my neighbors were having a big bbq one year and their grandson, who was about 5 or 6 went and peed on one of the trees in the backyard (no swimming involved in this one). His grandmother told his father to yell at him, so the father said something to the kid about not peeing outside and the kid yelled back across the yard, "Why, you do it all the time"![]()

My boys have a special tree in the back yard that they use. Nobody can see them and they do not ever do it when people are over. My dd has never went outside but we've come pretty close to having an accident when we were trying to dry her off and get her suit off in time, so I could understand it being much easier to go outdoors. I don't see the big deal of having a kid pee in a private spot in their own backyard.
You can put me in the eewww camp for peeing with the suit still on though
