Did You See Bill Maher's Disgusting Croc Hunter Halloween Costume?

[JunieJay]

But we so pick and choose about this! We're mad at the Dixie Chicks, so they are fair game for death threats. We don't like Michael J. Fox campaigning for the Democrats, so he's fair game even with his horrible illness. We don't like Bush, so a movie about his assasination doesn't seem offensive.

All of these things are I'm sure very painful to the families, and yet we only defend the ones we care about.

Not really. I think its a matter of respecting the dead.

 

[Principessa Alba]

Not really. I think its a matter of respecting the dead.

To each his own, but I'd like to at least try to respect my fellow human beings. At least I'm willing to admit that it's harder when it's someone I don't care for (Like George Bush).

 

[poohandwendy]

Oh, I think I remember them being accused of *whining".

I'm not talking about you personally, after all, just human nature.

Yes...whining about people not liking what they said, whining about how unfair they have been treated, whining about radio stations not playing their music.

I do not think anyone thought or expressed that their concerns over death threats were unfounded.

 

[Principessa Alba]

Yes...whining about people not liking what they said, whining about how unfair they have been treated, whining about radio stations not playing their music.

I do not think anyone thought or expressed that their concerns over death threats were unfounded.

Actually, the word whining was used for them complaining about death threats - I remember it specifically.

And obviously not everyone feels this way. Which is my point. We all defend who we respect and feel people we don't respect are fair game, and it's all quite subjective.

 

[Amity 3]

I understand your point, but the thing is, while Steve Irwin did make money, money wasn't his goal. His heart was with wildlife. He promoted the cause to raise money for things he believed in. If you don't share this opinion, I'd bet you haven't followed his career very closely.

Disagree with his POV all you want, but to mock him is nothing less than repulsive.

I don't disagree with his POV, he did good things for wildlife preservation. he risked his life daily to educate people, I admired that.

but when he died, I was of the opinion, 'that's too bad'. not fall down in the fetal position and cry over it. I don't understand the outpouring of emotion over the guy's death.

the costume may be tasteless, but it doesn't bother me at all.

 

[N.Bailey]

If you are talking to me - I meant that Robin should be apologized to, not do the apologizing.

I did apologize to her. You must have missed it. I really didn't want to offend her. I only wanted to try and show her what she was saying from a different point of view.

Ya know, Sharon Tate's mother was against the death penalty and spoke out as often as possible against it. When her daughter was brutally murdered, she immediately changed her stance on the death penalty. I am certainly not knocking the woman, but how fair is it for her to have judged that no one who killed prior to that time should have received the penalty, but the 2nd it hit home, she did a complete 180?

While this is really understandable, it's also sad that we're not able to put ourselves in that position before it hits home. Then when it does, we have a completely different opinion.

Right or wrong (I think it was wrong and while I'm not sorry for trying to show Robin how she might feel if it did hit home, I am sorry to have caused her grief, as I really hoped she wouldn't get hung up on hypothetical per say, but rather the entire picture) it does show we hold a double standard. One for ourselves, and one for others.

I do have to get going, but will check back later. Again Robin, I am sorry that my post insulted you. I really didn't mean my post in any other way than for you to ask yourself if your opinion would change if it effected you directly. I certainly wish no ill on any member of your family.

 

[poohandwendy]

Actually, the word whining was used for them complaining about death threats - I remember it specifically.

And obviously not everyone feels this way. Which is my point. We all defend who we respect and feel people we don't respect are fair game, and it's all quite subjective.

As to the first part, that is wrong, IMHO.

As to the second point, not true, at least for me. I don't like the DCs, but I vehemently disagree with anyone who thinks their receiving death threats is ok, in any way shape or form. And if anything happened to any of them, be it sickness or death, I would strongly disagree with Halloween costumes illustrating their tragedy. It's disrespectful to the dead, it's disrespectful to the grieving family members.

That goes for anyone, not just people I respect.

 

[JunieJay]

To each his own, but I'd like to at least try to respect my fellow human beings. At least I'm willing to admit that it's harder when it's someone I don't care for (Like George Bush).

Well I don't much care for him either. And I do care for and admire the Dixie Chicks. However, I'm a lot more offended by this costume than I am the fact people have dismissed the Dixie Chick's death threats. I guess because Steve Irwin is dead, and his family is still grieiving. I believe he and the circumstances of his death should be off limits when it comes to Halloween costumes. I'd feel the same way if it were a celebrity I didn't like, but I admit to having a special fondness for Steve Irwin.

 

[Principessa Alba]

I did apologize to her. You must have missed it. .

I know! I saw it! Thanks! I didn't miss it!

THis is getting confusing - I just said that because I thought someone else had thought I meant Robin should apologize to you, and I was clarifying.

People usually just drop off the face of the earth for awhile here on this board instead of apologizing so thanks!

 

[tiggersmom2]

I don't disagree with his POV, he did good things for wildlife preservation. he risked his life daily to educate people, I admired that.

but when he died, I was of the opinion, 'that's too bad'. not fall down in the fetal position and cry over it. I don't understand the outpouring of emotion over the guy's death.

the costume may be tasteless, but it doesn't bother me at all.

Yep, that is how I feel too.

 

[poohandwendy]

Just wondering, in the muck of it all, has it been CONFIRMED that BM actually wore this costume?

It's tasteless however it came about, but I am still hoping he had no part in it.

 

[Principessa Alba]

As to the first part, that is wrong, IMHO.

