Debt Dumpers - 2014

I'm doing well.

good news is that I'm sticking to the budget. And our tax return is finally on it's way. We had to wait eight weeks before we could call to find out what the hold up was, and they said that they were concerned about identity theft (perhaps because my husband is a third?) and it could take another six weeks to come, but it looks like it might be here next week.

My question is - does this get any easier from a mental perspective? I'm finding that I'm thinking about money ALL of the time and it's exhausting.

Yes and no. I think about it a lot and spend most of my evenings double checking The Plan and scheduled $ transfers and scheduled payments. To me, it keeps me off the cruise boards. Lol
I also have made enough progress to know that it won't last forever. I'm eager to get to the point when our snowball all goes to savings instead of bills.
If it gets to the point of feeling exhausted, take a break.
 
Yes and no. I think about it a lot and spend most of my evenings double checking The Plan and scheduled $ transfers and scheduled payments. To me, it keeps me off the cruise boards. Lol
I also have made enough progress to know that it won't last forever. I'm eager to get to the point when our snowball all goes to savings instead of bills.
If it gets to the point of feeling exhausted, take a break.

I think it's exhausting for me in part because it's new. It's like having a new job and hoping that I'm good at it.

And maybe part of it is moving from debit card to cash. When I'm at the grocery store I try to pay very close attention to everything, mostly because I'm terrified of not having enough cash when I get to the register.

I'm hoping at some point it will fall into more of a routine and a way of life. I guess it's like when you decide to lose weight and suddenly you're reading lables and counting calories. I know this is going to be good for me and my family short and long-term.
 
My question is - does this get any easier from a mental perspective? I'm finding that I'm thinking about money ALL of the time and it's exhausting.

I think it gets easier. Initially, my wife and I would debate the budget endlessly, moving 50 dollars from one category to another, trying to make it all add up. Now that we have been doing this awhile, we generally know about how much to budget. Also, we can look at 6 months or a year out and just make minor adjustments if necessary. Keep up the good work.

Also, we each agreed on an extra, set amount of individual spending money. Neither of us is accountable to the other. We just show it in the budget as 'play money'. So, the budget category gets a twice a month set ATM withdraw amount, but we both can spend it on whatever we want. I think we both have used our play money at times to offset an overspend, but that way, there was no worrying about it.
 
I think it's exhausting for me in part because it's new. It's like having a new job and hoping that I'm good at it.

And maybe part of it is moving from debit card to cash. When I'm at the grocery store I try to pay very close attention to everything, mostly because I'm terrified of not having enough cash when I get to the register.

I'm hoping at some point it will fall into more of a routine and a way of life. I guess it's like when you decide to lose weight and suddenly you're reading lables and counting calories. I know this is going to be good for me and my family short and long-term.

That's true. It's not routine yet so it takes a lot of extra effort. It takes a while before it becomes routine. I feel like the debt got so high from neglect so to make it go away for good, I need to pay close attention to where money goes.

I do still use our SWA visa for everyday purchases and always pay that off every month. Actually I end up making a payment every few days so it never gets too high. We are good enough at that and know what's a usual purchase (gas for cars) and what's considered a splurge (like dinner out).
We try to stick with just 1-2 splurges per month or it will be a strain to pay at the end. We've been doing that for years with no problems but never heard of the debt snowball til I found this thread. It's so easy one you have a strategy. :cool1: In the past, once a bill was paid off, the $ would just swim around the checking acct instead of going toward another bill. It was never earmarked with a new purpose.
It wasn't "out of control" so we didn't stress out about it but once I added it all up and realized how much we actually pay toward debt, it made me realize it's time start saving that much instead of paying bills with it.

