DAS changes coming WDW May 20/ DL June 18, 2024

[jennab]

I have been defensive because of this quote
"accommodation that wasn’t necessary for many, if not the majority, of those who received it'
I don't think this is true and tried to give the example of our case.
But anyway there are bigger problems in the world so....

Add to that quote “ALL THE TIME”, which I think is partly true. Many people have legit disabilities and had DAS for “it may happen” scenarios. There were just too many people in that category.

 

[DiznyDiva]

Add to that quote “ALL THE TIME”, which I think is partly true. Many people have legit disabilities and had DAS for “it may happen” scenarios. There were just too many people in that category.

DAs was handed out for EVERYTHING.. defeating the purpose, with return lines often longer than standby .

The change is the result. Is it fair..subjective.. but it is reality. Next move is what to do about. Figure a way to keep enjoying Disney or spend your money elsewhere. Whether you should have to is not the point anymore.

The new problem is SO many people arguing about the problems of changes admit to NOT even actual applying yet themselves. Its arguing just for sake of arguing. They are working themselves in hissy fits over could , would or should without even trying.

No one has said don't try. They are just saying have back up plans that dont include spending days ragging on websites. Figure a way forward and take the advice that is freely and loving given. Or don't

Personal choice and responsibility.

 

[Belle1962]

Immune compromised here. What has worked for me: will sound over the top to most people but it helps to protect me.
1)stay up to date on vaccines (AND PLEASE NO ANTI VAXXER COMMENTS NEEDED. VACCINES ARE A PERSONAL CHOICE)
2. Mask at ALL times except when in your room. KN95s are now more freely available. I use a mask from the UK that captures particles as small as biological and chemical warfare. Their filter is British military.
3. Disposable gloves. You may see me and snicker but I am not touching anything thousands of others have. When the turnstiles wanted my finger scan I simply said I wasn’t comfortable placing my finger where thousands of others have and show my drivers license.
4.shopping? Use your gloves. Your signature required? Have someone else in your party sign.
5. Public transport? NO WAY!! Taxis (masked and gloves) or drive your vehicle.
6. I Lysol my entire room as soon as I arrive. EVERYTHING.
7. Disposable sheets and I bring my sleeping bag to put on top of the disposables.
8. Air purifier. I travel with it and use it in my hotel room.
9. Mobile order only then get your food boxed up and go to a quieter place outside the restaurant to eat. NO SIT DOWN/RESTAURANT DINING. You would have to unmask to eat and drink.

Again really over the top to most people but I have to adapt if I want to go out in the world (I use most of these at work also). I WANT to go to Disney so I adapt.

 

[jennab]

Immune compromised here. What has worked for me: will sound over the top to most people but it helps to protect me.
1)stay up to date on vaccines (AND PLEASE NO ANTI VAXXER COMMENTS NEEDED. VACCINES ARE A PERSONAL CHOICE)
2. Mask at ALL times except when in your room. KN95s are now more freely available. I use a mask from the UK that captures particles as small as biological and chemical warfare. Their filter is British military.
3. Disposable gloves. You may see me and snicker but I am not touching anything thousands of others have. When the turnstiles wanted my finger scan I simply said I wasn’t comfortable placing my finger where thousands of others have and show my drivers license.
4.shopping? Use your gloves. Your signature required? Have someone else in your party sign.
5. Public transport? NO WAY!! Taxis (masked and gloves) or drive your vehicle.
6. I Lysol my entire room as soon as I arrive. EVERYTHING.
7. Disposable sheets and I bring my sleeping bag to put on top of the disposables.
8. Air purifier. I travel with it and use it in my hotel room.
9. Mobile order only then get your food boxed up and go to a quieter place outside the restaurant to eat. NO SIT DOWN/RESTAURANT DINING. You would have to unmask to eat and drink.

Again really over the top to most people but I have to adapt if I want to go out in the world (I use most of these at work also). I WANT to go to Disney so I adapt.

These are great tips! Thanks for sharing!

