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Golf4food

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Circuit City has all DLSRs over $499 no payments, no interest for 12 months (if paid in full by the end of those 12 months, as always) and the Canon 40D has a $200 rebate on it right now...

If only they hadn't jacked up the price to $1499 - $200 = $1299... still more than the $1129 at Amazon or many other locations. Boooooo to you, Circuit City. :teacher:
 
A "get thee behind me moment???"


Now the question I will ask.....if you go ahead and get it through Amazon (with no tax added as well!!!!) will you be able to pay the thing off before spending the extra $140 or so it will cost to go to Circuit City instead?

I just ordered this very camera tonight! I can't wait to get it!!!!

I am no help am I?????

Dawn
 
You don't need strength, all you need is good credit! Let's go *shopping*!!! Woohoo!
 
I think back to my pop teaching me to hunt... be patient... don't shoot the first deer you see... wait until you see the perfect deer.... the world is full of them if you just wait..... It also applies to DSLRs... only you aren't waiting for a bigger one, well maybe you are... but if you wait, they will get cheaper.... I need only dig into my closet to find the $1,500 camcorder that was top of the line 10 years ago and is now out performed by a $300 camcorder from Walmart.... I should have been patient.
 

It also applies to DSLRs... only you aren't waiting for a bigger one, well maybe you are... but if you wait, they will get cheaper.... I need only dig into my closet to find the $1,500 camcorder that was top of the line 10 years ago and is now out performed by a $300 camcorder from Walmart.... I should have been patient.

and last years camcorder is now outperformed by "prosumer" cameras such as the Canon S5 or Panasonic FZ18. I resisted the urge to spend big $$$ on dSLR lenses - I have super macro, ultraZoom telephoto, video, all in one camera under $300 !
 
Oh, and the extended warranty with Amazon is less than 1/2 the price of the extended warranty anywhere else!

:thumbsup2

Dawn
 
Circuit City has all DLSRs over $499 no payments, no interest for 12 months (if paid in full by the end of those 12 months, as always)

If you belong to AAA, you get another 7-8% off at Circuit City.

But be careful of the interest free offer. I did one back in the Spring when I bought the 40D, but because I also bought a video game for DS on the same purchase, I was charged interest for camera and game. After phone calls to Chase and got no satisfied responses, I just paid it off and sworn to not shop at CC again.
 
Circuit City has all DLSRs over $499 no payments, no interest for 12 months (if paid in full by the end of those 12 months, as always) and the Canon 40D has a $200 rebate on it right now...

If only they hadn't jacked up the price to $1499 - $200 = $1299... still more than the $1129 at Amazon or many other locations. Boooooo to you, Circuit City. :teacher:


That seems like a lousy deal to me. $1299 at CC with no interest for one year or $1129 at Amazon. That's a 15% price premium to avoid making payments or paying interest. Let's take two scenarios and compare them:

Person A has $1299 in the bank. They use $1129 to buy the camera, leaving them with $170 in the bank. They earn 10% after taxes on their money (a pretty optimistic assumption). At the end of the year, they have the camera and $187.

Person B also has $1299 in the bank. They buy the camera at CC. They keep their $1299 all year and earn 10% on their savings. At the end of the year, they pay $1299 to CC. Now, they also have the camera, but they only have the $129.90 that they earned in interest. In other words, they lost almost $60 compared to the person shopping at Amazon.

The only way the CC deal makes sense is if you are earning 15% or more on your money after taxes or if your cost of borrowing is over 15%. I know of no one who reliably earns 15% on their money. If you are paying 15% to borrow money, you need to forget about buying cameras and focus on getting better credit terms or paying off your debts. At 15% interest, even small debts will slowly crush you.

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The best financial advice I ever got was from a friend's dad about 30 years ago. He drew a graph comparing two hypothetical people. One person saved $100 every month. The other person borrowed $100 every month. The difference is only $200 every month, a significant, but not huge amount. Let's assume that the saver earns 7% interest and the borrow pays 7% interest.

After 1 year, the saver has saved $1,200 but with interest they now have $1,240. The borrower has spent an extra $1,200 but with interest they owe $1,240. After 10 years, the saver has saved $12,000 but with interest they have $17,300. The borrower has spent $12,000 but owes $17,300. After 40 years, the saver has saved a total of $48,000 but with interest they now have $262,000. The borrower is in the opposite situation. They have borrowed $48,000 and owe $262,000. So a $200 difference in spending each month has resulted in more than a $500,000 difference in net worth by the time the person retires.

Compound interest curves work for you or against you depending on whether you are a borrower or a saver. Almost everyone gets to choose which they are going to be. Choose carefully because small differences grow.
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Compound interest curves work for you or against you depending on whether you are a borrower or a saver. Almost everyone gets to choose which they are going to be. Choose carefully because small differences grow.
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My only points to add are:
1) There no better way to make a year pass REALLY fast than to make a large purchase on delayed interest. :)
2) I can't save $200, nor do I try to spend it. How does your friend feel about us "Net 0" people. :)
 
That seems like a lousy deal to me. $1299 at CC with no interest for one year or $1129 at Amazon. That's a 15% price premium to avoid making payments or paying interest. Let's take two scenarios and compare them:

Person A has $1299 in the bank. They use $1129 to buy the camera, leaving them with $170 in the bank. They earn 10% after taxes on their money (a pretty optimistic assumption). At the end of the year, they have the camera and $187.

Person B also has $1299 in the bank. They buy the camera at CC. They keep their $1299 all year and earn 10% on their savings. At the end of the year, they pay $1299 to CC. Now, they also have the camera, but they only have the $129.90 that they earned in interest. In other words, they lost almost $60 compared to the person shopping at Amazon.