It took a while to get our snowball rolling. We refinanced at 3% which freed up another $260/month. Early on, we were still paying all those bills AND trying to put some away for a new roof then we had a big trip planned for last summer. After that I started our emergency fund. I stayed hopeful knowing that once those things were done, I could focus on paying off bills and growing our snowball. Once you get past the first few bills and see the snowball really grow, it gets easier.
I'm sort of a visual person and need to "see" it in front of me, not just ideas in my head so I found putting it all down in a Word document helps keep me from going astray.
I made a list of each paycheck for the next few months then beneath each one a list of the bills each check would cover. Then once they're paid off, I still keep it on the list but I change it to bold so I know it's part of the snowball.
Like this:
June 12 Jxxx Estimated: $xxxx
Jxxx's Kohls 65
My Kohls 65
Sears 25
My Venture 25
Reduced Sony 16+5xtra=201 $201 to Disney Visa

Truck 498.25
Sony 44
ING Xmas 25
Cushion 300-5 xtra=295
Total $1063.25 Remaining: $xxxx


June 19 Me $xxxx
Amazon 75
Refi 130=205 to Disney Visa

Electric/Gas ~350
Water ~82
ING Xmas 25
Cushion 300
Total: 962 Remaining: $xxxx



Since there's usually 4 pays per month, I color coded each week so the first pay of each month is purple, orange for 2nd week, etc. and it keeps repeating.


Then I keep another list of each bill/debt and beneath it, a list of all the payments that will be applied to it:

Disney Visa $1000

6/12 Jxxx's Kohls 65
6/12 My Kohls 65
6/12 Sears 25
6/12 My Venture 25
6/12 Reduced Sony min. 16
6/12 xtra 5
Pay: $201
Balance: $799

6/19 Amazon 75
6/19 Refi savings 130
Pay: $205
Balance: $594

6/26 Refi savings 130
6/26 Kxxx's Sax 37
Pay $167
Balance: $427


and so on til it's down to 0
Then once it's paid off, I can list Disney Visa beneath the next bill I attack, and bold it under the pay I would normally have paid my Disney visa, let's say the 2nd paycheck of the month. This way I make sure it gets added to the snowball & not lost.
This was a lot of work to establish but now I can just copy & paste to start up another month. It really keeps me on track and I know in advance how much each week to apply to debt and I can't talk myself out of it unless we're dealing with something unusual like when my car battery died. I can schedule payments for 3-4 weeks out and adjust if something comes up.
Of course this doesn't factor interest in there but it's a close enough. A lot of our debts were 0% promotions. Another thing I like about this is that I can look back and see how small the snowball payments were in the beginning and I can look ahead 6-12 months and see how much the snowball will grow. This is very motivating. :goodvibes
HTH
 

Wow hoo! Paid off CC #2 today, only 2 to go! Did a debt snowball projection and it looks like we'll be CC free by November,but hopefully sooner. We've almost paid off our cruise that we're taking in September which wasn't accounted for in the snowball so it will probably be more like September. So excited! This has been a rocky 4 years since we took FPU with us both loosing jobs, me multiple times but we never added to our debt and now it feels so good to finally see some progress.
 
Yay, last CC is paid off! I had it paid off before my April Disney World trip, but then chose to pay for my hotel room with it. Now I have paid the hotel room off, too! I'm hoping to do the rest of the year on a cash basis. I think it has taken me about 4 years to pay off it off, so I don't want to run it up again! It feels good finally paying it off, so here is some encouragement for those in the process!!! :)

Also sharing a super cheapie saving tip from my April trip. I still shopped as much as usual on my Disney World trip, but I felt satisfied photographing my Finds, rather than having to buy them to bring home. As an older adult, this worked for me. I don't think it would work that well with children. I usually spend $100+ on Park souvenirs per trip, but this time spent only about $15 cash. I felt free to buy things, but with my alternative plan, I found out I could enjoy them by having only the photograph of how marvelous they are.
 
Yay, last CC is paid off! I had it paid off before my April Disney World trip, but then chose to pay for my hotel room with it. Now I have paid the hotel room off, too! I'm hoping to do the rest of the year on a cash basis. I think it has taken me about 4 years to pay off it off, so I don't want to run it up again! It feels good finally paying it off, so here is some encouragement for those in the process!!! :) Also sharing a super cheapie saving tip from my April trip. I still shopped as much as usual on my Disney World trip, but I felt satisfied photographing my Finds, rather than having to buy them to bring home. As an older adult, this worked for me. I don't think it would work that well with children. I usually spend $100+ on Park souvenirs per trip, but this time spent only about $15 cash. I felt free to buy things, but with my alternative plan, I found out I could enjoy them by having only the photograph of how marvelous they are.

