Debbie Rowe wants "her" two kids with MJ

[Vallie]

poor poor kids

 

[Imzadi]

but I presume if the unthinkable happens, they will all be shocked. But of course, no one will be debating the pros and cons on CNN - lol.

No, but we will be debating it here in the DIS. You're a member. We would discuss it.

Let's all pray that Katherine enjoys many years of good health and leave it at that, lol.

I wonder if she's been suddenly & anonymously been being sent vitamins & health supplements in the mail, along with all the letters of condolences from MJ's fans.

 

[stahshee]

here is one to think about.. If MJ died from drugs he must not been an active dad. He was an addict. So what kind of parenting did the kids have from MJ?

 

[kafitty]

First - the money goes into a trust to be administered by what appears to be three unrelated people (who may or may not be honest.) She would have to prove that she is, in fact, the biological mother and probably come up with a pretty good reason as to why she terminated her parental rights (if, in fact, she did.) Once this hits the courts, some judge may appoint someone he/she feels would be an unbiased administrator of the trust.
Any judge with any common sense and compassion would NOT separate these three children. IMHO, Katherine Jackson is NOT a suitable guardian for these children. Michael Jackson, while tremendously talented, was certainly not a model of good mental health, stability, reason or normalcy; this came from somewhere, and where else did it start if not with his parents and upbringing. If he was abused by his father as is being claimed, why did his mother not stop it - and don't tell me she didn't know because that's just BS. The other issue is Ms. Jackson's age; these children don't need to be in an environment where their new caregiver abandons them through death. She is almost 80; and if she were to die before the kids reach majority, who gets them then? No one in this family seems competent. Diana Ross...puh-lease!
Michael Jackson should have had legal advisors who had every aspect of his death planned out - children, assets, debts, etc. Obviously, he did not. His death has been a bigger production than his life; it's pathetic.

 

[TheLittleRoo]

I am sure MJ's $$$ beat her down. In a divorce the spouse who has the largest income or their own money wins. The other person cannot fight them in court.

I would rather see her get all three kids than the Jackson family to get them.

From what I see Katherine is a nice women but she IS NOT divorced from the child beater Joe and as such should not get custody of the kids.

I agree ^^ When I read that she is contesting the will, my first reaction was "finally!" Granted, I don't follow MJ in the tabloids so I don't know all the past allegations or the he said/ she said about wanting original custody. But I can certainly believe that someone with as much money as Michael Jackson could intimidate a normal person into surrender with his cadre of lawyers looming behind him.

On the face of it, I would rather see all three kids go to Debbie Rowe (the bio mom of the older two? Irrelevant if she's listed on the birth cert...) than go to an 80 yr old who is separated from an abusive man. These kids are all under 12 right? Come on... she's not going to be in any capacity to chase after kids... she's just NOT.

 

[tinatark]

I read that, during their divorce, she WANTED her parental rights terminated - they were "Michael's kids"... the judge did that, but had to rescind the order because parental rights have to be terminated with basis other that what they used.

Those court documents will most certainly be used in any court proceedings she begins now.

http://www.cele*****y.com/57625/deb...custody_of_her_children_with_michael_jackson/

 

[Renesmee]

I don't care how money hungry Debbie Rowe is. I don't want another child living under the same roof as Joe Jackson.

 

[luvmy3]

Debbie Rowe has full legal rights to the children. She never signed away her rights. I believe it was a 'fine print' thing (added by Jackson's lawyers no doubt) in the divorce settlement. The CA courts overturned that and reinstated her rights many years ago.

We don't know what Debbie Rowe did or didn't do in regards to her children. Like a PP said, Jackson wasn't exactly a poster child for good mental health. He had very very powerful people in his corner and certainly had the means to mount a monster custody battle. He could have bankrupted her easily.

If we are going to give Jackson the benefit of the doubt, doesn't Debbie Rowe get at least a bit of it?
I'm not sure what is best for the kids. I'm leaning towards Katherine IF Joe stays away (he won't) and she is healthy. It is what Michael wanted.

But I'm not ready to completely rule out Debbie Rowe. She IS their mother and if she is willing to step up she may be the lesser of two evils.