 

[TwoMisfits]

Immune compromised here. What has worked for me: will sound over the top to most people but it helps to protect me.
1)stay up to date on vaccines (AND PLEASE NO ANTI VAXXER COMMENTS NEEDED. VACCINES ARE A PERSONAL CHOICE)
2. Mask at ALL times except when in your room. KN95s are now more freely available. I use a mask from the UK that captures particles as small as biological and chemical warfare. Their filter is British military.
3. Disposable gloves. You may see me and snicker but I am not touching anything thousands of others have. When the turnstiles wanted my finger scan I simply said I wasn’t comfortable placing my finger where thousands of others have and show my drivers license.
4.shopping? Use your gloves. Your signature required? Have someone else in your party sign.
5. Public transport? NO WAY!! Taxis (masked and gloves) or drive your vehicle.
6. I Lysol my entire room as soon as I arrive. EVERYTHING.
7. Disposable sheets and I bring my sleeping bag to put on top of the disposables.
8. Air purifier. I travel with it and use it in my hotel room.
9. Mobile order only then get your food boxed up and go to a quieter place outside the restaurant to eat. NO SIT DOWN/RESTAURANT DINING. You would have to unmask to eat and drink.

Again really over the top to most people but I have to adapt if I want to go out in the world (I use most of these at work also). I WANT to go to Disney so I adapt.

These are great tips...

I really want to highlight vaccines and no public transport to the greatest extent possible - two huge things that help you stay well on travel.

Something I do (so my hotel cleaning is way less) is to actually give the hotel my medical diagnosis in the hotel notes (and call the day prior) and ask for a deep cleaned room in a "quiet" area of the hotel. I've always been accommodated (I mean, I guess you wouldn't 100% know, but I've never had soiled sheets, a dirty kitchen - which I always get, trash in the trash, dirty floors, etc), and leave a nice tip for the action. I do not stay in Disney property, so this may not work onsite, but does work for the main hotel and timeshare chains.

 

[DiznyDiva]

For Kiddo, at DL, we use Tom Sawyer and the climbing area in DCA for calming and getting out excess energy. We use the drawing studio for re centering.. the sitting place behind the mattohorn to watch the ducks and get a quick snack. Mobile order and eat at Hungry bear(which is opening soon) or San Fran Tokyo. Watch the fireworks from Star Wars Land.. less crowded . And ride during parades and then leave and come back when everyone is leaving for dinner.

 

[North of Mouse]

Immune compromised here. What has worked for me: will sound over the top to most people but it helps to protect me.
1)stay up to date on vaccines (AND PLEASE NO ANTI VAXXER COMMENTS NEEDED. VACCINES ARE A PERSONAL CHOICE)
2. Mask at ALL times except when in your room. KN95s are now more freely available. I use a mask from the UK that captures particles as small as biological and chemical warfare. Their filter is British military.
3. Disposable gloves. You may see me and snicker but I am not touching anything thousands of others have. When the turnstiles wanted my finger scan I simply said I wasn’t comfortable placing my finger where thousands of others have and show my drivers license.
4.shopping? Use your gloves. Your signature required? Have someone else in your party sign.
5. Public transport? NO WAY!! Taxis (masked and gloves) or drive your vehicle.
6. I Lysol my entire room as soon as I arrive. EVERYTHING.
7. Disposable sheets and I bring my sleeping bag to put on top of the disposables.
8. Air purifier. I travel with it and use it in my hotel room.
9. Mobile order only then get your food boxed up and go to a quieter place outside the restaurant to eat. NO SIT DOWN/RESTAURANT DINING. You would have to unmask to eat and drink.

Again really over the top to most people but I have to adapt if I want to go out in the world (I use most of these at work also). I WANT to go to Disney so I adapt.

Wow, I totally admire you for being willing to protect this much and still be able to enjoy Disney. No way could I take all those precautions and have a relaxing vacation. I'm glad that it works for you and that's all that matters. We do vaccinate, keep our hands to ourselves as much as possible, wash and sanitize very often, and never touch our faces - no matter how much our nose itches lol, keep ourselves separated from the crowds as much as possible, then we just hope we don't catch Covid. We do have our own motorhome as we just aren't comfortable in hotel accommodations at any time. Knowing how to adapt - as you said - is the key for each of us. The best to you!

