Dealing With a Daughter's Breakup - WWYD?

I didn't read all replies but... my son and his exgf dated 3 years (again they are only 20) and they broke up. I still have her on my fb and her family. She asked they we remain friends and my son is fine with that. Hopefully they will find their way back to each other, but if not she is still very important to me. And yes, they were committed to each other, but she felt she needed some space.
 
DVCLiz, I just have to pop on due to the turn of this thread and say I think you're handling it well. It is perfectly natural to mourn the loss of a relationship and also to be a little mad at the other person. Your dd is certainly feeling those things and it's natural you would too.

I agree with you that you are doing the right thing. You aren't cutting ties, you're being friendly. It's not like you two are best friends, you're just remaining cordial. What happened is between your kids and there's no reason to suddenly cut off contact. I'm sure contact will lesson naturally and everyone will move on. I'd leave her on my friend list, be careful to protect my dd's privacy, and gradually move on. IMO, that's very healthy and natural.

Thanks so much!

I think you handled it fine in the end with your update. I agree with others that your children's relationships should not have much to do with yours (either in the first place or now)--so if you were friends it is fine to maintain that. Do be careful in what you say not only about your daughter but about her son. The term you used for him here is pretty harsh and uncalled for and i hope the mother never sees you using such a term about her son (it doesn't sound like he was caught with another girl or dumped your DD over the phone 5 minutes before her big final or some other really bone headed move-so I really do not understand the type of reaction that is indicating coming from you).


I agree. When you have moved from feeling sorry for your DD to feeling that the ex is a "d bag" for having felt differently than she did about the relationship you have gone into the overly vested territory for sure. I also think talking about future grandchildren before the couple is even engaged--much less married is far too invested. DH and I started dating at 18. We were engaged at 22 and married at 23. Had our parents been talking about grandchildren that would have really bothered me--and truthfully might have scared DH away (and yet we had a honeymoon baby--WE could talk about it to each other and be fine with it, but for other people to put that kind of assumption on us would have been too much).


Agreed:thumbsup2

I won't go into the details but there WAS a "bone headed move" involved, making the situation harder for her to understand and harder to recover from. If they had mutually decided to go their separate ways I would feel much differently, of course.

As far as the grandchildren comment, I did put that (!) after to show I was being a little facetious - guess that was too subtle for most posters. The mom and I had never discussed that - but the couple had, at least with each other and cetainly my daughter had shared some of that with me.

It's interesting to me - on other threads about young adults (do they pay rent while living at home, how much do you help out your young adult, etc.) so many posters say "I was married at 18" etc. It made me think almost everyone had settled in their adult relationship at 18 or 20 and that it wouldn't be unheard of for a couple who had dated four years and planned to get married to be discussing their future, planning for their eventual children, etc. I guess those posters are doing something else this weekend!!

Anyway, all is well and everyone is moving on. Thanks for the support from those who gave it and thanks for the negative commetns from the usual suspects so I can continue to ignore them.;)
 
What negative comments????????

Several posters raised a valid issues....
I haven't seen any negative comments.

Don't you just love it when people actually ASK for thoughts and opinions.. and they really only want a big pat on the back...

When anyone says anything that might be anything other than total agreement, then they personally blast the other poster(s) and make a grand exit.
Anything else, and they will throw out negative names and claim to 'ignore'.

But, like we have said, it will work itself out.
 
What negative comments????????

Several posters raised a valid issues....
I haven't seen any negative comments.

Don't you just love it when people actually ASK for thoughts and opinions.. and they really only want a big pat on the back...

When anyone says anything that might be anything other than total agreement, then they personally blast the other poster(s) and make a grand exit.

But, like we have said, it will work itself out.

I haven't made a grand exit or personally blasted other posters any more than you have made negative comments, WOAS. Let's just move on - you've given your opinions so no need to continue.
 

How do you know she was referring to you Wishing?

Anyway OP, I kind of think that your cordial relationship with the young man's family will slowly die a natural death over time. I remained close, for a period of time, with the family of the young man I referred to in my previous post, but with time and changes in circumstances the relationships sort of slowly and naturally fizzled out. I met my DH, started becoming involved with his family, realized that the commonalities I had with my ex's family were all based upon being involved with him, so once we were no longer involved, we had very little in common. It sort of slowly fizzled away which was fine. Everyone we meet during our lives does not have to stay in our lives forever.

Anyway, glad your DD is hanging in there...this can turn ot to be a really fun time in her life!