Congrats on your success!
 
I'm doing well. good news is that I'm sticking to the budget. And our tax return is finally on it's way. We had to wait eight weeks before we could call to find out what the hold up was, and they said that they were concerned about identity theft (perhaps because my husband is a third?) and it could take another six weeks to come, but it looks like it might be here next week. My question is - does this get any easier from a mental perspective? I'm finding that I'm thinking about money ALL of the time and it's exhausting.

I think some days are easier than others but I try to keep my eye on the prize. I know my goals will take years but that's ok. There are budget weeks my mind won't stop turning and thinking money. There are also budget weeks that are a breeze and I don't think twice about it. March was my 1 year mark for starting to attack my debt. I remember being obsessive over it for a while.

Since the beginning of this year i finically have hubby 99% on board. (He's my free spirit spender can't say no to a kid asking for a treat.) I worry and stress less about it but there are still times it gets to me just less than before. Just keep swimming!
 
Hi debt dumpers!

I have been looking over the YNAB software and we are going to do the free trial and see how we like it.
I had one question that you guys might be able to answer. My husband works away during the week. It would be helpful if we could both see the budgeting software and be on the same page while he is away. Can I see it on my phone and he on his ? Or on two laptops? Do you and your spouse or partner both use it, and how do you find that works?
Thank you for any answers you can provide. I am sure I could find the answer on the website but I thought it would be beneficial to ask people who are actually using it how it's working for them.:)
 
Yay, last CC is paid off! I had it paid off before my April Disney World trip, but then chose to pay for my hotel room with it. Now I have paid the hotel room off, too! I'm hoping to do the rest of the year on a cash basis. I think it has taken me about 4 years to pay off it off, so I don't want to run it up again! It feels good finally paying it off, so here is some encouragement for those in the process!!! :)

Also sharing a super cheapie saving tip from my April trip. I still shopped as much as usual on my Disney World trip, but I felt satisfied photographing my Finds, rather than having to buy them to bring home. As an older adult, this worked for me. I don't think it would work that well with children. I usually spend $100+ on Park souvenirs per trip, but this time spent only about $15 cash. I felt free to buy things, but with my alternative plan, I found out I could enjoy them by having only the photograph of how marvelous they are.

Congrats!
 
Just bumping and seeing how everyone is doing. Spring is such a busy time of year it seems. Hope you're all hanging in there.


It's a beautiful day and I'm in my lovely painting clothes, princess: ready to tackle our house painting project. I may not be checking in for a while but still counting down, only 4 more weeks until our next card is paid off. :woohoo:

yeah! Have fun painting!

I'm doing well.

good news is that I'm sticking to the budget. And our tax return is finally on it's way. We had to wait eight weeks before we could call to find out what the hold up was, and they said that they were concerned about identity theft (perhaps because my husband is a third?) and it could take another six weeks to come, but it looks like it might be here next week.

My question is - does this get any easier from a mental perspective? I'm finding that I'm thinking about money ALL of the time and it's exhausting.

It does get easier. I still stress about money, after working so hard on paying off debt, I don't think you will never NOT stress about debt. But it will be different. Not "how am i going to get out of this hole" but more like " I'm never going back to that again" and then you put the CC away.

Wow hoo! Paid off CC #2 today, only 2 to go! Did a debt snowball projection and it looks like we'll be CC free by November,but hopefully sooner. We've almost paid off our cruise that we're taking in September which wasn't accounted for in the snowball so it will probably be more like September. So excited! This has been a rocky 4 years since we took FPU with us both loosing jobs, me multiple times but we never added to our debt and now it feels so good to finally see some progress.

Great news!! Can wait to see that debt free post!

