Did anyone watch Undercover Boss last night?

[SaraJayne]

Was I correct in hearing that Sue has a 29 year old daughter and a 19 year old granddaughter?

Was I hearing things?

 

[Dee77]

I watched it and actually I thought that maybe the grand-daughter is from her son who passed away, not sure though.

 

[SaraJayne]

I watched it and actually I thought that maybe the grand-daughter is from her son who passed away, not sure though.

Her son was 21 when he passed, but she never said how long ago that was. It seemed fairly recent, though.

 

[~disneydiva~]

Was I correct in hearing that Sue has a 29 year old daughter and a 19 year old granddaughter?

Was I hearing things?

That's what I thought I heard too.

 

[plutotek]

I watched it and actually I thought that maybe the grand-daughter is from her son who passed away, not sure though.

That is the way we perceived it,given the age of the daughter.

 

[eeyoremum]

That is what I thought too. Then I thought of the son who died. Maybe his daughter.

I was kind of focused on the fact that the staff took a 10% pay cut. What about him and his "executive team"? Looking at the house he lives in he could take a pay cut too.

 

[SaraJayne]

That is what I thought too. Then I thought of the son who died. Maybe his daughter.

I was kind of focused on the fact that the staff took a 10% pay cut. What about him and his "executive team"? Looking at the house he lives in he could take a pay cut too.

I agree with you. I wasn't impressed with the whole executive team at all of Frontier.

I'm glad I've never given them any business.

And how kind of them to give a 3% increase over the next 3 years. Which replaces the 10% pay cut they already took.

I bet none of the top level executives took pay cuts...

 

[RadioFanatic]

I thought the same thing about the paycut - literally ten seconds after he talkied about the cut they showed his indoor basketball court and lake with fountains.

 

[RunningGirl]

I'm in agreement that showing his lavish lifestyle in comparison to the lowest paid workers taking a 10% cut was really stupid. It looks like if he cut 10% of his salary he could give everyone else back their money!

Not really impressed with him, and since no one thought they had time to actually talk with the customers or clean properly how is Frontier any different than any other airline?

By the way, if I'm struggling to make ends meet a $10K contribution to "a charity of my choice" wouldn't really thrill me too much. Did he give her anything else?

 

[krcit]

I just assumed that the grand-daughter was from her son. I wasn't too impressed by his 'gifts' to the workers and the 3 years to get their 10% back. Puhhhleaaze....I wonder what his salary is?

 

[kaytieeldr]

In three years, they still won't have gotten back their 10% decrease.

Using $25,000: 10% decrease = $22,500
Plus 3% after one year = $23,175
Plus 3% after second year = $23,870.25
Plus 3% after third year = $24,586.36

Only a fourth 3% increase would get them back to where they would have been without the original pay cut - and doesn't account for any cost of living or other increases they could/should/would have gotten between the cut and four years from now.

But it was interesting to watch

 

[SaraJayne]

I'm in agreement that showing his lavish lifestyle in comparison to the lowest paid workers taking a 10% cut was really stupid. It looks like if he cut 10% of his salary he could give everyone else back their money!

Not really impressed with him, and since no one thought they had time to actually talk with the customers or clean properly how is Frontier any different than any other airline?

By the way, if I'm struggling to make ends meet a $10K contribution to "a charity of my choice" wouldn't really thrill me too much. Did he give her anything else?

I agree with you. I looked at DH and said "that's it? Money to a CHARITY of her choice??"

No, they didn't show that he gave her anything else. I would have much rather had the money for myself.

 

[cm8]

I'm in agreement that showing his lavish lifestyle in comparison to the lowest paid workers taking a 10% cut was really stupid. It looks like if he cut 10% of his salary he could give everyone else back their money!

Not really impressed with him, and since no one thought they had time to actually talk with the customers or clean properly how is Frontier any different than any other airline?

By the way, if I'm struggling to make ends meet a $10K contribution to "a charity of my choice" wouldn't really thrill me too much. Did he give her anything else?

 

[lovin diz]

my thought was you can give all that money to charity for a tax write off, but you cant give her a small raise???

 

[waltsgirl]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one. I was floored by this guy's house and how shocked he was that his employees are struggling... HELLO.

 

[CathrynRose]

This was the 1st one I watched, that I didn't bother to watch the end. The guy was pompous and annoyed me to no end.

