DD was sent to the hospital from school via ambulance without our knowledge

[MELSMICE]

I keep getting this attitude from the OP that "oh-she;s passed out before , no big deal"(???)
Sorry-the fact that your DD keeps passing out, in my opinion, is NOT normal and I would definitely BE panicked!


Has she, since this incident< gone through some sort of testing to determine WHY she keeps passing out???

Yes...........it's been determined that she has low blood sugar, but not hypoglycemic. She will see her primary again on Tuesday & will probably go through more testing.

One of the time she passed out I posted a thread on here asking questions because the Dr. determined low blood sugar & it just felt like a cop out to me. Many posters responded said it is not uncommon for teens to pass out & some cited incidents of that happening to themselves or their own children. (it happened to my sister all through high school).

Being panicked or not panicked does not mean I care more or care less about my DD.

 

[Hazzard101]

Wow, how did I try to rip things apart? I misunderstood your timing and was just really floored that it could take that long, considering how things are where I live. It was a comment about how panicked I would be if it took that long. Jeez......

It seemed like you were calling me on my time of the ambulance. And my OP was done walking on egg shells to avoid any conflict because quite frankly I am a little hesitant to post in fear of being flamed. I am sorry if I misunderstood your post it just seemed that out of all the info I put out there someone wanted to call me on a little part of my post that wasn't even wrong. No hard feelings?

To the OP, I think you had a legitimate concern and when it comes to your children you seem very concerned about their well being. I can appreciate that you have brought this out for conversation and I don't understand why people need to question your parenting skills or need for control.

You stated in your post that you would just have liked a call first, completely understandable and you even looked back to see the times of the phone calls and admitted that there was only a few min between the incident and your conversation with the nurse. You have been very clear that you are not upset about the care of your daughter and the fact that you haven't gone to the school and started cussing out the nurse and threatening a lawsuit tells me that you were just venting looking for other opinions on the situation.

That what makes this site so nice. You can get feedback from a lot of people and this gives use an outlet to share our thoughts about the everyday things that happen to us.

Don't let any posters get to you, and I hope you understood my post was not meant to flame, it was genuinely put out there for a different perspective.
Can't we all just get along?

 

[Hazzard101]

I keep getting this attitude from the OP that "oh-she;s passed out before , no big deal"(???)
Sorry-the fact that your DD keeps passing out, in my opinion, is NOT normal and I would definitely BE panicked!


Has she, since this incident< gone through some sort of testing to determine WHY she keeps passing out???

Have you read the entire thread? She has stated her daughter has an appointment with her GP and on the day in question the Hospital did an EKG and tested her blood level and I guarantee they had her on a heart monitor most of the time. She seems to be taking good care of her daughter and as a parent that has successfully raised one 20 year old and two to 17 she probably knows when to panic and when not to. There are many reasons for teen girls to faint and it seems they have ruled out the big ones.

Please people, lets not judge people without knowing them?

 

[torinsmom]

It seemed like you were calling me on my time of the ambulance. And my OP was done walking on egg shells to avoid any conflict because quite frankly I am a little hesitant to post in fear of being flamed. I am sorry if I misunderstood your post it just seemed that out of all the info I put out there someone wanted to call me on a little part of my post that wasn't even wrong. No hard feelings?

No, no hard feelings. I'm sorry I read your times wrong; there were a lot of numbers and I only teach kindergarten I see you are pretty new here and I know how it can feel like people are out to get you. I'm definitely not one of those people, but I have been the victim of some at times her on the Dis.

OP--this thread has gone a little bit overboard. I am glad your DD is okay and sorry you had to go through that.

Marsha

 

[MELSMICE]

To the OP, I think you had a legitimate concern and when it comes to your children you seem very concerned about their well being. I can appreciate that you have brought this out for conversation and I don't understand why people need to question your parenting skills or need for control.

You stated in your post that you would just have liked a call first, completely understandable and you even looked back to see the times of the phone calls and admitted that there was only a few min between the incident and your conversation with the nurse. You have been very clear that you are not upset about the care of your daughter and the fact that you haven't gone to the school and started cussing out the nurse and threatening a lawsuit tells me that you were just venting looking for other opinions on the situation.

That what makes this site so nice. You can get feedback from a lot of people and this gives use an outlet to share our thoughts about the everyday things that happen to us.

Don't let any posters get to you, and I hope you understood my post was not meant to flame, it was genuinely put out there for a different perspective.
Can't we all just get along?

