Demographic is changing Covid-19

[Imzadi]

Plenty of older Americans not taking it seriously either. Very frustrating all the way around.

Yes. I saw that Stop & Shop has reserved special hours for just the elderly & immune compromised to shop. This morning while on Target's website, trying to order stuff, I saw they too will have the first hour on Wed mornings reserved for the elderly immune compromised.

On the one hand, I think that's good they have a special time. On the other hand, I'm thinking, IS it really good to have them all in together at the same time? It would be like one big Petri dish of the most vulnerable people.

Doctors are finding now that some people are asymptomatic and are spreaders because of it. So, if one or two elderly people are still out, hob-nobing about, not caring to take precautions, and have become asymptomatic spreaders and then go into the stores during the reserved hours to shop as they fit the elderly criteria, they could potentially infect everyone they come in contact just by handling all the same products.

This morning, the medical expert on ABC News said that it has been determined that the Coronavirus stays alive for 24 hours on cardboard surfaces and 3 days on plastics and hard surfaces. Stores can't wipe down every package in the store. So the virus may already be on some packages. Yet, an asymptomatic spreader handling the same cans of creamed corn & tuna, then putting several back as they decide they'll just come back in a few days if they need them, as they aren't isolating, may be adding fresh Coronavirus to the packages that an elderly person next to them then picks up. In some ways, I think it gives a false sense of security that shopping during reserved hours is safer.

 

[KBoopaloo]

Both people I know hospitalized with it here are under 50 (one is under 40). Both are on ventilators. One in a medically induced coma. One is finally showing some gradual improvement (has been hospitalized for 10 days). Both non-smokers with no underlying conditions that they were aware of. It is very scary.

 

[Diznygrl]

So great to get misinformation during all of this.

Just wait til April Fool's Day. I have a feeling this year it's going to be a doozy!

 

[TLSnell1981]

And you read it on the internet, so it must be true?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ibuprofen-for-covid-19-leaves-experts-baffledEven the WHO is walking back their advice to avoid ibuprofen.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/19/metro/is-it-safe-take-ibuprofen-amid-coronavirus-pandemic/

The only pressing issue I have is arthritis . I regularly use ibuprofen. I take my temp before each dose as a precaution. Don’t know if it matters but was told it might ...so I do it.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Just wait til April Fool's Day. I have a feeling this year it's going to be a doozy!

We are sick and have a twisted (inappropriate) sense of humor .

 

[Imzadi]

The only pressing issueI have is arthritis . I regularly use ibuprofen. I take my temp before each dose as a precaution. Don’t know if it matters but was told it might ...so I do it.

According to Dr Oz, he said the researchers are saying Ibuprofen may inhibit some functioning in the lower lungs, where Covid-19 likes to hang out, once it gets in. So, Ibuprofen may not be the best choice to fight getting over it. Acetaminophen may be better. If you're fine, it might not be a problem. But, I'm not a doctor, so continue to do your own research. I just noted what he said as I prefer to take Ibuprofen for stuff too over Acetaminophen. Luckily I had bought one bottle a while back in case guests prefer it over Ibuprofen.

 

[mousefan73]

I fear this is where the obesity problem will bite western civilization in the bum. Each country/ culture has it’s factors that may affect the statistics. In China people are less obese, each a different diet. But they have pollution as a factor and that 60% of men are smokers.
In Italy average age is older, smokers.

U.S. obesity and diet I fear will play a role. I have seen on People and other sites where they post pictures of young patients hospitalized. The majority I saw were on the heavy/ obese side. I myself and heavy. The last two weeks I have been walking. / running 5 miles a day. Nothing else to do besides walk anyways! Working on lung strength for the future.

 

[mousefan73]

According to Dr Oz, he said the researchers are saying Ibuprofen may inhibit some functioning in the lower lungs, where Covid-19 likes to hang out, once it gets in. So, Ibuprofen may be the best choice to fight getting over it. Acetaminophen may be better. If you're fine, it might not be a problem. But, I'm not a doctor, so continue to do your own research. I just noted what he said as I prefer to take Ibuprofen for stuff too over Acetaminophen. Luckily I have one bottle of Acetaminophen.

The whole ibuprofen vs Acetaminophen is disputed or not. We have both in the house, in my opinion even if something is not 100% proven if you have a choice lean on the side of error and go for the one that’s disputed. So in this case no more ibuprofen for us. We have that choice. Same thing with apple cider vinegar, it’s also disputed and not proven but doesn’t hurt me. So every day I’m drinking a bit with water. It doesn’t cost much money and it’s not hurting me who knows maybe there’s a glimmer of truth.

I believe there’s always a little bit of truth in things that have been passed on a homeopathic care centuries along.Non-traditional medicine for example ginger. For two years I’ve been drinking ginger tea all the time and I have not had a bad cold. Has not been medically proven but I think there’s some truth in that. Like I said it doesn’t cost much and hurt.

 

[DisneyOma]

This is sort of what I am seeing. My younger relatives (most of them are in their 20s) are still living life as usual. Posting pictures on Facebook of vacations in New Orleans, for example, in the midst of all this. Going ahead with plans and parties. It's very frustrating to me that they don't take it seriously.

The virus will spread, and we want it to - we just want to slow it down. We are not going to get containment and extinction of it, we want healthy people to get it and create the herd immunity that keeps our more fragile safe. Think of it this way - if you don't get it now, you're going to get it later.