Yay, last CC is paid off! I had it paid off before my April Disney World trip, but then chose to pay for my hotel room with it. Now I have paid the hotel room off, too! I'm hoping to do the rest of the year on a cash basis. I think it has taken me about 4 years to pay off it off, so I don't want to run it up again! It feels good finally paying it off, so here is some encouragement for those in the process!!! :)

Also sharing a super cheapie saving tip from my April trip. I still shopped as much as usual on my Disney World trip, but I felt satisfied photographing my Finds, rather than having to buy them to bring home. As an older adult, this worked for me. I don't think it would work that well with children. I usually spend $100+ on Park souvenirs per trip, but this time spent only about $15 cash. I felt free to buy things, but with my alternative plan, I found out I could enjoy them by having only the photograph of how marvelous they are.

yippee!! last CC is awesome!
Hi debt dumpers!

I have been looking over the YNAB software and we are going to do the free trial and see how we like it.
I had one question that you guys might be able to answer. My husband works away during the week. It would be helpful if we could both see the budgeting software and be on the same page while he is away. Can I see it on my phone and he on his ? Or on two laptops? Do you and your spouse or partner both use it, and how do you find that works?
Thank you for any answers you can provide. I am sure I could find the answer on the website but I thought it would be beneficial to ask people who are actually using it how it's working for them.:)

I know there is an app that you both can download. I will hold the same information. I have no idea if you both can be signed in at the same time on two different devices though. I don't have it, but I'm sure someone else can help.

Great Job everyone!! Keep up the good work!
 
Hi Everyone!! I haven't been on in a few weeks - what a whirlwind they have been. I actually resigned from my job that I had worked at for 15 years. We had a new manager come in that was so bad to work for that my nerves were so bad I couldn't eat or sleep. I made the decision that I had to get out of there for my health and ended up taking a job with a huge pay cut, no benefits and seasonal. I kept asking myself what was I thinking - but I know that I will be able to survive. I will definitely be crunching pennies for sure, and there will be no vacations anywhere in the immediate future - but I feel so good right now. I do get a little freaked out when I think about what I did - but I think it was the right decision. Has anyone of you guys done this??

Everyone - you all seem to be doing a fantastic job :thumbsup2 I hope to be back on here a lot more often now that things are settling down.
 
Hi Everyone!! I haven't been on in a few weeks - what a whirlwind they have been. I actually resigned from my job that I had worked at for 15 years. We had a new manager come in that was so bad to work for that my nerves were so bad I couldn't eat or sleep. I made the decision that I had to get out of there for my health and ended up taking a job with a huge pay cut, no benefits and seasonal. I kept asking myself what was I thinking - but I know that I will be able to survive. I will definitely be crunching pennies for sure, and there will be no vacations anywhere in the immediate future - but I feel so good right now. I do get a little freaked out when I think about what I did - but I think it was the right decision. Has anyone of you guys done this??

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I sort of did the opposite. I went from a low stress, low paying job to a high stress job with a much better salary. I am NOT the type that can deal with high stress. I have no idea what I was thinking! It is definitely a struggle, but the extra $ comes in handy for debt repayment!!
 
Hi debt dumpers!

I have been looking over the YNAB software and we are going to do the free trial and see how we like it.
I had one question that you guys might be able to answer. My husband works away during the week. It would be helpful if we could both see the budgeting software and be on the same page while he is away. Can I see it on my phone and he on his ? Or on two laptops? Do you and your spouse or partner both use it, and how do you find that works?
Thank you for any answers you can provide. I am sure I could find the answer on the website but I thought it would be beneficial to ask people who are actually using it how it's working for them.:)

Yes, H and I both use it. We usually only open the actual desktop software together (a personal preference to only adjust the actual budget when we can make decisions together). We each have the app on our phone which we use to record transactions and check the budget before spending. It uses Dropbox to sync our phones with the desktop so that we are always looking at the same information.
 