I definitely understood that our post was not meant to flame, only to add some insight & a different perspective on the situation.

 

[npmommie]

Yes...........it's been determined that she has low blood sugar, but not hypoglycemic. She will see her primary again on Tuesday & will probably go through more testing.

One of the time she passed out I posted a thread on here asking questions because the Dr. determined low blood sugar & it just felt like a cop out to me. Many posters responded said it is not uncommon for teens to pass out & some cited incidents of that happening to themselves or their own children. (it happened to my sister all through high school).

Being panicked or not panicked does not mean I care more or care less about my DD.

Low blood sugar is hypoglycemia.
for her blood sugar to drop so low to cause fainting can be cause for concern.
Have they ruled out anything underlying causing her hypoglycemia?

I would also assume she has had a Neuro workup as well?

I am glad everything turned out ok.

 

[shortbun]

I'm glad they are getting to the bottom of what's causing her to pass out. When I was her age, I had low blood sugar and low blood pressure which would drop even lower when I got overheated or had caffeine(coke or too much tea). I'd faint/pass out on occassion. Now that I'm old and fat my blood pressure is normal and I've become a diabetic. My doc says people who had low blood sugar as teens are more likely to become typeII diabetics. Anyhoo, I hope she's feeling better soon.

I guess I'd be ok with them sending my DS to the ER if I was not around. I've signed cards for school allowing it and even designating which ER's I'd like them to use in our absence.

 

[intheworks]

Yes...........it's been determined that she has low blood sugar, but not hypoglycemic. She will see her primary again on Tuesday & will probably go through more testing.

One of the time she passed out I posted a thread on here asking questions because the Dr. determined low blood sugar & it just felt like a cop out to me. Many posters responded said it is not uncommon for teens to pass out & some cited incidents of that happening to themselves or their own children. (it happened to my sister all through high school).

Being panicked or not panicked does not mean I care more or care less about my DD.

If your DD is passing out from low blood sugar, she would have to be given something sugary to bring it back up before she felt better. If this is not the case, it is NOT her blood sugar. Google vasovagal syncope and see if this fits your daughter's symptoms. I had this during my high school and teen years and eventually outgrew it. If you think this might be what she has, request her doctor order a tilt table test.

 

[dispor]

I think the biggest issue is the outdated forms and the fact that the OP may have forgotten to include the daughter's fainting episodes on the form.

However, I can see how a nurse who is actually there when the sister made contact with the Aunt would consider that "notification," at least for the time being. (We will never know if the school would have made contact with the parents. Only that they didn't do it within 45 minutes of the event.) I agree with a pp that said (essentially) that the "common sense" approach was to ask the almost-adult sister "who would be the best person to contact" (with parents out of town and grandparents that have moved, etc.). And thinking back on it now, maybe the nurse figured that - at that point in time - the parents had enough going on (staying in contact with family and the hospital) that they didn't need the school nurse calling them right then - when she didn't have any additional information that would help them or their daughter.

I did get the feeling that the OP was also annoyed that her other dd was allowed to leave school (something to the effect that she wasn't signed out by a guardian.). Sorry, if you feel she is responsible enough for you to go out of state (and I think she probably is), then is it really a problem that she was allowed to leave school without being signed out?

Also, as far as calling your sister and THEN deciding to call an ambulance... The nurse might not have had all the facts when she first called your sister. She may have found out - after the call - that your dd had fallen without anyone seeing if she had hit her head or not. Just a thought.

OP, you have been more than polite and open-minded about everyone's opinions!

BTW, since you are going to be talking to dd's doctors soon, you might want to make sure she has been tested for Prolonged QT. We recently had a scare with my daughter regarding this (turned out okay, thank goodness!) It does NOT always show up on an EKG.

Also, had your daughter taken any medications recently? There are medications which can prolong QT also. Also, the cardiologist we took our daughter to also suggested that we NOT limit her salt intake. He said that he sees many people faint when they have extremely low-sodium diets. (I know - weird.)

All that said, there ARE people who just faint a lot. In a girl, it can also be a result of hormone levels. Has she/you ever noticed a pattern regarding her cycle?

Not trying to second-guess your own doctor - just wanted to relay some of the information we have come across with our daughter.

A pp spoke of the tilt-table test. My husband had this done years ago. He was the only person his cardiologist had actually ever had pass out during the test! He has neuro cardio dysfunction.