And you know, I do understand what you mean about posters here on the DIS...so many of them got married at 18 and 20 years old. I was almost 30 when I got married so I am in the minority here I think. But when I think about some of the boys I was dating at 18 & 20....well, let's just say I wouldn't want ot be married to any of them now! :scared1: Nice kids, but IMHO it's hard to decide upon a life partner when you yourself have barely "lived" life. I'm always glad when it works for folks who marry early, but I know many more people who married at 18-20 years old who are divorced at 30.
 
Thanks so much!



I won't go into the details but there WAS a "bone headed move" involved, making the situation harder for her to understand and harder to recover from. If they had mutually decided to go their separate ways I would feel much differently, of course.

As far as the grandchildren comment, I did put that (!) after to show I was being a little facetious - guess that was too subtle for most posters. The mom and I had never discussed that - but the couple had, at least with each other and cetainly my daughter had shared some of that with me.

It's interesting to me - on other threads about young adults (do they pay rent while living at home, how much do you help out your young adult, etc.) so many posters say "I was married at 18" etc. It made me think almost everyone had settled in their adult relationship at 18 or 20 and that it wouldn't be unheard of for a couple who had dated four years and planned to get married to be discussing their future, planning for their eventual children, etc. I guess those posters are doing something else this weekend!!


Anyway, all is well and everyone is moving on. Thanks for the support from those who gave it and thanks for the negative commetns from the usual suspects so I can continue to ignore them.;)

Didn't I say, right in the post you quoted, that I was dating my future husband at 18 and we were married at 23? Yes, OUR future lives were pretty much settled by then--in our minds and between us. Had our parents decided to count on that before we did anything official (and you do not even mention them being engaged), even to the point of turning family holidays into joint affairs, it would have felt very much like they were over involving themselves in our lives and pressuring us to be sure of ourselves before we really were.
Anyway, I did not get that the "future grandbabies" thing was just sillyness and not you having ever actually mentioned it with the boy's mother--sorry for missing the joke there.

I am sorry if you dislike my opinion or feel it is overly negative in some way. I was simply giving my perspective since you asked for advice. Anyway, it seems like you have the current situation figured out. For what it is worth, I personally do think staying out of any future relationship a bit more might be a good idea (like not having formal get togethers with a new boyfriend's family until and unless there is actual wedding planning happening). It will probably save everyone a lot of trouble if you do (maybe that will be easier now that your daughter is grown up and, presumably, out of the house:goodvibes)
 
. Thanks for the support from those who gave it and thanks for the negative commetns from the usual suspects so I can continue to ignore them.;)


What are you talking about? What negative comments? There were some differing opinions, but certainly no negativity (other than things you projected a non-existent aura of "snippy" onto). Your post specifically asked "WWYD". Did you not really want to know?
 
Didn't I say, right in the post you quoted, that I was dating my future husband at 18 and we were married at 23? Yes, OUR future lives were pretty much settled by then--in our minds and between us. Had our parents decided to count on that before we did anything official (and you do not even mention them being engaged), even to the point of turning family holidays into joint affairs, it would have felt very much like they were over involving themselves in our lives and pressuring us to be sure of ourselves before we really were.
Anyway, I did not get that the "future grandbabies" thing was just sillyness and not you having ever actually mentioned it with the boy's mother--sorry for missing the joke there.

I am sorry if you dislike my opinion or feel it is overly negative in some way. I was simply giving my perspective since you asked for advice. Anyway, it seems like you have the current situation figured out. For what it is worth, I personally do think staying out of any future relationship a bit more might be a good idea (like not having formal get togethers with a new boyfriend's family until and unless there is actual wedding planning happening). It will probably save everyone a lot of trouble if you do (maybe that will be easier now that your daughter is grown up and, presumably, out of the house:goodvibes)

Thanks and I really do appreciate your comments.

We had a history of "get togethers" - his family first invited us to visit them and see a concert at Christmas the second year they were dating. We stayed overnight one night at their hosue and exchanged Christmas gifts at their invitation. By "we" I mean my two daughters and me - I am divorced so we are a family of three. The next year we - my family of three - visited a nearby resort destination for a Christmas weekend and invited the boyfriend to go with us. We stopped by his house and picked him up, staying to exchange Christmas gifts and visit for a meal.

The boyfriend's mom did the first round of inviting and Christmas gift-giving. I would much rather not have gone down that road but it wasn't appropriate to turn it all down, either. It's a gray, sticky area!!

Last year my daughter had a formal dance and her boyfriend was her escort, so my daughter and her boyfriend decided it would be fun for the families to celebrate Thanskgiving together, attend the dance, etc. I also had my ex-husband, his wife, her daughter and her parents at Thanksgiving. Wow - now that that is over I can't believe I survived it!!