According to Dr Oz, he said the researchers are saying Ibuprofen may inhibit some functioning in the lower lungs, where Covid-19 likes to hang out, once it gets in. So, Ibuprofen may not be the best choice to fight getting over it. Acetaminophen may be better. If you're fine, it might not be a problem. But, I'm not a doctor, so continue to do your own research. I just noted what he said as I prefer to take Ibuprofen for stuff too over Acetaminophen. Luckily I had bought one bottle a while back in case guests prefer it over Ibuprofen.

You lost credibility in my eyes when you started with "according to Dr. Oz"- he sold his soul to his media image years ago.

 

[ShirikiUtundu]

According to Dr Oz

please do not start any sentence like that if you are trying to give good, real information

 

[Dead2009]

Could this be related to more older people taking it very seriously, while more younger people feel that they are completely invincible? Makes sense to me, and reiterates how we all have to work together to get through this.

I dont think ANYONE feels they're completely invincible. The media did tell everyone for weeks that the most vulnerable were the very young or the elderly.....not to mention almost all of the younger people who have passed also had some sort of illness as well.

 

[TLSnell1981]

please do not start any sentence like that if you are trying to give good, real information

I skipped over the Dr. Oz reference. I thought of my regular medication masking a fever. We are regularly monitoring temps.

 

[PlainJane]

People not taking it seriously seems to span all ages. Yes, partiers on a beach are going to make headlines, but old people obstinately going to their favorite diner or Home Depot (for things like gardening supplies) does not. Very anecdotally, the people I know taking it the most seriously are in their late 20s-40s.

Do they have reputable polls on this? Spring Breakers getting drunk on a beach definitely did not represent me when I was a wee lass in college (not that long ago).

 

[luvsJack]

please do not start any sentence like that if you are trying to give good, real information

Don’t follow Dr Oz but the same information has been all over the news. It’s not just coming from him.

 

[Ben E N]

People not taking it seriously seems to span all ages. Yes, partiers on a beach are going to make headlines, but old people obstinately going to their favorite diner or Home Depot (for things like gardening supplies) does not. Very anecdotally, the people I know taking it the most seriously are in their late 20s-40s.

Do they have reputable polls on this? Spring Breakers getting drunk on a beach definitely did not represent me when I was a wee lass in college (not that long ago).

I literally just did a final Home Depot run before they shut it down tomorrow and was shocked by how many people, mostly 40 to 60 year old males, were on top of one another. I'm going to the stores assuming everyone is sick and here these people were lined up at the paint counter like they were at Disney World. I don't think the virus has made it's way to our town yet, but clearly the people at the store didn't mind chancing it. I can see why it is being forcibly shut down now.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Don’t follow Dr Oz but the same information has been all over the news. It’s not just coming from him.

FWIW..still doesn't mean it's reliable. I haven't seen or heard of any research that supports the claims on the "news".

 

[erc]

I don't think the virus has made it's way to our town yet, but clearly the people at the store didn't mind chancing it. I can see why it is being forcibly shut down now.

Why? This isn't Ebola. Yeah, people should try to keep their space, but geez shutting down everything because there is a chance you might come close to another human is just plain overreaction.

 

[Ben E N]

Why? This isn't Ebola. Yeah, people should try to keep their space, but geez shutting down everything because there is a chance you might come close to another human is just plain overreaction.

1. It's super contagious. People are spreading it without knowing they have it. Ebola causes like a 110 fever, so people with it are rarely found shopping at home depot.
2. The hospitals just aren't ready for this. It's not fair to ask doctors to take up the responsibility on this when we haven't given them the equipment they need. I feel bad for all those who have died in Italy, but especially bad for the 13 healthcare workers who have died trying to care for them.
3. The more we get trained to take this seriously, the more ready we are for when a more serious virus does rip through our communities. With a growing world population and increased international travel, this will not be our only go around with something like this.

 

[erc]

1. It's super contagious. People are spreading it without knowing they have it. Ebola causes like a 110 fever, so people with it are rarely found shopping at home depot.
2. The hospitals just aren't ready for this. It's not fair to ask doctors to take up the responsibility on this when we haven't given them the equipment they need. I feel bad for all those who have died in Italy, but especially bad for the 13 healthcare workers who have died trying to care for them.
3. The more we get trained to take this seriously, the more ready we are for when a more serious virus does rip through our communities. With a growing world population and increased international travel, this will not be our only go around with something like this.

I'm just saying this has escalated from no gatherings of 100 or more, to no gatherings of 50 or more, to no gatherings of 10 or more, to don't even look at another guy at Home Depot.

It is called flattening, not stopping. It shouldn't take complete isolation and everything shut down to achieve flattening. A good percentage of people are going to get it and a good percentage will barely know they have it. I have no doubt that when this is all through they will say, well, we didn't need to go as far as we did, but now we know more for the next time.

 

[Ben E N]

I'm just saying this has escalated from no gatherings of 100 or more, to no gatherings of 50 or more, to no gatherings of 10 or more, to don't even look at another guy at Home Depot.

It is called flattening, not stopping. It shouldn't take complete isolation and everything shut down to achieve flattening. A good percentage of people are going to get it and a good percentage will barely know they have it. I have no doubt that when this is all through they will say, well, we didn't need to go as far as we did, but now we know more for the next time.

I know where your thinking is coming from because I was thinking the same myself just a couple of days ago. The real issue we are dealing with though is how insanely unprepared our hospitals are. This is actually about stopping the curve as much as possible right now. We can flatten it later, but somehow, despite knowing this was coming for a matter of months, factories are just now being instructed to create protective equipment for doctors and nurses. We are paying now for the mistakes made in the past couple of months. The less we do now, the more sacrifices we will have to make in the coming weeks.