DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

[keishashadow]

It requires connecting/reconnecting for a pre-registration call and discussing needs.

Ok, thanks for that. I misunderstood the posts here, thot they were saying it was a just ask & you will receive as a courtesy, no interview as to “why” involved, as the 1st park already did that portion of the process.

Should one assume if using a regular multi day tix @ DL, there is no chance it would then extend to a WDW trip less than a month away?

Guess my Q should be does this “courtesy” only applies to guests who have a Magic Key/AP at both parks. Would make it difficult for those @ DL, as not selling Magic Key at this point as I understand it.

 

[Keladry84]

My grandson is autistic and loves buzz light year ride and people mover. Lately, he’s very sensitive to MK vibe and all the sights/sounds associated with tomorrow land.
The last trip to WDW, we tried to get on buzz ride two days…. we get halfway down Main Street and we have to exit… sensory overload. He’s torn because he loves the ride but we can’t make to tomorrow land. The struggle is real but we expose him to the challenge because it’s progress when we overcome the sensory issues.
I’m thankful to Disney for offering DAS (no charge) because we make progress every trip.
If you watched the movie .. accountant and remember the scene where the autistic boy loses the last puzzle piece … that’s spot on meltdown that’s real. Batteries going dead in an electronic device can trigger a melt down.

I feel for your grandson because I know what it is like to not be able to do something that you want to due to sensory issues.

Right now I am at work (school teacher) and had to leave a mandatory all-district speaker/presentation because they have the mic volumes turned up so high. I tried 3 times to enter/attend over the course of an hour and now am so over-stimulated that I gave up completely. I walked out right in front of my admin :/ Worse, in 1.5 hours we have back to school night where I will have to interact constantly with multiple people I don't know (parents/students) for 3 hours.....something that is challenging for me even when starting out fresh. I have nothing in the bucket left for tonight. I'm frustrated and mad because my school district could have easily made the required-to-attend event more accessible just by turning down the mic volume and not blaring unnecessary music constantly.......sorry for the slightly off-topic-ness...I just needed to vent because I know what it is like to be cut off from things you want to do (or in this case are required to do....)

 

[lanejudy]

Ok, thanks for that. I misunderstood the posts here, thot they were saying it was a just ask & you will receive as a courtesy, no interview as to “why” involved, as the 1st park already did that portion of the process.

Should one assume if using a regular multi day tix @ DL, there is no chance it would then extend to a WDW trip less than a month away?

Guess my Q should be does this “courtesy” only applies to guests who have a Magic Key/AP at both parks. Would make it difficult for those @ DL, as not selling Magic Key at this point as I understand it.

I don't think anybody should expect that a DAS issued on one coast will automatically "transfer" to the other coast. If someone has DAS valid for overlapping dates it is quite possible the registration interview for the 2nd location may not be as involved because there was already discussion at the 1st location and a valid DAS. I'd find it unusual if someone was approved at WDW and then during registration for DL the individual wouldn't mention they are currently approved at WDW.

I can't say it's limited to those with MK/AP though it is much more likely that someone with an MK or AP could have DAS valid for overlapping dates. It's much less likely for day-tickets at either/both locations to be overlapping DAS. I also think it's relatively few guests who would have a situation of going to parks on both coasts with a relatively short period of time.

 

[keishashadow]

I don't think anybody should expect that a DAS issued on one coast will automatically "transfer" to the other coast

Absolutely agree. I was speaking as to those who said they were told they were qualified for both parks when the websites said “nope”.

I don’t begrudge their good fortune, just questioned why it would apply to some & not all in that sort of quick return/instance to another park

I also think it's relatively few guests who would have a situation of going to parks on both coasts with a relatively short period of time.

Again, agree. A perfect storm for us! We just so happened to take advantage of a tix promo, lots of points on hand for flights and very reasonable hotel rates; allowing us to be at the 1st (& 2nd) Oogie Boogie parties.

 

[nalababybear]

I don't think anybody should expect that a DAS issued on one coast will automatically "transfer" to the other coast. If someone has DAS valid for overlapping dates it is quite possible the registration interview for the 2nd location may not be as involved because there was already discussion at the 1st location and a valid DAS. I'd find it unusual if someone was approved at WDW and then during registration for DL the individual wouldn't mention they are currently approved at WDW.

I can't say it's limited to those with MK/AP though it is much more likely that someone with an MK or AP could have DAS valid for overlapping dates. It's much less likely for day-tickets at either/both locations to be overlapping DAS. I also think it's relatively few guests who would have a situation of going to parks on both coasts with a relatively short period of time.

The interesting part from the DLR side of the house is our seasonal tickets like the SoCal tickets can span Jan-Jun; so approval DAS for that duration of ticket can easily crossover to a spring break WDW trip -- ask us how we know

It would be very nice to have a standard reciprocity of approval for all stakeholders.