Looking back, I really didn't instigate any of the get-togethers - it was either the mom or my daughter and her boyfriend making plans and asking if we could do them.

Anyway, lesson learned - and I do appreciate your perspective.
 
What are you talking about? What negative comments? There were some differing opinions, but certainly no negativity (other than things you projected a non-existent aura of "snippy" onto). Your post specifically asked "WWYD". Did you not really want to know?

Really, Jennasis, just because you don't feel that there is anything snippy in this thread doesn't mean I'm not allowed to. Other posters have referred to it as well so clearly I'm not the only one who felt a couple of posters were snippy. I'm sorry you don't agree but I don't have to agree with every poster or feel that everyone has a valid opinion.

If I ask you "What would you do?" I expect to hear "I would..." not "Here's where you did something wrong." I wasn't looking to get bashed for my reaction - I was just wondering whether other people would unfriend the mom on FaceBook. Really, that was the only question I asked in my originial post.
 
Hey, it's a first time break up for you too! It is an awkard situation, especially when you were fond of the boy, and knew his family socially. :hug: It will all work out. The friendship with his mom will wither on it's own.
In my case..I don't have a FB page ( :scared1:I know unheard of these days!) so luckily that wasn't an issue.


(:ssst: oh, and I'm one of those married at 18 for some 34 years now..:laughing:, although admitidily, I don't post that often on the community board.)

I will tell you that no matter how old your kids get..when they hurt, you hurt.:hug:
 
Thanks and I really do appreciate your comments.

We had a history of "get togethers" - his family first invited us to visit them and see a concert at Christmas the second year they were dating. We stayed overnight one night at their hosue and exchanged Christmas gifts at their invitation. By "we" I mean my two daughters and me - I am divorced so we are a family of three. The next year we - my family of three - visited a nearby resort destination for a Christmas weekend and invited the boyfriend to go with us. We stopped by his house and picked him up, staying to exchange Christmas gifts and visit for a meal.

The boyfriend's mom did the first round of inviting and Christmas gift-giving. I would much rather not have gone down that road but it wasn't appropriate to turn it all down, either. It's a gray, sticky area!!

Last year my daughter had a formal dance and her boyfriend was her escort, so my daughter and her boyfriend decided it would be fun for the families to celebrate Thanskgiving together, attend the dance, etc. I also had my ex-husband, his wife, her daughter and her parents at Thanksgiving. Wow - now that that is over I can't believe I survived it!!

Looking back, I really didn't instigate any of the get-togethers - it was either the mom or my daughter and her boyfriend making plans and asking if we could do them.

Anyway, lesson learned - and I do appreciate your perspective.

It sounds like the mom has been a bit overzealous from the get go. Hopefully you will not run into that ever again. If you ever do, just say thanks but we have other holiday plans, or thanks but I try not to get too involve with her social life and leave it at that. I don't think there is anything wrong with having the boyfriend over (if your daughter wants) or letting her spend holidays at his place--but getting the families together seems to cross into a higher pressure situation for the kids where THEY are no longer in control of the relationships (because then they feel like if they break ti off they are hurting their parents and their relations too, etc). Anyway, I am glad you were not upset by my comments, as that was not my intention at all.
 
Hey, it's a first time break up for you too! It is an awkard situation, especially when you were fond of the boy, and knew his family socially. :hug: It will all work out. The friendship with his mom will wither on it's own.
In my case..I don't have a FB page ( :scared1:I know unheard of these days!) so luckily that wasn't an issue.


(:ssst: oh, and I'm one of those married at 18 for some 34 years now..:laughing:, although admitidily, I don't post that often on the community board.)

I will tell you that no matter how old your kids get..when they hurt, you hurt.:hug:

Thanks!! So true about hurting when they hurt.

Also true, however, that time heals all wounds and as life altering changes go, this one will turn out not to have been too significant.
 
It sounds like the mom has been a bit overzealous from the get go. Hopefully you will not run into that ever again. If you ever do, just say thanks but we have other holiday plans, or thanks but I try not to get too involve with her social life and leave it at that. I don't think there is anything wrong with having the boyfriend over (if your daughter wants) or letting her spend holidays at his place--but getting the families together seems to cross into a higher pressure situation for the kids where THEY are no longer in control of the relationships (because then they feel like if they break ti off they are hurting their parents and their relations too, etc). Anyway, I am glad you were not upset by my comments, as that was not my intention at all.

