DD classified as emotionally disturbed.

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It sounds so bad but it really is not, she has ADHD and her therapist wanted her evaluated for special ed services. During the evaluation i was told she could receive services as she falls into the emotionally disturbed catagory, she lack social skills etc. Any other parents dealing with this. I guess when i think emotionally disturbed i think crazy or something like that, but she is not.
 
Actually, she qualifies as a child with a disability for special education under the "other health impairment" category (§300.7 (c)(9)) if that makes you feel any better. She is not emotionally disturbed by special education legal definition or by our definition.

You're in good company here. New labels are hard. Be gentle with yourself. (((Hugs)))
 
My son has been classified emotionally disturbed for just about a year now. I know how hard that sounds and some place inside you get use to it. My son has full blown aspergers and has a real hard time dealing with just about anything not going his way. He is currently in a childrens psychiatric hospital because he tends to attack himself and others. This is a very hard thing to deal with .... its his first time and he will be 7 on Monday... Imagine what its like to tell your little boy that he will be in the hospital for your birthday. Anyway, I understand how you feel. Be very careful about the educational system they try to do things the cheapest way.. which may not be the best for your child. God bless. Eileen :worried: :cool2:
 
The system I teach in usually qualifies ADHD children under OHI ( other health impaired). This way the child may be served in any setting that will best meet their needs. If a child qualifies under EBD ( emotional behavior disorder) then services are limited to a BD resource program or a self contained EBD program. I would discuss the results with DD's therapist and see if he feels the services they are offering is what he had in mind or if you should push for OHI and have other programs available to you. :wave:
 

If the school hasn't already classified your DD as ED, I would be very cautious about letting them. I would push very strongly to classify her under OHI. Emotionally Disturbed is a classification that could follow hre later. Her records are confidential, but if she were to apply for the military (or possibly some government work), they can refuse to accept her with an ED classification. Even if she doesn't reveal her disability, they'll do a background check and have access to her records. The same stigma isn't attached to OHI.

Having said that, there are children who can only be served through an ED classification. I would just make sure your DD absolutely had no other choice.
 
D'AngelosdoDisney said:
My son has been classified emotionally disturbed for just about a year now. I know how hard that sounds and some place inside you get use to it. My son has full blown aspergers and has a real hard time dealing with just about anything not going his way. He is currently in a childrens psychiatric hospital because he tends to attack himself and others. This is a very hard thing to deal with .... its his first time and he will be 7 on Monday... Imagine what its like to tell your little boy that he will be in the hospital for your birthday. Anyway, I understand how you feel. Be very careful about the educational system they try to do things the cheapest way.. which may not be the best for your child. God bless. Eileen :worried: :cool2:

Hope all goes well with your little boy and I hope he has a good birthday anyway :grouphug:
 
D'AngelosdoDisney said:
My son has been classified emotionally disturbed for just about a year now. I know how hard that sounds and some place inside you get use to it. My son has full blown aspergers and has a real hard time dealing with just about anything not going his way. He is currently in a childrens psychiatric hospital because he tends to attack himself and others. This is a very hard thing to deal with .... its his first time and he will be 7 on Monday... Imagine what its like to tell your little boy that he will be in the hospital for your birthday. Anyway, I understand how you feel. Be very careful about the educational system they try to do things the cheapest way.. which may not be the best for your child. God bless. Eileen :worried: :cool2:

I want to send you and your son a hug as well :hug: . My brother used to live in Highland (I can't remember where...I only remember it was a basement apartment). I live further upstate, near Schenectady. I'm not going down the same road as you are (DS has NLD), but if you ever want to chat, please feel free to PM me. I know a little about New York State special education law (have taken a course in special education avocacy), and if I can be of any help, let me know.
 
HappyLawyer said:
It sounds so bad but it really is not, she has ADHD and her therapist wanted her evaluated for special ed services. During the evaluation i was told she could receive services as she falls into the emotionally disturbed catagory, she lack social skills etc. Any other parents dealing with this. I guess when i think emotionally disturbed i think crazy or something like that, but she is not.

Emotionally disturbed isn't the right classification for ADHD. I am surprised that they even used that term. I was just in my sons IEP and my understanding from the school was that emotionally disturbed is in a category by itself.
 
