine blog had to begin with.
 
I have been "going at it" with Firedancer for 2 hours....with a nursing, sleeping child in my lap.

And yes, I can exercise at home. I do yoga twice a week. I have a treadmill at home. It doesn't get you in the kind of shape that makes up Firedancer's "happy medium". I know because I WAS super in shape. And it took hours at the gym and thousands of sit ups. Which took a lot more time than jogging in place.

And as for using free weights, lugging around my kids counts, I think.

Just on a happy note: Don't under-estimate the benefits of your treadmill!! Your treadmill can be your best friend if you allow it to. :goodvibes I run 5-8 miles on mine 5 to 6 nights a week. Two years ago, I started out walking 3 miles in an hour, and now this 40yr old mom of 3 is capable of running 6 miles in an hour. I love running outside, but there just isn't enough hours of light for my schedule so the treadmill has become my best friend. Over the last two years, I have lost 35lbs and gone from a size 12 to a size 4. I think it has given me that "happy medium". I just thought I would encourage you with my experience because I know how hard it can be to exercise outside of the home when you have children. The treadmill has been a miracle worker for me!!:thumbsup2
 
Yuppers, I rock.. thanks ! If I want to pat myself on the back I sure will, but I mentioned those things to just show that I have an interesting perspective on the whole thing.

I wasn't telling you how to spend your time-- i choose to make my health a priority because me being happy and healthy will keep me around longer and more active with my kids... nor do i dump them off at a sitter to go to the gym-- I get up extra early or stay up extra late and leave them sleeping with my husband at home. You had said that the other poster could not be a woman or have kids, cause if he were he would understand that it's impossible to fit those things in. It's actually NOT impossible-- If you decide not to, that's fine, not my place to tell anyone what to do.

My point certainly wasn't that you don't do enough- I don't know you at all. my point was simply that jumping all over someone else for making their health a priority and assuming a lot of facts about his personality because of it is actually the SAME attitude that the author of the magazine blog had to begin with.

Again, reading comp. I NEVER said impossible, I said "really hard". Go back and look yourself.

How awesome you can leave your children with a sleeping husband. Mine is usually at work.

Making health a priority is a great thing. I know I do. We are privileged enough to eat organic and we get what exercise we can. My initial point (probably poorly made) was in response to Fire Dancer's happy medium pics. It takes a lot of time and effort at the gym to look like that. I know. And I flat out do not have it....not if my kids are priority one, which they are. As I said before, I'm not overweight. I am definitely out of the shape I used to be in. Doesn't mean health is not a priority. Just means having an athlete's body is not my number one goal in life at the moment. And it is in no way a "happy medium" either.

The size 14 models pictured above look awfully healthy to me. Is anyone saying their health is obviously not a priority because they don't have the bodies of Fire Dancer's pictures? Because people in this thread sure seem to be implying it.
 
Just on a happy note: Don't under-estimate the benefits of your treadmill!! Your treadmill can be your best friend if you allow it to. :goodvibes I run 5-8 miles on mine 5 to 6 nights a week. Two years ago, I started out walking 3 miles in an hour, and now this 40yr old mom of 3 is capable of running 6 miles in an hour. I love running outside, but there just isn't enough hours of light for my schedule so the treadmill has become my best friend. Over the last two years, I have lost 35lbs and gone from a size 12 to a size 4. I think it has given me that "happy medium". I just thought I would encourage you with my experience because I know how hard it can be to exercise outside of the home when you have children. The treadmill has been a miracle worker for me!!:thumbsup2

I think you have just inspired me. I was over weight and then had a hysterectomy last Dec. OMG, what that surgery can do to you. But I refuse to use it as an excuse, I will get on that treadmill and start, after all I have a cruise in 8 months.
 
Again, reading comp. I NEVER said impossible, I said "really hard". Go back and look yourself.

How awesome you can leave your children with a sleeping husband. Mine is usually at work.

Making health a priority is a great thing. I know I do. We are privileged enough to eat organic and we get what exercise we can. My initial point (probably poorly made) was in response to Fire Dancer's happy medium pics. It takes a lot of time and effort at the gym to look like that. I know. And I flat out do not have it....not if my kids are priority one, which they are. As I said before, I'm not overweight. I am definitely out of the shape I used to be in. Doesn't mean health is not a priority. Just means having an athlete's body is not my number one goal in life at the moment. And it is in no way a "happy medium" either.

The size 14 models pictured above look awfully healthy to me. Is anyone saying their health is obviously not a priority because they don't have the bodies of Fire Dancer's pictures? Because people in this thread sure seem to be implying it.

actually it's the kids that are sleeping, not the husband- I didn't mention how many hours a day that my husband spends working because it's not really relavent to this whole conversation... He pulls more than his fair share. He doesn't get to the gym, and he is slender but extremely out of shape and knows it.. He doesn't make his health the same priority that i make mine, which is OK, it's his body :)

I was taking issue with your tone and statement, not really your point.. Even when we make our health a priority, we all have different shapes and sizes and It's not my job to tell if someone is in good shape or not. You can be slender and out of shape.

my kids are priority one too. I am a close second. I would argue that most woman don't put themselves on the list at ALL which is partially why we have such weight and body image issues.
 
I think you have just inspired me. I was over weight and then had a hysterectomy last Dec. OMG, what that surgery can do to you. But I refuse to use it as an excuse, I will get on that treadmill and start, after all I have a cruise in 8 months.

I love my treadmill too. Use it when I can. Get the right shoes! Your knees will thank you for it.
 
my kids are priority one too. I am a close second. I would argue that most woman don't put themselves on the list at ALL which is partially why we have such weight and body image issues.

I completely agree with this. It's why I started yoga. But twice a week is just not enough. I think an hour a day 5X a week might be right. Can't swing it now. Maybe one day.
 
I put her down, she wakes up. Care to come over and take her for me? She'd scream bloody murder, though.

A little off topic, but some screaming won't kill her and she will learn to go to sleep. Sorry, not trying to be a know it all, just trying to help and yes I had a real screamer, took him longer than the other 2, but he eventually got it.

AGain, not trying to tell you how to do this, but that all important rest for mom, well you know. Man I am soooo glad I don't have babies anymore. Take care.
 
A little off topic, but some screaming won't kill her and she will learn to go to sleep. Sorry, not trying to be a know it all, just trying to help and yes I had a real screamer, took him longer than the other 2, but he eventually got it.

Yeah, definitely don't want to derail, but I will never do CIO.
 













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