ETA: it does require a call, so would treat it like a CM ride entrance encounter with a need. State that you have a current DAS approval at the other park and how to proceed and let the CM guide you through the options/process

 

[OurBigTrip]

I don’t feel like quoting people and don’t like being accused of things. Others have said above why one may not be able to attempt standby but would be fine in the ll lane. And to the person who is trying to say people wi the heat issues shouldn’t go to Disney in the summer and the people liking that post, please try to step into those peoples shoes a minute before relegating us to our home. Telling someone to stay home because of a disability that a business is required by ADA to accommodate (not necessarily by DAS but in some manner) is unkind. Why should I have to sit at home bored for SIX months of the year? That’s not good for my mental health. Granted I do have to avoid parks for the very hottest part of the summer as no amount of accommodations will help me. The spoons analogy applies to heat issues as well. It’s completely valid that a person can manage navigating between air conditioned places safely and need accommodations for lines in the heat- and by law Disney must accommodate such needs in some manner. For myself, I am clothed appropriately with a fan. I can get from place to place ok by staying in the shade when possible- the breeze from being on the move in my electric chair gives me enough airflow to stay in the safe zone. Being mostly stationary in the sun more than 10mn or sometimes less depending on my current symptoms is a no-go for about half the year. That’s why yes I legitimately can go to the park safely (except July-August) and enjoy things and no I cannot attempt to wait in outdoor queues. I should not be told to stay home when the weather is so hot I need accommodations. It’s so hot here so long I’d only be able to use my pass late October-March. So let’s please stop assuming we know best and putting out blanket statements of if a person has xxx then they should not go. Every person and their abilities and needs are unique and it’s not up to us to tell someone they should not attempt something.

Reasonable accommodation, that’s Disney’s legal requirement, and then only if it doesn’t also negatively impact operations.

Accommodating one person with heat issues is very different that accommodating hundreds with heat issues and three of the companions.

 

[only hope]

Reasonable accommodation, that’s Disney’s legal requirement, and then only if it doesn’t also negatively impact operations.

Accommodating one person with heat issues is very different that accommodating hundreds with heat issues and three of the companions.

I know but people here are saying people with heat issues or issues that prevent them from attempting standby should stay home and not have accommodations. That would be illegal on Disney’s part. It is not right to tell people they should just sit at home or go somewhere else when they can safely access Disney with legally required accommodations. Also, the same could be said of ANY disability- accommodating one person with autism, or anxiety, or Down Syndrome, or IBS, or whatever, is is different than accommodating hundreds plus their three companions so not sure what that has to do with anything. ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated. I don’t know why people keep saying this type or that type should not be accommodated. That’s not an option for Disney and telling people their disability shouldn’t be accommodated isn’t appropriate.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

I know but people here are saying people with heat issues or issues that prevent them from attempting standby should stay home and not have accommodations. That would be illegal on Disney’s part. It is not right to tell people they should just sit at home or go somewhere else when they can safely access Disney with legally required accommodations. Also, the same could be said of ANY disability- accommodating one person with autism, or anxiety, or Down Syndrome, or IBS, or whatever, is ks different than accommodating hundreds plus their three companions so not sure what that has to do with anything. ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated. I don’t know why people keep saying this type or that type should not be accommodated. That’s not an option for Disney and telling people their disability shouldn’t be accommodated isn’t appropriate.

What specifically do you think are Disney’s legal accommodation requirements. What are you looking for?

By the way, the numbers are not likely hundreds, but many thousands.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

I know but people here are saying people with heat issues or issues that prevent them from attempting standby should stay home and not have accommodations. That would be illegal on Disney’s part. It is not right to tell people they should just sit at home or go somewhere else when they can safely access Disney with legally required accommodations. Also, the same could be said of ANY disability- accommodating one person with autism, or anxiety, or Down Syndrome, or IBS, or whatever, is ks different than accommodating hundreds plus their three companions so not sure what that has to do with anything. ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated. I don’t know why people keep saying this type or that type should not be accommodated. That’s not an option for Disney and telling people their disability shouldn’t be accommodated isn’t appropriate.

It is not reasonable to think that Disney can somehow control the weather, especially when there are lots of situations where a guest would have to be outside for some amount of time (think getting from the parking lot to security, and then through the main entrance, let alone to a ride - that’s easily 20 minutes right there with no reliable access to shade or AC, whereas many outdoor Disney lines have some form of fans or shade in places).

No one is saying that someone has to go home. The point is that guests with heat sensitivities already have to find ways to tolerate the heat, and the same strategies can also be applied to ENTERING a standby line.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

It’s very easy to paint a “what about” or “my needs are so great” scenario. But bottom line is that Disney has decided what it feels DAS should be reserved for (apparently the bar seems to be for guests who will have problems at every line, every time) and what can be accommodated in other forms. As guests we can either accept it and make do with what Disney is offering or take our vacation money somewhere else. For as much as people like to imagine/pretend otherwise and yell at those who disagree, that’s really what it comes down to.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

Or put even more simply:

Not getting what you want does NOT mean that you are being discriminated against.