Thanks - I think your assessment is totally accurate, now that I think about it.
 
Really, Jennasis, just because you don't feel that there is anything snippy in this thread doesn't mean I'm not allowed to. Other posters have referred to it as well so clearly I'm not the only one who felt a couple of posters were snippy. I'm sorry you don't agree but I don't have to agree with every poster or feel that everyone has a valid opinion.

If I ask you "What would you do?" I expect to hear "I would..." not "Here's where you did something wrong." I wasn't looking to get bashed for my reaction - I was just wondering whether other people would unfriend the mom on FaceBook. Really, that was the only question I asked in my originial post.

1. WHERE??? Show me where other posters were negative or snippy or where others agreed that people were negative or snippy with you.

2. You absolutely are allowed to feel however you want about things people say (even when their intent wasn't to make you feel bad or to be snippy or negative), but you have ZERO control over who responds to your posts and how they respond. You are not new around the DIS, you know how it works here.

That all said, I'm glad you are feeling better about the situation. I know it must hurt a parent to see their child hurting. :thumbsup2
 
Thanks - I think your assessment is totally accurate, now that I think about it.
:thumbsup2

PS: Just to throw this out there.... I don't see how hosting the boyfriends family, at your home, over a family holiday is "the other mother initiating..." Full responsibility needs to be acknowledged here.
 
1. WHERE??? Show me where other posters were negative or snippy or where others agreed that people were negative or snippy with you.

That all said, I'm glad you are feeling better about the situation. I know it must hurt a parent to see their child hurting. :thumbsup2

That's exactly what I was thinking!

I don't really want the OP to answer, though....
I think it's about time to let this go....
 
:thumbsup2

PS: Just to throw this out there.... I don't see how hosting the boyfriends family, at your home, over a family holiday is "the other mother initiating..." Full responsibility needs to be acknowledged here.

Actually, my daughter came to me and said, "Boyfriend's mom thinks it would be nice to have Thanksgiving together - what do you think about having them here?" Not that I was against the invitation - it was perfeectly fine under the circumstances. But having a houseful of company is never my intention - I had hoped they would stay at a hotel but they wanted to be here (I am sure partly to save moeny) so that's what I offered. Also, they had had us as houseguests so I felt it was inappropriate to say "Sure you can come but only if you stay in a hotel."

Anyway, WOAS, what's with the "Full Responsibility Needs To Be Taken Hhere" attitude? Clearly you have more of an ax to grind with me but it still feels snippy to me. I'm not sure why you need to keep on here but I am fully aware of WWYD and also the ways in which you think I was wrong so really there's no need to keep re-visiting the issue.
 
I agree with Auntie above.

The OP seemed to present this like it is either one of two extremes... either, "Your lame son..." or "We are BFF no matter what".

And, I don't think it is a good idea for parents to be so overly vested in their child's relationships.

ITA. At 22, these two people are only beginning to know who they are. Give them time to do so.

And, for those who reminded that it's better the EXBF broke up now instead of after a marriage, I say "Amen."

BTW, my comments about "investment" are aimed more at the EXBF's mom, I think. She seems as if she pushed the relationship between the BF and daughter and the one with the OP.
 
Thanks - I think your assessment is totally accurate, now that I think about it.

It sounds like his mom saw just who she wanted in a daughter in law when she met your daughter and tried too hard to force things to be that way;)
The poor boy (I can say that k=not knowing the bone headed move and not knowing how pushed into things he felt from mom:rotfl:) probably felt doubly terrible about breaking things off and put it off too long because he was breaking not only your daughter's heart but also his mom's.
 
Actually, my daughter came to me and said, "Boyfriend's mom thinks it would be nice to have Thanksgiving together - what do you think about having them here?" Not that I was against the invitation - it was perfeectly fine under the circumstances. But having a houseful of company is never my intention - I had hoped they would stay at a hotel but they wanted to be here (I am sure partly to save moeny) so that's what I offered. Also, they had had us as houseguests so I felt it was inappropriate to say "Sure you can come but only if you stay in a hotel."

Anyway, WOAS, what's with the "Full Responsibility Needs To Be Taken Hhere" attitude? Clearly you have more of an ax to grind with me but it still feels snippy to me. I'm not sure why you need to keep on here but I am fully aware of WWYD and also the ways in which you think I was wrong so really there's no need to keep re-visiting the issue.
To me, it sounds like you're handling this just right. There's no reason to burn any bridges on your end and if you like the Mom as a person, I see no reason to suddenly cut her off. Friendships develop in the weirdest of ways sometimes.
 


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