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Actually, I found it. It involves dragging the person into this that said it, and I'm not sure I would like it if someone did that to me. But someone did in fact refer to it as whining.

But who cares. That's not the point. The point is how subjective this all is. We can all just talk about our own personal feelings.

 

[gobears!]

Weirdly enough, I just read online that the Steve Irwin death costume is one of the most popular this season.

Just goes to show there are a lot of people with a morbid sense of humor out there.

 

[poohandwendy]

I don't disagree with his POV, he did good things for wildlife preservation. he risked his life daily to educate people, I admired that.

but when he died, I was of the opinion, 'that's too bad'. not fall down in the fetal position and cry over it. I don't understand the outpouring of emotion over the guy's death.

LOL, I really don't know anyone who felt a 'fall down in the fetal position and cry over it', but I do think his death touched many people more than usual because he was such an unusual celebrity.

Yes, he made alot of money, but he seemed to keep his regular life and attitude intact. From what I read, I cannot substantiate it, he put MOST of his income back into his causes and did not die a wealthy man. (comparitively)

I think people identified with the human side of him that many celebs just do not allow the public to see. And you also have the fact that he died in very unusual circumstances, left behind a young family. All of it was something people could relate to on a more personal level than usual, I think.

 

[poohandwendy]

Actually, I found it. It involves dragging the person into this that said it, and I'm not sure I would like it if someone did that to me. But someone did in fact refer to it as whining.

But who cares. That's not the point. The point is how subjective this all is. We can all just talk about our own personal feelings.

I understand and take your word for it, I respect the fact that you didn't drag anyone else into this. Point taken.

 

[disneyfan67]

If Bill Maher was reading some of these posts, he not only would be laughing at you, he would be making fun of you as well. How did a half rate comedian/political commentator like Maher, end up getting this much anger out of some of you? He did this a tasteless joke and to get a rise out of you. Mission accomplished! He's a jack***, what did you expect?

Yes it was tasteless and tacky, but why do we need to get so upset over something trivial as this? Steve Irwin was a famous celebrity that pushed the envolpe of saftey when it came to dealing with dangerous animals/reptiles. In the public arena if you're a celebrity, you're basicly fair game to the public. I felt sorry for his children losing their dad, but I didn't deel the deep sorrow some of you felt when he passed away. I didn't know the man personally and probably none of you did as well.

I never understood why some people in this "celebrity obsessed culture" we live in, get so worked up when some famous person dies? After all the're on our tv's to entertain us, not for us to get into every aspect of their lives. Look at some of the posts about Mr. Irwin when he died and how emotional some posters have gotten over his passing. Some even said that they weren't sleeping or felt a deep depression. It's not healthy to get into that type of mindset, imo, and doesn't do anyone any good.


It just doesn't make sense how some feel bad about a celebrity dying that you didn't really know. Yet we have had the worst month in Iraq for Americans dying and I hear no one feeling bad about that. The American soldiers are doing something real for us and protecting our way of life, but what are we mad at? An asanine, washed up, shrill comedian who wore a stupid halloween costume! He wasn't the only one who wore that and according to published reports, it was a popular costume this year. I don't get popular culture and find most of it tasteless, but what can you do about it? Bill Maher has done and said far worse than this and probably didn't even give this a second thought after that picture was taken.


I'm sure I'll be flamed for what I'm saying and I accept that. I just don't get how grown adults are getting this angry over something this trival and stupid. Flame away if you must.

 

[Principessa Alba]

It just doesn't make sense how some feel bad about a celebrity dying that you didn't really know. Yet we have had the worst month in Iraq for Americans dying and I hear no one feeling bad about that. The American soldiers are doing something real for us and protecting our way of life, but what are we mad at? An asanine, washed up, shrill comedian who wore a stupid halloween costume!

I'm sure I'll be flamed for what I'm saying and I accept that.

Hey, no flames here. I feel like giving you a standing ovation. What the heck, I'll do it anyway. You'll just have to picture me doing it!

 

[cardaway]

Weirdly enough, I just read online that the Steve Irwin death costume is one of the most popular this season.

Just goes to show there are a lot of people with a morbid sense of humor out there.

Yup. Pretty morbid, but people dressing up in this costume are not hurting the Irwin family unless they go to their house or attend the same party as the Irwins.

 

[Obi-Wan Pinobi]

Steve Irwin did make a lot of money but I did want to point out something I read in an interview with one of his friends after his death. Practically everything he made went into his zoo and conservation efforts. His friend said that they lived a pretty simple life. There were many times that he would be on location and want to pick up a $10 trinket to bring home to his daughter and find himself with no money and would ask his friends to help him out.

I just wanted to point that out in case there were some people thinking he was living in the lap of luxury like we see most celebrities do. Not that there is anything wrong with that. If I made millions of dollars I'm sure I would be lving pretty large myself.

 

[poohandwendy]

Yes it was tasteless and tacky, but why do we need to get so upset over something trivial as this?

You know, I often read posts with this same sentiment and I wanted to address this. This is a message board. I would think that for the most part, people are not really 'so upset' as it appears. Just discussing a topic. We leave, go to another topic and post funny things, go do laundry, make dinner, help the kids with homework, go to work...without another thought.

So while our responses appear to show an unbalanced level of upset, it's really only a discussion of a topic for most. If Bill Maher actually reads this, LOL, he would only get an ego boost that was based on fantasy. I highly doubt most people actually give him or any other multi-page topic much second thought beyond the time spent here.