Good luck, and I hope your daughter's tests come back fine!

 

[MELSMICE]

If your DD is passing out from low blood sugar, she would have to be given something sugary to bring it back up before she felt better. If this is not the case, it is NOT her blood sugar. Google vasovagal syncope and see if this fits your daughter's symptoms. I had this during my high school and teen years and eventually outgrew it. If you think this might be what she has, request her doctor order a tilt table test.

I will definitely Google this & read the information when I get a chance later today.

I think the biggest issue is the outdated forms and the fact that the OP may have forgotten to include the daughter's fainting episodes on the form.

However, I can see how a nurse who is actually there when the sister made contact with the Aunt would consider that "notification," at least for the time being. (We will never know if the school would have made contact with the parents. Only that they didn't do it within 45 minutes of the event.) I agree with a pp that said (essentially) that the "common sense" approach was to ask the almost-adult sister "who would be the best person to contact" (with parents out of town and grandparents that have moved, etc.). And thinking back on it now, maybe the nurse figured that - at that point in time - the parents had enough going on (staying in contact with family and the hospital) that they didn't need the school nurse calling them right then - when she didn't have any additional information that would help them or their daughter.

I did get the feeling that the OP was also annoyed that her other dd was allowed to leave school (something to the effect that she wasn't signed out by a guardian.). Sorry, if you feel she is responsible enough for you to go out of state (and I think she probably is), then is it really a problem that she was allowed to leave school without being signed out?

Also, as far as calling your sister and THEN deciding to call an ambulance... The nurse might not have had all the facts when she first called your sister. She may have found out - after the call - that your dd had fallen without anyone seeing if she had hit her head or not. Just a thought.

OP, you have been more than polite and open-minded about everyone's opinions!

BTW, since you are going to be talking to dd's doctors soon, you might want to make sure she has been tested for Prolonged QT. We recently had a scare with my daughter regarding this (turned out okay, thank goodness!) It does NOT always show up on an EKG.

Also, had your daughter taken any medications recently? There are medications which can prolong QT also. Also, the cardiologist we took our daughter to also suggested that we NOT limit her salt intake. He said that he sees many people faint when they have extremely low-sodium diets. (I know - weird.)

All that said, there ARE people who just faint a lot. In a girl, it can also be a result of hormone levels. Has she/you ever noticed a pattern regarding her cycle?

Not trying to second-guess your own doctor - just wanted to relay some of the information we have come across with our daughter.

A pp spoke of the tilt-table test. My husband had this done years ago. He was the only person his cardiologist had actually ever had pass out during the test! He has neuro cardio dysfunction.

Good luck, and I hope your daughter's tests come back fine!

I wasn't annoyed that she was let out of school without being signed out - but I was surprised. Because they are so adamant about security measures I just assumed that her grandfather would have to sign her out. At 17, she's old enough to sign herself out of school, but I also understand the school's policies.

A question............what is Prolonged QT?

 

[dispor]

A question............what is Prolonged QT?

I am no expert, but the way I understand it - the QT is the distance between two points of those waves you see on an EKG. (Between point Q and point T). In some people, this distance is too long, and can result in fainting (or even death). Sometimes this is hereditary, sometimes it is brought on by certain medications. (When you hear of other-wise healthy athletes collapsing during a game, this is sometimes the cause!). It is very scary. There is no treatment, and the patient needs to stop all athletics except a very short list (bowling, archery, etc.). Most likely your daughter does NOT have this condition - it is actually very rare, but it is worth asking about. I know our cardiologist repeatedly asked us about fainting spells.

I really think your daughter's issue is her low blood sugar, but definitely worth checking out all possibilities!

 

[MELSMICE]

I am no expert, but the way I understand it - the QT is the distance between two points of those waves you see on an EKG. (Between point Q and point T). In some people, this distance is too long, and can result in fainting (or even death). Sometimes this is hereditary, sometimes it is brought on by certain medications. (When you hear of other-wise healthy athletes collapsing during a game, this is sometimes the cause!). It is very scary. There is no treatment, and the patient needs to stop all athletics except a very short list (bowling, archery, etc.). Most likely your daughter does NOT have this condition - it is actually very rare, but it is worth asking about. I know our cardiologist repeatedly asked us about fainting spells.

I really think your daughter's issue is her low blood sugar, but definitely worth checking out all possibilities!

Thank you - I will ask about this.