 

[only hope]

I’m bowing out, just keep going in circles. I have never said all needs must be accommodated by DAS, just that all must be accommodated somehow. And I explained earlier how it is perfectly valid that someone can use every tool at their disposal to manage heat intolerance inbetween air conditioned places and that can be successful but that does not mean that person can wait in any or all outdoor standby lines. The spoon theory applies here as well. People need to stop assuming things about disabilities and what type of disabilities need accommodations and what doesn’t.

 

[ShaneDJ]

ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated.

Does AQR (Attraction Queue Reentry) meet your definition of "reasonably accommodated"?

 

[OurBigTrip]

I know but people here are saying people with heat issues or issues that prevent them from attempting standby should stay home and not have accommodations. That would be illegal on Disney’s part. It is not right to tell people they should just sit at home or go somewhere else when they can safely access Disney with legally required accommodations. Also, the same could be said of ANY disability- accommodating one person with autism, or anxiety, or Down Syndrome, or IBS, or whatever, is is different than accommodating hundreds plus their three companions so not sure what that has to do with anything. ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated. I don’t know why people keep saying this type or that type should not be accommodated. That’s not an option for Disney and telling people their disability shouldn’t be accommodated isn’t appropriate.

Accommodations are not absolute - they have to be reasonable, which you seem to ignore.

 

[Jdavidm]

I feel for your grandson because I know what it is like to not be able to do something that you want to due to sensory issues.

Right now I am at work (school teacher) and had to leave a mandatory all-district speaker/presentation because they have the mic volumes turned up so high. I tried 3 times to enter/attend over the course of an hour and now am so over-stimulated that I gave up completely. I walked out right in front of my admin :/ Worse, in 1.5 hours we have back to school night where I will have to interact constantly with multiple people I don't know (parents/students) for 3 hours.....something that is challenging for me even when starting out fresh. I have nothing in the bucket left for tonight. I'm frustrated and mad because my school district could have easily made the required-to-attend event more accessible just by turning down the mic volume and not blaring unnecessary music constantly.......sorry for the slightly off-topic-ness...I just needed to vent because I know what it is like to be cut off from things you want to do (or in this case are required to do....)

Have you looked into loops earplugs? They help me bring jarring/too loud noises to a more reasonable level. Since discovering them I don’t leave my house without /at least/ having those in. I have additional noise reduction options but those are my bare minimum starting point. They’ve made a huge difference for me being able to tolerate sounds a bit better/longer. I know some people can’t tolerate anything in their ears but it might be something worth looking into if you can! They even sell them on Amazon now.

 

[jennab]

I know but people here are saying people with heat issues or issues that prevent them from attempting standby should stay home and not have accommodations. That would be illegal on Disney’s part. It is not right to tell people they should just sit at home or go somewhere else when they can safely access Disney with legally required accommodations. Also, the same could be said of ANY disability- accommodating one person with autism, or anxiety, or Down Syndrome, or IBS, or whatever, is is different than accommodating hundreds plus their three companions so not sure what that has to do with anything. ALL disabilities are required to be reasonably accommodated. I don’t know why people keep saying this type or that type should not be accommodated. That’s not an option for Disney and telling people their disability shouldn’t be accommodated isn’t appropriate.

No one is saying Disney shouldn’t accommodate people. They ARE accommodating people, but have decided that DAS is an accommodation for a specific set of issues and then other accommodations are available for other types of issues.

 

[jennab]

I’m bowing out, just keep going in circles. I have never said all needs must be accommodated by DAS, just that all must be accommodated somehow. And I explained earlier how it is perfectly valid that someone can use every tool at their disposal to manage heat intolerance inbetween air conditioned places and that can be successful but that does not mean that person can wait in any or all outdoor standby lines. The spoon theory applies here as well. People need to stop assuming things about disabilities and what type of disabilities need accommodations and what doesn’t.

One of the accommodations is for the heat intolerant person to wait elsewhere (in AC) and meet up with their party in standby at the merge point (go through the LL to meet up). Does that seem unreasonable to you?

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

Only Hope, I am trying to be friendly and respectful. You are trying to make a point here about accommodating guests with heat issues. I was asking that very question. Disney will not offer DAS because of the impact on slowing the standby lanes to a crawl, overuse of DAS and makes the LL lanes so long they are ineffective and it adversely impacts business operations. You appear to agree that you do not expect DAS. Then, what specifically is Disney legally required to provide for heat sensitivity? I am assuming you do not suggest eliminating all outdoor standby queues. Do you?

i think people are saying that Disney provides many other accommodations. Attraction Queue Re-Entry is the big alternative for rides, but it is one of many. There is a whole section on the Disney World website about accessing attraction queues.

 

[theMoreDisneytheBetter]

What specifically do you think are Disney’s legal accommodation requirements. What are you looking for?

By the way, the numbers are not likely hundreds, but many thousands.

Many thousands. The truth is that most people don’t tolerate heat and humidity all that well. I’m not surprised at all that Disney doesn’t think that heat sensitivity in and of itself would rise to the level that would justify a DAS 2.0 accommodation.

 

[Ms Bibbidi]

Some of the outdoor queues now have canopies, water misters and fans. That helps a whole lot.