Hi Everyone!! I haven't been on in a few weeks - what a whirlwind they have been. I actually resigned from my job that I had worked at for 15 years. We had a new manager come in that was so bad to work for that my nerves were so bad I couldn't eat or sleep. I made the decision that I had to get out of there for my health and ended up taking a job with a huge pay cut, no benefits and seasonal. I kept asking myself what was I thinking - but I know that I will be able to survive. I will definitely be crunching pennies for sure, and there will be no vacations anywhere in the immediate future - but I feel so good right now. I do get a little freaked out when I think about what I did - but I think it was the right decision. Has anyone of you guys done this??

Everyone - you all seem to be doing a fantastic job :thumbsup2 I hope to be back on here a lot more often now that things are settling down.

Yikes! I bet that was scary. But sometimes the extra money isn't worth it. I totally believe your sanity, health and happiness really play a huge part in getting debt free. Hope you can get another job with benefits without having to 'just survive' for too long.

Hugs.
 
Hi Everyone!! I haven't been on in a few weeks - what a whirlwind they have been. I actually resigned from my job that I had worked at for 15 years. We had a new manager come in that was so bad to work for that my nerves were so bad I couldn't eat or sleep. I made the decision that I had to get out of there for my health and ended up taking a job with a huge pay cut, no benefits and seasonal. I kept asking myself what was I thinking - but I know that I will be able to survive. I will definitely be crunching pennies for sure, and there will be no vacations anywhere in the immediate future - but I feel so good right now. I do get a little freaked out when I think about what I did - but I think it was the right decision. Has anyone of you guys done this??

Everyone - you all seem to be doing a fantastic job :thumbsup2 I hope to be back on here a lot more often now that things are settling down.

Good luck.
 
Thanks everyone. I am pretty confident I will be able to make it. Luckily I would only be without work for 4 months and I can pick up a job at a shopping mall or something that would definitely get me through January and only be out of work maybe 2 months. I am fortunate that all my debt is paid off (until Murphy hits) and even though things will be very tight, I am confident I can do this.
Just health wise it feels great!!!!
 
Hi Everyone!! I haven't been on in a few weeks - what a whirlwind they have been. I actually resigned from my job that I had worked at for 15 years. We had a new manager come in that was so bad to work for that my nerves were so bad I couldn't eat or sleep. I made the decision that I had to get out of there for my health and ended up taking a job with a huge pay cut, no benefits and seasonal. I kept asking myself what was I thinking - but I know that I will be able to survive. I will definitely be crunching pennies for sure, and there will be no vacations anywhere in the immediate future - but I feel so good right now. I do get a little freaked out when I think about what I did - but I think it was the right decision. Has anyone of you guys done this??

Everyone - you all seem to be doing a fantastic job :thumbsup2 I hope to be back on here a lot more often now that things are settling down.

The peace of mind is going to be huge for you. Something else will come up, I'm sure of it. Good luck! (I haven't done this but a former coworker just did and his stress levels have gone down so much).
 
The peace of mind is going to be huge for you. Something else will come up, I'm sure of it. Good luck! (I haven't done this but a former coworker just did and his stress levels have gone down so much).

My stress levels have went down so much it's amazing. The last week I was there before I made the decision, I actually lost 7lbs that week because I couldn't eat. My stomach was so sick and my hands did nothing but shake uncontrollably. My mom even told me if I didn't do something I was going to end up with a nervous breakdown or stomach ulcers, and no job is worth that. So I made the scary decision to leave, and trust me - every now and then I have a little panic attack about what I did - but I feel really good.
 
Yes, H and I both use it. We usually only open the actual desktop software together (a personal preference to only adjust the actual budget when we can make decisions together). We each have the app on our phone which we use to record transactions and check the budget before spending. It uses Dropbox to sync our phones with the desktop so that we are always looking at the same information.

Thank you! I have spent a great deal of time using the free trial yesterday and today. I can't believe the shift in my perspective already. When you see it all laid out in front of you it just looks different. I am really excited about this program. We have always taken a "wing it" approach for things like Christmas spending for example. But it's totally possible to fully fund an account so it won't be tight around the holidays.
Just a small example but I am feeling really empowered. It's not that things were bad.. I just felt like our finances were controlling us, and now I feel a hundred times more in control because I can allocate where everything is going. I love it so far.:)
 













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