The only way the CC deal makes sense is if you are earning 15% or more on your money after taxes or if your cost of borrowing is over 15%. I know of no one who reliably earns 15% on their money. If you are paying 15% to borrow money, you need to forget about buying cameras and focus on getting better credit terms or paying off your debts. At 15% interest, even small debts will slowly crush you.

[PREACH]
The best financial advice I ever got was from a friend's dad about 30 years ago. He drew a graph comparing two hypothetical people. One person saved $100 every month. The other person borrowed $100 every month. The difference is only $200 every month, a significant, but not huge amount. Let's assume that the saver earns 7% interest and the borrow pays 7% interest.

After 1 year, the saver has saved $1,200 but with interest they now have $1,240. The borrower has spent an extra $1,200 but with interest they owe $1,240. After 10 years, the saver has saved $12,000 but with interest they have $17,300. The borrower has spent $12,000 but owes $17,300. After 40 years, the saver has saved a total of $48,000 but with interest they now have $262,000. The borrower is in the opposite situation. They have borrowed $48,000 and owe $262,000. So a $200 difference in spending each month has resulted in more than a $500,000 difference in net worth by the time the person retires.

Compound interest curves work for you or against you depending on whether you are a borrower or a saver. Almost everyone gets to choose which they are going to be. Choose carefully because small differences grow.
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Oh, I know all that good stuff (I hold professional financial designations as part of my job). That doesn't take away the temptation though! ;) Still, a well laid out argument to remind me why I intended to wait until I could pay cash for one next year anyway.
 
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The best financial advice I ever got was from a friend's dad about 30 years ago. He drew a graph comparing two hypothetical people. One person saved $100 every month. The other person borrowed $100 every month. The difference is only $200 every month, a significant, but not huge amount. Let's assume that the saver earns 7% interest and the borrow pays 7% interest.

After 1 year, the saver has saved $1,200 but with interest they now have $1,240. The borrower has spent an extra $1,200 but with interest they owe $1,240. After 10 years, the saver has saved $12,000 but with interest they have $17,300. The borrower has spent $12,000 but owes $17,300. After 40 years, the saver has saved a total of $48,000 but with interest they now have $262,000. The borrower is in the opposite situation. They have borrowed $48,000 and owe $262,000. So a $200 difference in spending each month has resulted in more than a $500,000 difference in net worth by the time the person retires.

Compound interest curves work for you or against you depending on whether you are a borrower or a saver. Almost everyone gets to choose which they are going to be. Choose carefully because small differences grow.
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Then again... once you reach a certain point in life... the smart money might be to go nuts with the debt and die owing a few hundred thousand instead of leaving a few hundred thousand for those left behind to fight over... My dream is to leave this world behind and have a room full of bankers trying to figure out how to get dollars from a dead man.
 
Then again... once you reach a certain point in life... the smart money might be to go nuts with the debt and die owing a few hundred thousand instead of leaving a few hundred thousand for those left behind to fight over... My dream is to leave this world behind and have a room full of bankers trying to figure out how to get dollars from a dead man.

Preach it brother!!:rotfl2:
 
We aren't quite at Net 0 yet, but we only owe on our house, everything else is paid off and we buy only in cash!

That is one reason we agonize over money decisons! We don't want to get them wrong.

Dawn

My only points to add are:
1) There no better way to make a year pass REALLY fast than to make a large purchase on delayed interest. :)
2) I can't save $200, nor do I try to spend it. How does your friend feel about us "Net 0" people. :)
 
Circuit City has all DLSRs over $499 no payments, no interest for 12 months (if paid in full by the end of those 12 months, as always) and the Canon 40D has a $200 rebate on it right now...

If only they hadn't jacked up the price to $1499 - $200 = $1299... still more than the $1129 at Amazon or many other locations. Boooooo to you, Circuit City. :teacher:

Yes, Circuit City has inflated prices on cameras. I purchased my Pentax K200D from Beachcamera and I am very happy with the purchase and camera.
 
My only points to add are:
1) There no better way to make a year pass REALLY fast than to make a large purchase on delayed interest. :)
2) I can't save $200, nor do I try to spend it. How does your friend feel about us "Net 0" people. :)

I can't say how he feels about "Net 0" people as he passed away about 10 years ago.

As for me, I think that most "Net 0" people are going into a more hidden form of "debt." Most of us look forward to a day when we will be financially independent and no longer need to work - retirement. It's hard to do that without saving some money. In the US, social security helps and is sort of a form of savings. Still, a social security only income isn't enough for new digital cameras and trips to Disney World. For that, you either need a pension (increasingly rare) or some form of savings.

So if you plan to retire and you aren't either building a pension or saving money, you are sort of spending the money that your future self will need.
 
We don't do that.....we used to owe on student loans, use credit cards and not always pay them off, and a car loan (at least one.) No longer!!!!

Pay only in cash, and only after all retirement accounts are funded fully.

We aren't even banking at all on SS as we are afraid it won't even be around when we are ready to retire, and my teacher pension plan didn't even have me pay into it......DH's work does have him pay into it, but they also do a matching 401K and we make sure we put in the max matching and then some.

Dawn




I can't say how he feels about "Net 0" people as he passed away about 10 years ago.

As for me, I think that most "Net 0" people are going into a more hidden form of "debt." Most of us look forward to a day when we will be financially independent and no longer need to work - retirement. It's hard to do that without saving some money. In the US, social security helps and is sort of a form of savings. Still, a social security only income isn't enough for new digital cameras and trips to Disney World. For that, you either need a pension (increasingly rare) or some form of savings.

So if you plan to retire and you aren't either building a pension or saving money, you are sort of spending the money that your future self will need.
 















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