D'AngelosdoDisney said:
My son has been classified emotionally disturbed for just about a year now. I know how hard that sounds and some place inside you get use to it. My son has full blown aspergers and has a real hard time dealing with just about anything not going his way. He is currently in a childrens psychiatric hospital because he tends to attack himself and others. This is a very hard thing to deal with .... its his first time and he will be 7 on Monday... Imagine what its like to tell your little boy that he will be in the hospital for your birthday. Anyway, I understand how you feel. Be very careful about the educational system they try to do things the cheapest way.. which may not be the best for your child. God bless. Eileen :worried: :cool2:


:hug: I'm so sorry. This has got to be very hard for you. I had to admit my teenager to a psychiatric unit last year(twice) for suicidal threats and it was so very difficult to walk away. I hope he gets wonderful care and you can celebrate his birthday in fine fashion pixiedust:
 
D'AngelosdoDisney said:
My son has been classified emotionally disturbed for just about a year now. I know how hard that sounds and some place inside you get use to it. My son has full blown aspergers and has a real hard time dealing with just about anything not going his way. He is currently in a childrens psychiatric hospital because he tends to attack himself and others. This is a very hard thing to deal with .... its his first time and he will be 7 on Monday... Imagine what its like to tell your little boy that he will be in the hospital for your birthday. Anyway, I understand how you feel. Be very careful about the educational system they try to do things the cheapest way.. which may not be the best for your child. God bless. Eileen :worried: :cool2:



I taught ED/.BD for a few years while i was going to law school, and it's funny how different things sound when they apply to you or your famjily, as a teacher i am very understanding of the ed title and i know what it means and i know it is not a negative thing, but as a parent i don't know what is wrong with me, it is the same thing just applies to my dtr
 
nwdisgal said:
Emotionally disturbed isn't the right classification for ADHD. I am surprised that they even used that term. I was just in my sons IEP and my understanding from the school was that emotionally disturbed is in a category by itself.



I think everyone is confused, the emotionally disturbed has nothing to do with her ADHD.
 
I worked as both a school nurse and as a nurse in an inpatient child and adolescent Psych program (besides being a parent).
So, first of all, to D'AngelosdoDisney, pixie dust to your family and to the people caring for your son; msy they find things that help him to deal with what he is going thru.

And to everyone else, it seems like the "labels" should be pretty clear cut, but they are not. In some schools (at least in my experience with about 6 school districts over my adult lifetime), OHI is a catchall category for kids who don't fit somewhere else and is used mostly for children who need minor arrangements/adjustments or accomidation in just one area (things like severe allergies, ADD or ADHD for extra time). Depending on their program, the school may not have a lot of services available for kids in that qualification. So, it may be necessary to use another classification for children who need other services. I wanted my DD classified as OHI, but she would not have been able to get special edication services under that classification, so we had to go with another label.
I don't agree with the idea that schools try to do things the cheapest way (maybe some do, but I don't think that's the usual). From having been on the "school" side of the equation, I can see they have limited resources and have to figure out how to use them the best way. I have sat as a nurse in meetings where the team looked at different labels and how using them would impact the services - I've seen long discussions of whether a child would best be served as ED (Emotionally Disturbed), LD (Learning Disabled) or OHI. Most school people (most, not all) are trying to do the best they can with a very complex system.
There are individual people who don't want to change (We ran into a Principal who has a 2 story school and higher grades on the second floor. In our intake meeting when DD was entering 1st grade, he refused to put in an elevator (because it would be a budget area for him and he didn't want an elevator that "people could abuse".) He said that when my DD got to 3rd grade (the grade that started upstairs), she would have to switch schools, since he was not going to "penalize the other children" by not allowing them the "growing up step" of going upstairs. The district special education coordinator who was at the meeting took him out to talk to him privately 3 times. Finally, she gave up and told him "If this child comes to this school, you will do these things. They will be placed on the IEP and you will have to comply with that." If she had not been there, I would have gotten a much different (and much more negative) picture of the school district. For better or worse, we chose to go with a different school in the same district.

Here's a good article about OHI.
And a good resource with lots of links: www.pacer.org
 
I've also noticed what is in a childs IEP and what actually happens is 2 very different things. Make sure you child is getting everything that is in their IEP or they are prolly coming up short.

Those labels that are used mean very little actually but can effect the child for a lifetime.
 
dyna said:
I've also noticed what is in a childs IEP and what actually happens is 2 very different things. Make sure you child is getting everything that is in their IEP or they are prolly coming up short.