 

[jo-jo]

Immune compromised here. What has worked for me: will sound over the top to most people but it helps to protect me.
1)stay up to date on vaccines (AND PLEASE NO ANTI VAXXER COMMENTS NEEDED. VACCINES ARE A PERSONAL CHOICE)
2. Mask at ALL times except when in your room. KN95s are now more freely available. I use a mask from the UK that captures particles as small as biological and chemical warfare. Their filter is British military.
3. Disposable gloves. You may see me and snicker but I am not touching anything thousands of others have. When the turnstiles wanted my finger scan I simply said I wasn’t comfortable placing my finger where thousands of others have and show my drivers license.
4.shopping? Use your gloves. Your signature required? Have someone else in your party sign.
5. Public transport? NO WAY!! Taxis (masked and gloves) or drive your vehicle.
6. I Lysol my entire room as soon as I arrive. EVERYTHING.
7. Disposable sheets and I bring my sleeping bag to put on top of the disposables.
8. Air purifier. I travel with it and use it in my hotel room.
9. Mobile order only then get your food boxed up and go to a quieter place outside the restaurant to eat. NO SIT DOWN/RESTAURANT DINING. You would have to unmask to eat and drink.

Again really over the top to most people but I have to adapt if I want to go out in the world (I use most of these at work also). I WANT to go to Disney so I adapt.

What are your thoughts on hand sanitizers?

 

[nalababybear]

For Kiddo, at DL, we use Tom Sawyer and the climbing area in DCA for calming and getting out excess energy. We use the drawing studio for re centering.. the sitting place behind the mattohorn to watch the ducks and get a quick snack. Mobile order and eat at Hungry bear(which is opening soon) or San Fran Tokyo. Watch the fireworks from Star Wars Land.. less crowded . And ride during parades and then leave and come back when everyone is leaving for dinner.

We spent nearly an hour at the ducks dock earlier this week.

Swings is his recentering and.love that back access entrance to dca. It's so convenient from dvc vgc!.

 

[DiznyDiva]

We spent nearly an hour at the ducks dock earlier this week.

The duck docks is a favorite. Even with the other people , it is still very peaceful. Lots of baby ducks and people seem nice and always willing to share tables. We like to sit at the far end and just chill. It is really secluded sound wise.

The silly Swings? Kiddo and dad ride those, I have to not watch cause irrationally Im always worried it will break and fling them.. LOL

 

[Belle1962]

1. I also have them note “deep clean” on my reservations wherever I go.
2. After the first few times of going through all this rig-a-ma-roll it just becomes second nature and you don’t think anything of it. It’s a compromise I need to make.
3. Hand washing with soap and water is always best but I do use hand sanitizer. Especially between glove changes. (Your hands get sweaty in disposable gloves if they’re plastic-I now buy white cotton ones in bulk) hand washing before meals is an absolute must (for everyone).

 

[wakebord99]

This entire thread should be closed - it has devolved into the last 3 pages of aruging about a single use case. This isn't productive or helpful to anyone - especially those with a disability who are looking for assistance and guideance. @MoD1s

 

[nalababybear]

This entire thread should be closed - it has devolved into the last 3 pages of aruging about a single use case. This isn't productive or helpful to anyone - especially those with a disability who are looking for assistance and guideance. @MoD1s

What are seeking? Ask away

 

[johnsgrl]

It is not time. It is a breath or two. It is not next to people, they could be long gone and it hangs in the air or comes through a vent. It is not touching another person, but touching a handrail hours after the droplets landed there and then touching your mouth , nose or eyes. It is not length of time or proximity that causes the actual transmission. It is contact with the pathogen.

According to actual medical research that is wildly inaccurate, if you have real medical evidence you are citing then please list your citiations so we can all be informed, otherwise please refrain from fostering the spread of misinformation.
My citation is below:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8721651/

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

This entire thread should be closed - it has devolved into the last 3 pages of aruging about a single use case. This isn't productive or helpful to anyone - especially those with a disability who are looking for assistance and guideance. @MoD1s

One of the best ways (IMO) to circle back a conversation to where you want it to be might be asking questions or providing some information that you think could be productive or helpful for others to know. Is there something that you can think of that might fit that bill?