And I realize there should not be any religious discussion, however - if some new cleaning guy started and I told him how I lost my 21 y/o son, and he said anything along the lines of "It was God's plan....." I think I would have decked him one, good.

I didn't like that guy, at all. Jerk.

 

[RUDisney]

I wondered if he had his executive committee pray before every meeting. He was a little over the top about religion, but I guess that is the way a lot of people are in their beliefs.

He was definitely less empathetic than most of the executives that they've had on this show. Well, maybe with the exception of the Hooter's CEO.

 

[waltsgirl]

Here's some good reading,,,


In May 2008, Frontier's union and non-union workers accepted voluntary pay cuts, which were designed to help the company recover from bankruptcy. The following year, Frontier negotiated further employee concessions as it emerged from bankruptcy.


Originally, these cuts were supposed to be temporary: According to an internal memo, employees were going to be returned to full pay in September 2008. Of course, such cuts weren't evenly applied across the company: While trimming tens of millions out of labor costs, Bedford received a yearly bonus that jumped from $619,535 in 2007 to $620,000 in 2008. This was in addition to stock options, salary, and other benefits. Meanwhile, pay for crew schedulers airline is $11 per hour, while customer service reps pull in $26,000 per year.


According to Forbes, Bedford didn't receive a bonus in 2009, which meant that his total compensation package totaled $1,354,067. In other words, even with a 31% pay cut, he still made more than 52 times as much as the people who sell tickets for his airline, and his hourly wage was almost ten times that of the people who fly the planes.

Of course this is probably not much different than most of the bosses that are this show. Great Wolf Lodge, her compensation is huge.

 

[SaraJayne]

Here's some good reading,,,


In May 2008, Frontier's union and non-union workers accepted voluntary pay cuts, which were designed to help the company recover from bankruptcy. The following year, Frontier negotiated further employee concessions as it emerged from bankruptcy.


Originally, these cuts were supposed to be temporary: According to an internal memo, employees were going to be returned to full pay in September 2008. Of course, such cuts weren't evenly applied across the company: While trimming tens of millions out of labor costs, Bedford received a yearly bonus that jumped from $619,535 in 2007 to $620,000 in 2008. This was in addition to stock options, salary, and other benefits. Meanwhile, pay for crew schedulers airline is $11 per hour, while customer service reps pull in $26,000 per year.


According to Forbes, Bedford didn't receive a bonus in 2009, which meant that his total compensation package totaled $1,354,067. In other words, even with a 31% pay cut, he still made more than 52 times as much as the people who sell tickets for his airline, and his hourly wage was almost ten times that of the people who fly the planes.

That is disgusting. Thanks for the info...

 

[Handbag Lady]

Here's some good reading,,,


In May 2008, Frontier's union and non-union workers accepted voluntary pay cuts, which were designed to help the company recover from bankruptcy. The following year, Frontier negotiated further employee concessions as it emerged from bankruptcy.


Originally, these cuts were supposed to be temporary: According to an internal memo, employees were going to be returned to full pay in September 2008. Of course, such cuts weren't evenly applied across the company: While trimming tens of millions out of labor costs, Bedford received a yearly bonus that jumped from $619,535 in 2007 to $620,000 in 2008. This was in addition to stock options, salary, and other benefits. Meanwhile, pay for crew schedulers airline is $11 per hour, while customer service reps pull in $26,000 per year.


According to Forbes, Bedford didn't receive a bonus in 2009, which meant that his total compensation package totaled $1,354,067. In other words, even with a 31% pay cut, he still made more than 52 times as much as the people who sell tickets for his airline, and his hourly wage was almost ten times that of the people who fly the planes.

Of course this is probably not much different than most of the bosses that are this show. Great Wolf Lodge, her compensation is huge.

That is disgusting. Thanks for the info...

And, he couldn't even keep up with them. He seemed to me to be someone putting on airs. When he was loading the plane and talking to the passengers, he wasn't really talking with them. He was talking to them as I thought he assumed he wants his airline to treat passengers.

As for the multi-skilled employees (I forget their terminology) he thinks that them going from the heat outside to dealing with passengers inside is the problem? They can have a cool-off station between the two with strong A/C and a towel to refresh. But, what about leaving the desk unmanned? I saw that as the biggest concern. They need one more employee there.