That isn't nessisarily true. It really depends on the school. The school my daughters go to the school does more then what is in their IEP. They also come up with new things to add to the IEP that I would never have thought of.

My older DD (she is 9 years old) she has had speech problems...they want to keep her in speech for a bit longer to deal with her R sounds....but we are Mainers so I think she just has a Maine R not a speech problem. But, by keeping her in speech they were able to change her IEP to give her help with her introverted personality. They changed her IEP so she is allowed to go up to the classroom and get herself settled before the rest of the class gets there. Which has really helped her become more out going.

My younger DD (she just turned 6 years old) is hyposensitive, has sound-symbol recognition issues, memory problems and speech problems. Her IEP states that she gets 1 hour of OT, 2 hours of speech and 3 hours of one on one reading help every week. It is very rare that she is only getting that. Sometimes if her OT has extra time she pulls my daughter out for more OT same with the speech therapist and the special ed reading person. The school even had the Central Office buy my daughter a special reading program that they think will help her, she is the only kid in the city useing this program. That wasn't in her IEP, it was that she just got one on one reading services.

I guess what I am trying to say is don't paint all schools with the same brush. Some schools go way out of their way to help their students and I am proud to be part of one of those schools, so I am very senctive when someone makes a broad generazation when it comes to schools doing everything on the IEP.
 
TandyR said:
I guess what I am trying to say is don't paint all schools with the same brush. Some schools go way out of their way to help their students and I am proud to be part of one of those schools, so I am very senctive when someone makes a broad generazation when it comes to schools doing everything on the IEP.
::yes::
Totally agree.
One of the problems I've seen is that some people are good at writing IEPs and some are not. Sometime the "original writer" knows exactly what they meant by what was written in the IEP and the IEP "works" when they are the person following it. But, once the child moves to a different level/classroom, that IEP might mean something else to the next person who needs to follow it. They may be doing what they think the IEP says, but it's not the same as what the original writer did. There is a lot of room for gray area in most IEPS and that area is where there are often problems.
 
i agree, while doing my masters in special ed we had an entire class devoted on how to write a lesson plan, we had none on how to develop an IEP, it seems like many schools leaves it as trial and error
 
Hi all, sorry I havent gotten back to you but, as you can imagine, its been some week. Giorgio made it through his birthday ... not without major meltdowns as you could imagine. He seems to be adjusting to his new meds although they are still not helping his violent behavior. He punched someone in the face yesterday. He is great when either my husband or myself is there. He does talk about going home and tends to get stuck on this while we are there... of course this is part of his problem. The school district is still giving me a hard time and want to send him to boces... ie.. dump him! We are waiting for his social worker and the psychologist to get together to make a recommendation before we ask for a cse meeting. I am so attempting to deal with the reality of all of this... and what the future brings for my little boy... He is wonderful and cute and smart ............ and so sick.. I need so help dealing with this.. its so hard. I just needed to vent and thanks for listening.. Eileen :scared: :crazy2: :eek: :sick:
 
D'AngelosdoDisney said:
Hi all, sorry I havent gotten back to you but, as you can imagine, its been some week. Giorgio made it through his birthday ... not without major meltdowns as you could imagine. He seems to be adjusting to his new meds although they are still not helping his violent behavior. He punched someone in the face yesterday. He is great when either my husband or myself is there. He does talk about going home and tends to get stuck on this while we are there... of course this is part of his problem. The school district is still giving me a hard time and want to send him to boces... ie.. dump him! We are waiting for his social worker and the psychologist to get together to make a recommendation before we ask for a cse meeting. I am so attempting to deal with the reality of all of this... and what the future brings for my little boy... He is wonderful and cute and smart ............ and so sick.. I need so help dealing with this.. its so hard. I just needed to vent and thanks for listening.. Eileen :scared: :crazy2: :eek: :sick:[/QUOTE



being a former ed/bd teacher, i understand or i can understand how the school might want to place him elsewhere, but here is the thing, there is a big difference in placing a child in a school that services his needs as opposed to a school that just does not want to be bothered with behaviors. All i can suggest is keep an open mind and keep in mind the benefit of your child's safety and the safety of others, if he is violent and can cause harms, perhaps that might not be the right setting for him, i cannot speak for the school as i do not know the relationship you have with them, i can only hope that they just don't want to be bothered... But we are here to support you, your extended family, keep your head up
 












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