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For further commentary here the decision to close a thread is up to the mods, some threads do not follow the path of other threads where they get closed fast at the hint of whatever. If a thread has been deemed to be more a central one for a topic repeatedly asking for that to be closed because you personally don't like what is going on there defeats what the thread's given point is at that time and punishes everyone. I understand what you're referring to but that would just bring me back to my first point of you asking questions or providing information that can serve to circle the conversation back if you're that bothered by the present direction (or as the mods have mentioned opting to not follow the thread).

 

[Tatebeck]

It is not time. It is a breath or two. It is not next to people, they could be long gone and it hangs in the air or comes through a vent. It is not touching another person, but touching a handrail hours after the droplets landed there and then touching your mouth , nose or eyes. It is not length of time or proximity that causes the actual transmission. It is contact with the pathogen.

Healthcare professional here. While it is technically correct that contact with the pathogen is the ultimate cause of the disease transmission, proximity (in distance) and exposure time are the important variables that we can control that can lead to (or minimize) transmission. The closer you are to a sick person, and the longer you are near them, the higher the number of pathogens (individual viruses, bacteria, etc.) you get exposed to.

Most people do not get sick after being exposed to a single virus, bacteria, or other pathogen. We have immune systems that are constantly fighting off pathogens that we come into contact with. Everyone has a unique immune system and what may cause transmission in one person may not cause a transmission in another. Immunocompromised individuals have weaker immune systems and can get sick with less exposure than a person with a fully functional immune system.

That being said, I do not expect them to give DAS to immunocompromised guests. They would be heavily exposed to various pathogens in visiting a park with or without DAS. Disney is a crowded place.

 

[lanejudy]

This entire thread should be closed - it has devolved into the last 3 pages of aruging about a single use case. This isn't productive or helpful to anyone - especially those with a disability who are looking for assistance and guideance. @MoD1s

You are correct that the discussion yesterday was not productive for anyone. The moderators are volunteers and not online round the clock. By the time I got online last evening the discussion had already run its course and my thanks to the several regular posters who attempted to bring it back to focus.

I will again remind all posters that Disney has made their changes and decided what does or does not qualify for DAS. The opinions of those here doesn’t really matter because Disney has the final say. We prefer to keep this thread focused on experiences in-park with alternative accommodations as well as suggestions of things people can do to help themselves manage time in the parks.

 

[DiznyDiva]

You know another place to center and calm if with a child or one who needs it is the Grand California lobby, by the bug fireplace. There is also a tv with cartoon and little rocking chairs. Kiddo found the tv and rocking soothing enough to reengage after a time.

 

[disneyseniors]

Discussions of risk and especially “mitigating risk” have little practical significance for the immunocompromised individual facing down dangerous pathogens. For professionals who manage services they can talk about how in every 100 people maybe 25 will contract a disease in a certain environment. But for the individual who does contract the disease the risk is always 100%. A person does not get 25% of a disease. So, the only way to “manage the risk” for the individual is prevention; to use PPE, hazmat suits or avoid going to areas where those organisms are highly likely to be endemic to the physical environment, like crowded theme parks. Look to the likelihood of harm and the gravity of the harm. If the potential gravity of being ill is severe, the thing to manage is the likelihood of coming across the pathogen and that means full barrier protection or do not go to theme parks. By the way, I think people who are home bound or mostly so can still have a good life.

I agree. My husband and I don't have disabilities and we Always Got very sick while at WDW. Every trip with no exception. There is not way to keep pathogens away from the public. People sneeze all over, kids wipe their noses and onto rails, etc, people go to WDW fully knowing they are too sick to do it but do it anyway because they have already spent a lot of money, there are various reasons. One of us would get a fever chills, a cough, and fatigue a day or 2 before we left disney. We joked that we just expected to get sick when we went, but hoped that would not be the case. We did everything we could to avoid this such hand washing, being careful where we placed our hands, etc. and still got sick every time. We just knew that there was a good risk that one of us would get sick on our yearly trips to WDW, and we made the decision to go anyway. It was a choice.

 

[Flynn's Gal]

For non-immunocompromised people, do products like Airborne or Emergen-C actually help as a preventative? With the changes in DAS resulting in more standby line time, what are some ways to help lessen the chances of getting sick? Beside the obvious - hand washing/sanitizer, masks, limited touching surfaces, etc. What are things that can be done or taken before going to the parks?