That is an excellent point. It seems people are very quick to do that for an accused child molester but not for a mother who may or may not have given up her parental rights.

 

[rie'smom]

The poor kids-ugh-the Jacksons who managed to screw up at least some of their kids or their mom and possibly being separated from their little brother.

 

[Shmily1]

A little OT but why is the little one called Blanket?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Debbie Rowe should get custody of all three kids, and then get together with Larry Birkhead and Danilynne.

 

[alexandria674]

Doesn't Diana Ross get them if something happens to Jackson's mother?

 

[lizanne]

I certainly don't know enough about her to know why she wants custody but I can only hope that it's because she's their mother. Let's just hope that the courts make the right decision for the children.

I can't help but think that she gave up her rights for some reason never printed. I was thinking that maybe she wanted out of the marriage because his life was so strange and he threatened to fight her if she tried to get custody of the kids. He had too many resourses and she may have felt she couldn't fight him. Since he specifically left her nothing in the will it seems there was some anger there. He probably wanted the "happy family image" to say intact and she wanted out.

As far as Joe Jackson is concerned, I think I heard that he and his wife haven't lived together for about 10 years.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Since he specifically left her nothing in the will it seems there was some anger there.

Not necessarily. It's a legal move that's done on purpose, specifically mentioned so it's clear it wasn't omitted. That's all. We had to do the same thing in our wills.

 

[Belle0101]

A little OT but why is the little one called Blanket?

I can't find the exact quote but MJ had said it has to do with being comforting and loved. Sounds a little out there. If I run across the exact quote I'll post it.


ETA: From wiki, Michael claimed that a blanket is a blessing, and you should wrap your child with warmth and love like a blanket.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_Michael_Jackson_call_his_son_'Blanket'

 

[teacups]

How about the Jackson family takes 75% and DR takes the other 25% of the money.... and give those poor kids to me. I hate to see them tossed around like meat when what they need is a family to grow up with. I'd take those kids and give them a home in a heartbeat... no money needed. They'd fit right in with us. We homeschool too.

It takes a village to raise a child?
Not in this case, the whole village is trying to USE the kids
Michael picked his mom and I bet he had good reason...

 

[teacups]

you should wrap your child with warmth and love like a blanket.

QUOTE]

Sounds kinda cool to me.

 

[Belle0101]

you should wrap your child with warmth and love like a blanket.

QUOTE]

Sounds kinda cool to me.[/quote}

I should have been more clear ... the way I described it was making it sound kind of out there. I wasn't doing a good job of putting what MJ said into my own words.

I think the quote from Wiki is kinda cool too. I hope whoever the children end up with will wrap them with warmth and love. All children deserve that.


This is OT but my DS9 is still to this day a snuggler. That's one of the best things in my day.

 

[teacups]

you should wrap your child with warmth and love like a blanket.

QUOTE]

Sounds kinda cool to me.[/quote}

I should have been more clear ... the way I described it was making it sound kind of out there. I wasn't doing a good job of putting what MJ said into my own words.

I think the quote from Wiki is kinda cool too. I hope whoever the children end up with will wrap them with warmth and love. All children deserve that.


This is OT but my DS9 is still to this day a snuggler. That's one of the best things in my day.

Awww.... My 10 year old is as well. An you're right all kids deserve that. My own kids are why I'm so sick about these Jackson kids.
Gosh my kids would be totally heartbroken if they were (God forbid) in this situation. I just want someone to swoop in and save those three kids, like everyone else here wants, too.

 

[Belle0101]

Awww.... My 10 year old is as well. An you're right all kids deserve that. My own kids are why I'm so sick about these Jackson kids.
Gosh my kids would be totally heartbroken if they were (God forbid) in this situation. I just want someone to swoop in and save those three kids, like everyone else here wants, too.

I'm gonna spill some family secrets here - DH never knew his dad as he had passed before DH was born. So DH knows how it feels to not have a father. My bio. mom was around in the physical sense but not in the mother sense. So I know how it feels to not have a mom.

Of course we're grown-ups and we've adjusted but way down somewhere in yourself you always feel that loss and have that that what-if feeling.

Time will tell I suppose.