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Democratic Representitive Rangel Calls for Reinstating Military Draft: Great way to introduce the new Democratic controlled congress.



http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,230598,00.html

Rangel Calls for Reinstating Military Draft

Sunday , November 19, 2006




WASHINGTON — A senior House Democrat said Sunday he will introduce legislation to reinstate the military draft, asserting that current troop levels are insufficient to sustain possible challenges against Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose the measure early next year.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," he said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, incoming chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 -- now about 16 million -- from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.
 
I also hear the same dude is calling for certain tax increases. No surprise.
 
Wonder who all the liberals will *itch about now :lmao:
 
Is he serious?? Does he have some other motive, such as just trying to make a point about something and using this as a means to trigger discussion?? I hope he doesn't find any support for reinstating the draft.
 

Just heard it on the news..wow!

I love his reasoning for reinstating the draft.

“There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.


Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, has said the all-volunteer military disproportionately puts the burden of war on minorities and lower-income families.”

I guess he might just get his wish next year. :confused3



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I agree with Rangel. No reason why the chickenhawks' kids shouldn't go with the other kids over there.

Of course, most of their kids will end up "finding" a way out, like George W. did.

If you voted for the war and you support the war, you or your kids should be there fighting it.
 
charlie said:
I guess he might just get his wish next year. :confused3



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It should please John McCain. Then he can get all the extra troops he wants to send to Iraq.
 
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He's called for this in years past.

Is he also going to approve increases in Defense Spending to cover the cost??

The volunteer forces we have today are the most highly motivated & trained & capable that we've probably ever had.

He's gonna toss a bunch of people in that don't want to be there?

Stupid.

It's not that he's a Democrat, It's Just That He's Stupid.
 
fabshelly said:
I agree with Rangel. No reason why the chickenhawks' kids shouldn't go with the other kids over there.

Of course, most of their kids will end up "finding" a way out, like George W. did.

If you voted for the war and you support the war, you or your kids should be there fighting it.

Will anyone you know who doesn't support the war and gets drafted run to Canada to avoid the draft?

You are aware that some members of Congress already have children serving. And GWB did serve. In the NG. But tell the NG that they aren't the "real" army. Go ahead.
 
fabshelly said:
I agree with Rangel. No reason why the chickenhawks' kids shouldn't go with the other kids over there.

Of course, most of their kids will end up "finding" a way out, like George W. did.

If you voted for the war and you support the war, you or your kids should be there fighting it.

I don't understand that reasoning. The "other" kids volunteered. Are you assuming that all of the "chickenhawks" kids support the war with their parents?? :confused3
 
Boooo

The man must be down right crazy! The kids there now VOLUNTEERED, They SIGNED UP THEMSELVES!

Wow, what intelligence we have :rolleyes
 
:crazy2:

The liberals will ***** about and put the blame squarely where it belongs ... on the hands of Bush and Co and those who continue to champion the war and those who love the posturing going on between the "Axis of Evil" and the "***** of evil" of this country.

I agree when Rangel says this:

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," he said.

It would be pretty hypocritical to support the war in Iraq, the urging and support of possible military action against Iran and Korea, and not support obtaining the troops to back up that rhetoric.

This liberal has never supported the war so I have no guilt or responsibility if there is a draft, just disbelief in those who continue to support the war and disbelief in anyone that would vote for the resolution to pass the draft.

Just another disgusting, ineviteble element of war Bush and those who voted him back into office are responsible for. :crazy2: He and those who voted him back into office have the full responsibility for anything and everything that happens surrounding Iraq for years if not decades after we are out of there, don't kid yourself about it being any other way. You wanted it, you got it, lock, stock and barrel, from March of 2003 until who knows when. You can't wash your hands of it, no way. Everything about it is yours for a long, long time, good, bad or indifferent, and that includes the draft if it were to happen.

Just another thing the liberals screamed about before the war started ... where were the troops going to come from to support the invasion of Iraq that was going to last a long, long time.

How sickening.

And I don't think it will happen.

At least I pray to God it won't.
 
fabshelly said:
I agree with Rangel. No reason why the chickenhawks' kids shouldn't go with the other kids over there.

Of course, most of their kids will end up "finding" a way out, like George W. did.

If you voted for the war and you support the war, you or your kids should be there fighting it.


One of the most ignorant comments I have ever read on the CB...or on any internet board.
 
Well the draft worked so well during the Vietnam war when the Democrats controlled the Senate and House...like I said in another thread....two years will be just enough time for the Democrats to screw up and ruin any chance they might have had for the Presidency in 2008 :thumbsup2
 
Laz said:
Democratic Representitive Rangel Calls for Reinstating Military Draft: Great way to introduce the new Democratic controlled congress.



http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,230598,00.html

Rangel Calls for Reinstating Military Draft

Sunday , November 19, 2006




WASHINGTON — A senior House Democrat said Sunday he will introduce legislation to reinstate the military draft, asserting that current troop levels are insufficient to sustain possible challenges against Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose the measure early next year.

At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," he said.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

"I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

Rangel, incoming chairman of the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

"If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 -- now about 16 million -- from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.

FYI, Charlie Rangel has been calling for the draft since the first days of the war. He has this strange notion that everyone should share the burden.

What the hell was he thinking? :lmao:
 
The Mayor said:
One of the most ignorant comments I have ever read on the CB...or on any internet board.


I think we can disagree with each other without resorting to calling each other stupid.
 
eclectics said:
I think we can disagree with each other without resorting to calling each other stupid.

Ignorant and stupid do not mean the same thing. Expressing an opinion that a comment is ignorant is not name calling.
 
He did this before, right when the war started. Then he said if there wasn't going to be a draft, everyone should at least have to do a couple years of military service. Then the military said, "We have enough people and if you want to force citizens into serving the government, find some other avenue, not the military, we're not flippin social workers, thank you very much."

Then he said everyone should do a couple years of civilian service. Then he piped down for a while.

Whatever.
 
SwedishMeatball said:
Ignorant and stupid do not mean the same thing. Expressing an opinion that a comment is ignorant is not name calling.


I guess we'll just have to disagree about that.
 
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