Debate: Giuliani for VP?

[Pyg Me]

Originally posted by EsmeraldaX
Um, Ronald Reagan was divorced and later remarried a woman he loved dearly. I don't think most republicans really bat an eye at divorce anymore. Most mature adults realize that sometimes arrangements between two people do not work out.

I have one gripe with Giuliani - he would not overturn archaic legislature which made the keeping of domestic pet ferrets illegal in NYC.

Domestic ferrets are essentially, long, slinky, housecats. They are no more wild animal than a labrador retriever or a kitten. The fact that lots of people in NYC rallied for this law to be overturned so that they could keep their beloved pets and he ignored it, makes me wonder how much he really researches issues before deciding on that. He could have spent 5 minutes looking at the ferrets association web sites and made the right choice but he didn't, and as someone who has had pet ferrets her whole life, I have a hard time forgiving him for not fixing it when he could have, very easily.

Maybe it seems like a small thing to some, but to me and lots of other pet owners, it was not. ANY clear thinking person who looked at the facts would see that ferrets are harmless domestic pets. He either looked at the facts and didn't "get it" or worse, didn't bother looking at the facts at all.

To me that plays into everything else he will make decisions on.

He DID handle the big situations well. But one has to look at the smaller issues as well.

I'd rather see him in office than Hillary though. Hillary scares me. Any woman who would stay with a man who treated her the way Bill Clinton treated her does not have my respect.

HE would not legalize ferrets? What a Weasel!!!!!!!!!!

Personally, the would be pretty low on my Vice President check list.

I'd personally love a Bush/Rice ticket.

 

[Lanshark]

I don't live in NYC so correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that Rudy was not that well liked until after 9-11. I know he was voted in but isn't his personality a little abrasive...

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

exactly, lanshark. before 9/11 he was a royal pain in the ...neck. I lived in the city during his administration. he did take care of the crime situation (score one for Rudy) but he was also pretty abrasive and impulsive, and had a lot of headaches with the unions. he got voted in because he was better than the alternative, not because the people of NYC loved him.

 

[sunni]

Originally posted by grinningghost
I was prepared to vote for him for Senate - but alas, he didn't run.

So far Hillary has done absolutely nothing for this state as far as I can tell. Schumer has accomplished quite a bit - that's a Democrat I can support wholeheartedly.

I have to agree, Schumer has surprised me. Hilary, on the other hand, doesn't belong in NY... Please, isn't there another state that wants her?

 

[sunni]

Originally posted by Pyg Me
I'd personally love a Bush/Rice ticket.

Ditto.

Or a Bush/Powell ticket, though I doubt we'd ever see that.

 

[Briar Rose 7457]

Hillary's record -- 107th congress and108th

Powell will never run for VP. Rice would be an interesting choice.

 

[Sirius]

Originally posted by sunni
Hilary, on the other hand, doesn't belong in NY... Please, isn't there another state that wants her?

I'd take her! I have serious issues with Bill Frist.

 

[Lisa F]

Originally posted by Briar Rose 7457
he got voted in because he was better than the alternative, not because the people of NYC loved him.

You can say that again. Just to give you an idea of what the climate was like when he was elected, my 87 year old grandmother who has not missed a single election since she was old enough to vote and who also had never voted anything but democrat voted republican for the first time in her life when Giuliani ran against Dinkins for his second term.

By the middle of his second term, but before 9/11, people had started to call Giuliani "Adolph" for many of his policies. He had a reputation for intimidating the local press into never saying a bad word about him so that the news probably told a slightly different story about what people in NYC thought of him than if you were to listen to the word on the street.

That said, his "my way or the highway" attidude is what made him a great leader in the time after 9/11. The city needed someone who could take charge and be a strong leader and he was wonderful. I am grateful that the city had a take charge kind of leader during such a difficult time and he made me proud to be a New Yorker. The job he did there has earned him some well deserved respect, but I agree with others who say that he is not really the man for the job as president for all of the reasons mentioned.

Oh and I just want to say that I love Chuck Schumer too! I grew up in his congressional district (and before that his state assemby district) and he was very much loved locally. I was pleased to hear that he had been elected senator (after I left NYS). Almost feels like a long lost relative is in the senate! Now that I'm back in NY I'll have to pay more attention to what he's doing.